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Title: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 05, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
So that's kinda different.  Every once in a while, colors change and things go batshit for a while.  Folks on the net have been whining about this season since before the season even started.  I don't care.  I think it's interesting that Blizzard continues to devote any resources at all to this game, and I'm grateful for whatever I can get.  And I'm amused at the reactions on the net, so that's a plus.  Yeah, it's silly and distracting, but I still gotta give them credit for trying out different things.

Anyway, I got a chance to check out that new DH set after the patch, and yeah, it's another "cruise around really fast and destroy everything" kinda build, but whatever, I kinda liked it and would like to see how far I can go with it.  I started a DH, and man she hit the 60's Slog hard.  Worst I've had in a while, it felt like absolutely torture.  Then at 67, she got a couple of great drops in short succession.  The Crossbow which cranks up Rapid Fire to insane levels (she happened to be using Rapid Fire at the time), Dawn which cuts your Vengeance cooldown by 2/3, and just for fun, an Obsidian Ring.  So the last few levels flew by, and the first drop once she made 70 was the Quiver which removes Rapid Fire cost.  Sure, why not?  I put together a pretty fun Rapid Fire build a few Seasons ago, and things seemed to be pointing that way for right now.  Second gem to drop was Legacy of Dreams, another piece which fit with the Rapid Fire build since there isn't a set for it.

I haven't even bothered finishing the Season Journey because honestly, I don't really care for the Shadow/Impale build.  At some point I'll end up finishing it anyway, so no biggie.  For now, I'm gonna keep cruising with the Rapid Fire.  By the time that tops out (I think last time things started getting really tough around 80 or 85), I should have at least one or two sets/builds to choose from.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on July 05, 2020, 07:56:43 PM
I went DH also, but I was planning to go DH before the new set came out and before I knew that Shadow would be the gift. My son ran tempest monk, and we reached 70 in about four and a half hours the first night. We don't do any of the other stuff to speed up the race to 70. We're just figuring out our builds and running bounties and such. The next day I finished chapter four, so I have all the pieces of the shadow set now. Torment 5 seems to be pretty easy, so I'll keep going up and looking for more pieces of the build suggested by Icy Veins. Eventually, I'll look at the leader board to see what others are running for DH. I'm looking forward to the GOD set when I find it. Outside of that, I'll try to reach GR100 this season and eventually, build a crusader. I'm looking forward to it, because the past few weeks have been pretty boring as far as D3.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on July 06, 2020, 01:16:41 PM
another DH, aiming for the new set. Will probably save haedrigs gift for a different class.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 06, 2020, 05:08:03 PM
Wait, you can do that?

How does that work?  You get the gifts, but don't open them?  Then open them later with the class you really want them for?
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on July 06, 2020, 08:09:05 PM
Yep, that's how it works. I did that last season when I found the last two pieces of the haedrigs set before I finished chapter four. So, I saved it for a different character, and it came up with that other character's class set.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 07, 2020, 11:00:08 AM
Cool, I'll have to remember that.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Silverthorn on July 08, 2020, 06:51:16 AM
It's totally amazing to me how fast you guys level etc. I assume you are using previously stashed loot and since you all have high-lvl chars that speeds stuff up? Or do you just play insane amounts of time?
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 08, 2020, 10:55:03 AM
You start with nothing at the beginning of a Season.  No gold, no stash.  To me, that's the main attraction.  I like building the character, and having to learn to use the items they find along the way.  It can also be frustrating, but that just makes the payoff that much sweeter.

Anyway, there are things you can do to help level up faster.  Around level 20 or so, you start seeing socketed items drop.  Put the biggest Ruby you have into your helm to increase XP.  A lot of people run the Skeleton King Bounty around then to get Leoric's Crown, which doubles the effect of the gem.  Remember to keep upgrading Rubies and keep putting the biggest one into your helm.

There's also the Leoric's Signet ring that adds +% to your XP gain.  If you get it, use it.

There are two sets that Haedrig can make for you that boost XP.  Use them.  Run Bounties for the gear and recipes.

I hang onto Leoric's Crown long after I'm finding helms that look better on paper, because the XP boost is worth it.  Same with the ring.  Sacrificing one or two slots is still worth it for the XP.

