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Title: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Reigns on August 13, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Other than fucking Star Wars I mean...
 ::)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 13, 2019, 05:14:37 PM
That Randy Pitchford is a complete A-Hole and that nobody should play Borderlands 3.  But that would also hurt ALL THE GOOD people who worked on the game.  Plus I like Borderlands and I am really looking forward to playing BL3.

SO SCREW YOU HATERS!

That completely has to be the most contentious thing going on right now.  What else could it be?

 :o
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on August 13, 2019, 05:24:50 PM
All the good people could go to companies that don't contain a complete A-Hole and use their talent there.  Its not like they are stuck in an arranged marriage and unable to get out of it.

Also Randy owns Duke Nukem and is basically sitting on the rights.  We need another Duke game, or sell them to someone else who can do something with them.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on August 13, 2019, 05:29:37 PM
Antonio Brown's helmet.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on August 13, 2019, 05:30:22 PM
I've seen all good people turn their heads each day, so satisfied.  I'm on my way.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 13, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
Antonio Brown's helmet.

*snort* 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 13, 2019, 06:51:50 PM
Randy Pitchford *is* an asshole but that's not why you shouldn't buy borderlands 3.

You shouldn't buy Borderlands 3 until it's on a store that isn't complete crap, full of spyware, and built on a policy of anti-consumer bullshit. :D
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on August 13, 2019, 07:10:57 PM
Imagine this, sometime in the 1800s a few things happened there, the British signed a treaty with the local Maori, and not related, certain lands were confiscated from the Maori at the time to be used by colonisers.  a family farmed the land for 150  years, then sold it, and it has been returned to the local Maori.

Those locals negotiated a deal with a large building company to build houses on the land.  40 of these house will be for the local tribe, the rest for private sale. 

A few people who are also the local Maori, but disagree with those that did the deal have occupied the land and are protesting.  No building is happening.  The protest has really gathered steam to the point its own community has taken off, prominent entertainers have turned up and its a bit self sustaining.  There have been other similar occupations of land in the past that have ended in different ways ..  This time everyone is being patient but no one is backing down.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/rnz/ihumatao-land-battle-timeline

One thing is some land confiscated, there is a process where the government talks to the tribers, tries to arrange a deal to compensate them.  Some of them have gotten millions, setup businesses and are using that money to help their communities.  Some of them fight amongst each other over who should do the talking.

When you have one lot who do a deal, then another who say, no thats not good enough, and want more, it could ruin the whole process and everyone who has had a deal will say "ok we want more now too".  Our Prime Minister (who I don't like) first said "I'm not getting involed", then "ok, nothing can happen till there is an agreement where everyone is happy" which helps the protesters. She won't go there though ..

There is a bunch of police who are at the sight making sure the protesters can be there, but not past a point.   

Also one of the locals was abusing a police officer as he looked to be an immigrant "Video has emerged of a protester at Ihumātao telling a police officer to go back to his own country - and she says she is not sorry for the tirade."  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/08/ihumatao-protest-video-shows-protester-racially-abusing-police-officer.html  Some of these protesters have endured a lot of racisim in their time, however they also believe that anything they do could never be racist to others .. wtf?

This will probably go on for months if not years, we will soon leave winter and some described being there as a "Maori Woodstock".  Just a lot of similar people united and supporting each other.

No easy answers
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on August 13, 2019, 07:13:28 PM
Randy Pitchford *is* an asshole but that's not why you shouldn't buy borderlands 3.

You shouldn't buy Borderlands 3 until it's on a store that isn't complete crap, full of spyware, and built on a policy of anti-consumer bullshit. :D

I'm going on both of those actually.  When its on a non shit store, I won't buy on Day 1. I'll wait till the game and all DLC with achievements has a decent discount.  Also part of my reasoning is I've had pre-sequel for a few years and I'm yet to push on.  I'm sure BL3 will be a game I play and complete *one day*.  But 2020 won't be that year.  I'm guessing maybe 2022.  Will be out of study, have cleared some other backlog including presequel and BL1 remastered.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 23, 2019, 09:24:22 AM
spiderman leaving the MCU...
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 23, 2019, 09:42:56 AM
spiderman leaving the MCU...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECfu6WIU8AE5Hp5?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on October 08, 2019, 08:31:14 PM
seems like a lot of organizations having trouble with HK/China these days. blizzard's joined the club.

Blizzard Entertainment Bans Esports Player After Pro-Hong Kong Comments (https://www.npr.org/2019/10/08/768245386/blizzard-entertainment-bans-esports-player-after-pro-hong-kong-comments?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwAR38_-CC4qjY5bRyhTuqs_IrKhmXqPaWXG7myt8OFHIYRIDty-bOcttHVmA)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on October 09, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
Fuck Blizzard and fuck companies that do this.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on October 09, 2019, 11:53:24 AM
I don't see how politics and gaming mix at all, but obviously some people feel very strongly about whatever the hell's going on over there.  Fine, ban him if he pissed you off, if he's saying things you don't like or agree with.  I really don't care.  But taking away the prize money he'd won is going too far.  They can cite the fine print all they want; it's still a fucked-up thing to do.  I have no idea how they would not realize what a horrible PR problem this would cause.

