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Games => Diablo (now with Diablo 4 Hype) => Topic started by: Pixie on February 19, 2021, 04:58:27 PM

Title: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 19, 2021, 04:58:27 PM
So D2. Remastered in full 4kHD. 3d/2d modes. PC/console. Cross-platform progression. Completely redone cinematics. 7.1 surround sound.

No changes to itemization/balance. Same 7 classes.

Who's hype?
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 19, 2021, 05:42:16 PM
Need fine print. Online only? Single player? Any/many quality of life improvements? Will it be an epic store exclusive as tony hawk was?

Iíve still got the original to do in mean time. May hype depending on details
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: mn4nu on February 19, 2021, 05:43:52 PM
They'd better have Isenhart's Case in the game :P
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 19, 2021, 05:49:00 PM
This video filled in a bit of knowledge and I like what I hear https://youtu.be/6uoveNeQIc4

You can do this old school or new bits. And they arenít pulling a Warcraft 3 on us
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 19, 2021, 06:10:05 PM
Need fine print. Online only? Single player? Any/many quality of life improvements? Will it be an epic store exclusive as tony hawk was?

Iíve still got the original to do in mean time. May hype depending on details

Cross-progression suggests online only, since it would require characters stored online.

Epic? I can't imagine it would be anything but battle.net exclusive?

Isenhart's Case - they already said no changes to itemization/balance. It'll be there. LOL
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 19, 2021, 06:21:57 PM
Yeah, more details in the coming days, but it sounds like they have some good people making decisions who have been talking to the community.  Also no microtransactions!

This was the tony hawk news last year https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/05/tony-hawks-pro-skater-epic-games-store-exclusive/
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Sssith on February 19, 2021, 06:23:51 PM
Green Breasts....

Pretty excited about this.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: mn4nu on February 19, 2021, 06:32:01 PM
Green Breasts....

Pretty excited about this.
LOL!
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Sssith on February 19, 2021, 06:40:16 PM
The official trailer.  Pretty pumped.  Also intrigued about the possibility of cross-play.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: syn on February 19, 2021, 07:02:22 PM
there's a conspicuous absence in the platform list, for a blizzard game.  >:(
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: syn on February 19, 2021, 07:09:26 PM
Any/many quality of life improvements?

"Shared Stash tab available to all characters on a single Battle.net account."

looks like a few other minor things but all else pales next to this one.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 19, 2021, 07:39:22 PM
Any/many quality of life improvements?

"Shared Stash tab available to all characters on a single Battle.net account."

looks like a few other minor things but all else pales next to this one.

10x10 stash is an improvement, but when you are used to storing thousands of things in atma...

Auto gold pickup you can optionally turn on is good
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 19, 2021, 07:39:36 PM
there's a conspicuous absence in the platform list, for a blizzard game.  >:(

PC, PS5, Xbox Series X, PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch

So... everything?
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: syn on February 19, 2021, 07:49:25 PM
if that definition of PC included mac, then yeah, but that's not what's listed on the blizzard page. i see "windows, nintendo, playstation, Xbox". blizzard used to be the rare exception that released games for mac and PC simultaneously. history, i guess.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 19, 2021, 08:05:06 PM
if that definition of PC included mac, then yeah, but that's not what's listed on the blizzard page. i see "windows, nintendo, playstation, Xbox". blizzard used to be the rare exception that released games for mac and PC simultaneously. history, i guess.

Oh. I kind of forget that mac even exists...
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 20, 2021, 03:06:20 AM
Blizzard would have put Mac .. Activision though ..
i wonder what the % is for gaming on mac these days? or with the whole M1 thing how much harder it is?

Also watching a longer video with Mr LlamaSC I hear that Single Player IS definitely there.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Drozz on February 20, 2021, 10:17:29 AM
The graphics in the trailer look so cool!
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Godji on February 20, 2021, 02:31:58 PM
While it does look like it is done with great respect for the original material, I don't know if replaying it would hold up to our rose-tinted-glass memories, but it sure is doing everything it should for me to want to find that answer by myself!
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 20, 2021, 03:01:08 PM
I think the upgrades and stuff will get a lot of us back, it will be interesting the longevity for everyone. How many get a new shiny and donít go back. How many get to an area of the game they were burnt out and remember why they stopped. Iím looking forward to it
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: mn4nu on February 20, 2021, 03:59:54 PM
I wonder how big the shared stash is.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Kasferatu on February 20, 2021, 07:03:38 PM
I think the upgrades and stuff will get a lot of us back, it will be interesting the longevity for everyone. How many get a new shiny and donít go back. How many get to an area of the game they were burnt out and remember why they stopped. Iím looking forward to it

I think you are on to something here.  I'm not sure I can slog through Act 3 again!

Still, it is surely inevitable I'll give this a try.  The Wirtadin needs to be reborn.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: maxbeedo on February 20, 2021, 09:09:34 PM
My Battle.net launcher specifically says for this "Not available on MacOS", so RIP us Mac users, especially after OS 10.15 2 years ago removed 32-bit app support, so there may never be a playable version of D2 on any Mac from late 2019 onward (without virtualization anyway).
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 21, 2021, 03:26:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfPRTJZHQw0&t=1019s very useful info here.

May be future other OS announcments later for MacOS, i'm guessing they want to gauge potential audience vs amount of work to do.

I enjoyed talk of bugs, that they would look over things and if things will disadvantage the player.  So if it something such as the andy quest bug will stay, but other existing bugs they didn't get around to they may look at fixing (not mentioned but I thought of the inferno bug).