A lot of it is also just having played the game so much and knowing what kinds of things get you the most bang for your buck.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on July 08, 2020, 02:19:45 PM
And once you get the set gifts, things take off. With skill and gear inflation over the past few years, its easy to get the set pretty fast.  Nswhorse was speedrunning GRs in the mid 60s last night with the DH gift set and otherwise mediocre gear. Piles paragon levels on really fast.

edit: got a sash of knives for the GR70 primal. boo...  am really liking the DH dreadlands set, tho. speedy.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Silverthorn on July 09, 2020, 05:44:49 AM
Rrright. It sounds interesting, I'll try to find some playing time and start a character.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: hurtlocker on July 09, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Gears of Dreadlands is very powerful indeed. I have all normal Legs and weapons and missing one cube Item and I did a Gr 77 easily. (4 min)
I suspect I will break my own GR level (104) record this season easily. Fun!! 
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 10, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
I'm already itching to start another character.  My DH has a nice Rapid Fire build going, and I made her a nice M6 setup to get the GR 70 Primal.  Blind Faith (boring!) but I thought the 40% chance to blind on hit could be helpful for the Rapid Fire build.  It sure as heck doesn't proc 40% of the time.  Must be the dreaded proc coefficient messing things up.  I thought maybe the passive which slows things you hit might be interfering with it, so I switched that out temporarily to see, and nope, still definitely not seeing nearly 40% blind on hit.  But the basic stats (Vit, Dex) were still better than the helm she was using, so what the heck.

Anyway, after reaching GR 70 with both of those builds, there's a part of my brain that considers them "done" and wants to move on to something else.  Like, a different class.  Never did get to the DH Gears build, lol.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 10, 2020, 03:49:28 PM
That rainbow fire effect is pretty cool, though. :)
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on July 10, 2020, 06:19:27 PM
realized the '6 sets to gr55' wasn't a conquest this season. no good reason to have saved haedrig's gift after all. oh well. was able to get a 2min T10 rift with the dreadlands set, so it worked out. don't think i've ever gotten that conquest before. have the 3 conquests done, but need to figure out which set dungeon to do. not a fan of the DH options there.

i've tried using blind faith before but never have figured how to use the high blind rate to good effect.

edit: got the new pet. purely cosmetic but i really like the steampunk design of the set/pet.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on July 18, 2020, 12:25:24 PM
When I started with the DH this season, I got the Shadows set, and I enjoyed running it, but didn't take it past GR50. Once I acquired all the GOD pieces, I switched over, and have achieved GR70. I built another DH, because I wanted to switch between the two sets, but not necessarily just do that thing where you save the set up in the wardrobe. I am doing that with the main one with the GOD set, because I need to achieve the conquest for no set pieces on GR45, so I'm working on a LOD build for that. Mainly to reach the higher GR's, I just need to work on gear.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: hurtlocker on July 21, 2020, 05:38:14 PM
I saw a youtube video where the a guy leveled a toon from 1-70 in FIVE seconds just using a boatload of gold from bounties
and having the Custerian wrist guards in the cube.  I tried it with ONE bounty bag and went from 1-50 instantly, kind of cool and saves a
huge amount of time. 
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on July 21, 2020, 07:14:34 PM
lol, neat trick. will have to remember that.

got a couple GR100s with the dreadlands set. am now messing around with the new necro set.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 22, 2020, 09:45:06 AM
I'm wondering if different items have different drop rates, depending on character class.  Not class-specific things, like quivers mostly drop for Demon Hunters, phylacteries for Necromancers.  I mean "generic" items like rings or bracers that don't have any special properties tied a particular class.

I was playing my Savage Frenzy Barb, and it's all Primary skills, so naturally I'm trying to load up on things that boost Primary skills.  Depth Diggers are the pants the crank up your Primary skills, and for toughness I was thinking Wraps of Clarity.  Whenever you use a Primary skill, your damage is reduced for x seconds or something.  I gambled away thousands of Blood Shards trying to get some Wraps of Clarity, and didn't get them.  RNG is a bitch, yeah, but that seemed beyond.

So I switched to my Demon Hunter, who seems to get them pretty regularly, and figure I can reforge.  Three Wraps of Clarity in the first batch of Blood Shards.  But it's not a class-specific item, as far as I can tell.

RNG just being a bitch, or are some items "somewhat class-specific"?
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 22, 2020, 10:06:56 AM
Argh.  Nevermind.  It says "Demon Hunter Only" on the Wraps.  I just never saw it before, because I was using them with a Demon Hunter anyway.  I didn't realize that they're a class-specific item after all.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on July 22, 2020, 12:57:06 PM
You probably want mortick’s bracers and a ring of might, instead. The bracers will give all runes for berserker which includes 50% DR. The ring is the barb version of the elusive ring.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on July 23, 2020, 08:39:31 PM
I can't figure out this IK set dungeon. I heard it was the easiest. But I can't keep wrath of the berserker up, and I keep failing. Any tips? I'm going to go try the DH Marauders set dungeon and see if I can figure that one out.