So people are (supposedly) uninstalling Blizzard games and swearing to never buy another Blizzard product.  Cool.  Vote with your wallet.  That's the American Way.  The only game I play is D3 and I've already paid for it, and Battle.net is still free, so every minute I play D3, I'm getting more for free.  If people bail, maybe that'll mean less lag for me.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on October 09, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
Interesting article about the NBA and this issue. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/business/nba-china-hong-kong-explainer/index.html
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on October 12, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
blizzard backed down (for the most part) (https://www.npr.org/2019/10/11/769362193/blizzard-entertainment-faces-public-backlash-following-esports-player-ban?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR04smpV5qgplwLbnfBp9K_6GYlKllw-RuE-Tc49nHRhXLVxI0ycmcsIkDY). seems like there was more of a backlash than they expected.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on October 13, 2019, 06:25:51 PM
If they didn't expect armageddon-level Internet backlash, they weren't paying attention.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on October 13, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
Probably advised by the diablo marketing team
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on October 14, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
Don't those guys have phones?
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Silverthorn on October 15, 2019, 01:38:08 AM
Yep
(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/vintage-old-telephone-binoculars-conceptual-260nw-151125308.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on January 29, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3ea060f607e674d082819e5ff33c38ea/tenor.gif?itemid=11491135)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 27, 2020, 07:00:51 AM
last night, a few miles away.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY_zweIXgAAlcCH?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 27, 2020, 07:04:14 AM
the above was a response to a protest after the police killed a man during an arrest (https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/minneapolis-police-fired-george-floyd-192604821.html) by taking a knee on his neck for 5 minutes.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/O3hxu87072XpZqLuaKBmhA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/_JRd5B8cpZFWklEpoHNa6g--~B/dz0wO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5ecd2456220000ef1b829644.png)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 27, 2020, 07:47:21 AM
It's been a bad run for Twin Cities police the last few years.  This killing, the Australian-American lady in 2017, the guy in his car in 2016...
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 27, 2020, 10:25:46 AM
All that is really sad. 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Silverthorn on May 27, 2020, 11:46:20 PM
It's the nonchalant way the cop keeps his hand in his pocket while kneeling on someone's neck that got me yesterday when seeing the video and now in this picture. It creeps me out.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 05:00:13 PM
Riots in Minneapolis for the second night last night. started again around 2pm this afternoon at several places in Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Bunch of businesses closing early and boarding up. We closed early today. Sitting in my backyard listening to a consistent stream of sirens. :(
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 28, 2020, 05:18:59 PM
I gotta say, I sure hope all this ends Amy Klobuchar's career as a big fat spotlight is shone on her prosecutorial record in Minneapolis and her refusal to prosecute cops... including Derick Chauvin himself.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 05:25:27 PM
Yeah that ship has sailed. 

Edit: she may be able to hold onto her senate seat but she’s done as a potential VP candidate.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 06:17:42 PM
It's the nonchalant way the cop keeps his hand in his pocket while kneeling on someone's neck that got me yesterday when seeing the video and now in this picture. It creeps me out.

Unlikely he’ll get away with the classic “I used deadly force because I was afraid for my life” defense, I suppose.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 10:43:50 PM
building on fire below is the 3rd precinct police station in south minneapolis. pic is from about 20 mins ago; UTD video shows it's gonna burn to the ground. no fire dept response due to the crowd. police withdrew.

(https://stmedia.stimg.co/1afirenew052920.PNG?auto=compress&crop=faces&dpr=1&w=638&h=425&fit=fill&fill=solid&fill-color=e8e8e8)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJznh6XYAEfWGK?format=jpg&name=small)


Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 10:44:23 AM
That is insane.

There needs to be accountability with all of our police forces.  Not sure this is going to help but I do understand the frustration.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 29, 2020, 01:12:01 PM
I see that the the cop who killed Floyd was arrested.  Why he wasn't arrested days ago is beyond me.  Now what are they going to do about the other 3 officers who did nothing to stop it? 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
All four of them are culpable in some form. 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 29, 2020, 01:36:48 PM
hennepin county attorney charged chauvin with murder and manslaughter. says his office is looking at charges for the other three as well but isn't ready to move on those yet. from his tone during the presser, seemed clear that something's on the way for them.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 29, 2020, 01:41:18 PM
3rd degree murder. That's a max of 25, but probably a lot less.  I call BS.

3rd degree is "without intent"... fuck that.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
I would like to see 2nd degree.  I think we will be lucky to get manslaughter.

Until there is consequence of this behavior this will not change.  There are many good cops doing a tough job out there.  But all cops should want this to stop and it won't until they as a group stop protecting cops that are out of control.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 29, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
If you have 1,000 good cops, and you have 10 bad cops, but the 1,000 good cops don't do anything about the 10 bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 02:53:44 PM
I am not going to argue that point.  They are a large obstacle to address this issue.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 29, 2020, 03:20:28 PM
Chauvin needs to have someone kneel on his neck for 9 minutes.