You can play single player without internet connection which is great.  So for us who majority played offline single player then we can basically keep doing it, sounds like mod support, our muling programs etc but have better visuals/sound etc. 

lots of other info but hopefully someone might do a big dump of it all.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: TheNix on February 21, 2021, 04:36:15 PM
Looking forward to the with a mild sense of trepidation; didn't stop me from signing up for the alpha testing though!!  The pre-order prices look a little steep ($AU70 - $AU90), so I'll see how the chips land before committing myself.  No ladder runewords in SP (as yet) is a bit of a bummer as well.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 21, 2021, 05:50:48 PM
Yes starts $75 nz but probably will be worth it
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Orbert on February 22, 2021, 08:01:41 PM
The Blizzcon vids I've seen so far make this look and sound pretty groovy.  Same game running underneath, lovely new graphics on top, a few quality-of-life improvements (I like the auto-gold-pickup and also that it's optional so old-schoolers don't scream).  Shared stash makes sense, and was justified by the fact that everyone does it anyway with mule characters, might as well make it legit and simpler.  Single Player!!  At least I'm assuming that that's what "offline play" is.  One of the vids said that you log into Battle.net (probably just to verify your license blah blah blah) but then it just runs on your PC.  Or console.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Orbert on February 22, 2021, 08:16:15 PM
I did forget one thing, and it's actually not a small thing.  The girls are all kinda ugly now.  I know, diff'rent strokes and all that, but they all look they've been through Hell and back, and while maybe that's intentional, it's also kind of a bummer.

(https://i.imgur.com/i1VHY9p.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/i1VHY9p.jpg)

The original D2 girls were all hot in their own way.  I don't know if I'd consider any of these girls hot.  Yeah, that's sexist and horrible.  Sue me.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Dust on February 22, 2021, 11:42:35 PM
Nope, I think the new ones look badass.

As a sinholic, i'm especially pleased with the update...

[edit:] I will freely admit that that exact picture of the amazon makes her look like trump, but other shots I've seen look much better
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Silverthorn on February 23, 2021, 12:21:29 AM
I'm wondering if it supports ultrawide natively. That would be great with my monitor, but OTOH gives quite a tactical advantage. D3 does support it, so I guess it's possible.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 23, 2021, 05:28:24 AM
Yeah, the three female characters look awful, especially the amazon. Super disappointing...
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: syn on February 23, 2021, 07:14:06 AM
[edit:] I will freely admit that that exact picture of the amazon makes her look like trump, but other shots I've seen look much better

can't un-see that now. thanks Dust.  :o
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Orbert on February 23, 2021, 09:56:30 AM
They do look badass.  That's not the problem.  The originals were also badass yet still feminine and attractive each in their own way.

I know that there are exceptions, including within our own little community here, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of D2 players are hetero males, and if the whole goal of this remastering is "visual appeal" then why not go all-in?  I'm not talking about anime-level sexiness, but I would have thought they could do better than dudes with tits.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Sssith on February 23, 2021, 11:06:14 AM
The assassin disappoints a bit but meh.  Not that big a deal.  Not like we are going to see that level of detail often.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 23, 2021, 01:38:11 PM
I wonder how purple talos armour will be and how green the shako will look hehe
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Sssith on February 23, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
Shako...the condom helmet.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 23, 2021, 05:25:55 PM
They do look badass.  That's not the problem.  The originals were also badass yet still feminine and attractive each in their own way.

I know that there are exceptions, including within our own little community here, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of D2 players are hetero males, and if the whole goal of this remastering is "visual appeal" then why not go all-in?  I'm not talking about anime-level sexiness, but I would have thought they could do better than dudes with tits.

That's exactly it: they look like men with boobs. Everything about them is masculine. And I kind of suspect they just started with the same body model for everyone, scaled them to different sizes, and then just slapped tits on the female characters.

The faces are the worst, though. Especially Trumpazon.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Dust on February 23, 2021, 06:50:01 PM
I know that there are exceptions, including within our own little community here, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of D2 players are hetero males,

... or perhaps we're past that, and we can understand that gaming is for everyone, and that gaming audiences are far, far more diverse than they were 20 years ago?
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: mn4nu on February 23, 2021, 06:51:37 PM
Rumor has it they put Biden's face on Malah.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Timinator on February 23, 2021, 08:54:38 PM
I know that there are exceptions, including within our own little community here, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of D2 players are hetero males,

... or perhaps we're past that, and we can understand that gaming is for everyone, and that gaming audiences are far, far more diverse than they were 20 years ago?

Gaming in general yes. A 21 year old game, it will have changed but not as much.
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Pixie on February 23, 2021, 09:03:12 PM
we can understand that gaming is for everyone, and that gaming audiences are far, far more diverse than they were 20 years ago?

This is very, very true.

But I'm still disappointed in the ugly female characters. As a non-binary person who has quite a few female, gender-fluid, and non-binary gamer friends, I can say: almost none of us want to play ugly characters (I can think of one who does, in fact, revel in creating the ugliest characters possible in every game...). :P
Title: Re: Diablo 2: Resurrected
Post by: Kasferatu on February 24, 2021, 04:47:43 AM
As an ugly person I need to play characters I can relate to!

I'm seriousness though, I think the problem is not so much they don't look "sexy". It's that they barely look female. There's lots of examples of good looking females out the that don't conform to the classic sexy female body stereotype. But this is just plain bad 3d artwork.