Nevermind, I got it with Marauders. Just have to avoid the worms.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on July 25, 2020, 10:49:30 PM
Yay, I got guardian tonight. I started in February, and played the end of that season. Season 20, I was still trying to figure it out. This season, I am shooting for GR100, but feels good to get guardian. I thought I would have to spend much more time working on that. I think the season conquests were easier than last season. I still miss D2....
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on July 26, 2020, 07:11:58 AM
I can't figure out this IK set dungeon. I heard it was the easiest. But I can't keep wrath of the berserker up, and I keep failing. Any tips? I'm going to go try the DH Marauders set dungeon and see if I can figure that one out.

Nevermind, I got it with Marauders. Just have to avoid the worms.

for IK, one of the set bonuses is reduced CD for WotB based on mana spent. try putting ancient spear/boulder toss in a skill slot; burns all your mana in one hit and should generally make recasting WotB possible right off the bat. glad you got marauders, congrats on getting guardian!
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 30, 2020, 11:15:54 AM
I saw a youtube video where the a guy leveled a toon from 1-70 in FIVE seconds just using a boatload of gold from bounties
and having the Custerian Wrist Guards in the cube.  I tried it with ONE bounty bag and went from 1-50 instantly, kind of cool and saves a
huge amount of time. 

I tried that out, just for fun.  I know that the amount of XP needed for each level goes up each time, geometrically or exponentially or something, but I've got a WhirlyBarb that can rip through Bounties pretty quickly, so I saved up ten of the Large Horadric Chests (or whatever they're called), started a new Seasonable Wizard, put the Custerian Wrist guards on her, and had her open them all.

Yep, first one kicked her immediately to Level 50.  That's such a nice round number that I wonder if somehow they planned it that way.  But the XP curve must be really steep, because after the next nine chests, she was only at Level 55.  Still, it was a nice head start.

What I usually do, once I have my first Seasonal character up to GR 70 or whenever I'm getting itchy to start another character, is get a Gem of Ease up to 25 and stick it into the biggest, baddest weapon I have.  Then I give it to my newbie character and crank it to Torment VI.  It's fun because the first couple of kills literally give you several levels each.  At that point, you have your choice of waiting until all the banners go by, or just playing through them.  Sometimes I'll head back to town and just wait it out.  Go to the bathroom or get some coffee or something.  Anyway, that's what I did with my Wizard once she got to 55 by opening chests.  She's doing the Hydra thing, but Cold this time.  It's pretty fun.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on July 31, 2020, 10:59:56 PM
I decided to maybe go for a Stash Tab this time, since last time was easier than I thought it would be.  I figured I'd at least take a look.  I know that Mastering a Set Dungeon is always in there, and I've always hated Set Dungeons, but after running the Immortal King Set Dungeon last time and realizing how silly it was, I figured why not?  All I needed was to finish one to get Slayer, then I mastered it to get Champion, which is where I am now.  I'm gonna cheese out and just do 31 chests for Avarice, and Thrill should be simple with my Rapid Fire DH using Legacy of Dreams.  Yay.  Five chests so far.  I'll probably do ten more tomorrow.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on August 01, 2020, 09:24:23 AM
I decided to maybe go for a Stash Tab this time, since last time was easier than I thought it would be.  I figured I'd at least take a look.  I know that Mastering a Set Dungeon is always in there, and I've always hated Set Dungeons, but after running the Immortal King Set Dungeon last time and realizing how silly it was, I figured why not?  All I needed was to finish one to get Slayer, then I mastered it to get Champion, which is where I am now.  I'm gonna cheese out and just do 31 chests for Avarice, and Thrill should be simple with my Rapid Fire DH using Legacy of Dreams.  Yay.  Five chests so far.  I'll probably do ten more tomorrow.

avarice is easy with several DH (or barb) builds and a maxed boon of the hoarder gem, if you'd rather go that route. go to one of the dungeons in A5 with all the scarabs and you'll get it pretty quickly. and then you can use the lvl50 gem to augment something and get that checked off the list as well.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
Part of the problem is that I don't really understand Avarice. I thought it had to be all at once. I saw some stuff on Reddit about how you have to make sure you unequip your pet, open all the chests without moving, then scoop it all up at once. If you're running an area, obviously that's not all at once. So what is the rule?
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: syn on August 01, 2020, 01:50:10 PM
watch the gold counter in the lower right corner of the screen. i think it times out after 5 seconds? if you keep picking up gold in that time frame then it'll keep going up. once it gets to 50M, you've got the conquest. think of it like a gold version of the monster kill massacre bonus. that is why a maxed BotH with the 100% gold drop from monster kills is nice to use. the act 5 dungeons are great due to the zillion scarabs that come out of the walls. if you use a build that moves/kills fast at the same time (barb WW, dh strafe), it's really easy. i used the dreadlands set (with goldskin/goldwrap/royal ring/emerald in the helm) this season. the belt is not to be overlooked, you'll have stretches with toughness over a trillion. good to run through and open all the doors and pull all the scarabs out, then circle back to kill everything. can easily get 100M+ streaks at t13 with that. also easy with wrath of the wastes. i've used dh UE and shadow sets in the past, but it's nicer to move/kill at the same time.

edit: make sure you're comfortably safe, though. It's a partial nerf to equip most of the gold find gear and i've lost a few characters this way from being overconfident in the past. that's why i recommend the belt. but dreadlands is very strong for this.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on August 01, 2020, 03:37:37 PM
For me, for avarice, I got it in one shot. I equipped boon of the hoarder and didn't change anything else. I did a T14 regular rift and got 50 million with no problem. It may have been lucky to get a cemetery map, but still it went really quick. I had my pet equipped, so that shot around getting all the gold drops, as I killed things.

For the two minute rift, I had to jump in with a public group and run a few times before it happened. You need one of the wide open maps. I was killing things faster with the dreadlands set, so once I saw the boss spawn, I tp'd back to town and waited until the rest of the party killed it. Then I hit Oren when the exclamation mark showed up.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2020, 07:45:45 PM
Thanks, I get it now.  Yeah, I've noticed the gold counter and how it resets after a certain amount of time with no gold picked up.  I can see how Boon of the Hoarder would be a reasonably simple way to get there.  Just gotta keep picking up up gold.

I'm up to 20-something gold chests now, though, so I'm gonna carry through with the 31 chests at this point.  But I might try Boon of the Hoarder next time.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on August 02, 2020, 09:47:40 AM
Three chests to go, I started thinking about logistics.  Stashing them all for now hasn't been a problem.  During Seasons, I tend to only keep stuff I know I'll be using on a build this season, or a Primal I need or have been thinking about using in a build some time.

Anyway, I looked and there are 30 spaces in your Inventory.  Three rows of ten.  You need to open 31 chests without moving, because if you start moving, you start picking them up.  Maybe you have to grab the last out of the Stash and pop it open really quick.  I have more research to do.

Worst case scenario: I just do it with Boon of the Hoarder after all.  I eventually would've run all these Bounties anyway.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on August 02, 2020, 09:53:14 AM
Speaking of Primals, my WhirlyBarb found this little beauty the other day:

(https://i.imgur.com/hauEfbw.jpg)

I've always used the Bul-Kathos swords for Whirling, but I saw something recently about this set, which in my mind is "the other set".  I can never remember the names.  More research.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Drozz on August 02, 2020, 05:03:32 PM
Nice drop! According to the whirlybarb build on icy veins, that has all the right rolls too. I'd love to have that for a whirlybarb, if I was using Istvan's. I usually use the Bul-Kathos, but that would probably convince me to go the other way.
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on August 02, 2020, 10:34:54 PM
30 Large Chests, ready to go, plus one more in the Stash.  I like how you get that "optical illusion" where it looks like the lines are slanted, but they're not.

(https://i.imgur.com/iODRTNU.jpg)

And then...

(https://i.imgur.com/bbz4yYy.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/bbz4yYy.jpg)
Title: Re: Season 21: Trials of Distraction
Post by: Orbert on August 03, 2020, 08:39:50 AM
So that was different.  In addition to all the gold, there were the crafting materials, Blood Shards, and enough shinies to fill my inventory three of four times while I took every single one of them over to Haedrig for recycling.  The Blood Shards also maxxed me out three or four times.  I think I got some decent shoulders for one of my characters.

All in all, it was more out of laziness than anything else.  I run Bounties anyway, might as well get something else out of it.  Next time I'll probably just do the Boon of the Hoarder method, but this was interesting.