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Title: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 27, 2019, 05:22:39 PM
The teaser trailer is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkHNbsQMxPI

There is a lot of hidden info in this one.

It includes a golden key code c35tb-wsgst-txbrk-jjhgh - It supposedly unlocks more keys and a skin in BL2.

I can't wait for this game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 27, 2019, 05:57:11 PM
Lots of leaked info about this. Some neat stuff.

Melee-oriented Siren? Yes please.

Customizing guns? Sounds cool.
Other planets!
Multiple action skills instead of one! Woo!

Tiny Tina is 18 now. I fully expect them to sexualize her now, unfortunately.

Possibly Lilith gone bad? I'm not sure I believe that one.

"Count the sirens"... I count 4. Can we expect to meet the other two? Who knows.


The only thing that gives me heart palpitations is that I'm pretty sure this is gonna be Epic store exclusive, based on Randy Asshole Pitchford's twitter account, and that means I can't play it for a year after it releases.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 27, 2019, 07:26:56 PM
Because you refuse to get it there?

This might force me to do it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 27, 2019, 07:38:27 PM
I refuse to support their anti-consumer approach to PC gaming and their Chinese spyware launcher.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 27, 2019, 11:37:55 PM
I will wait for steam. Partly as I donít support epic. Partly with my study not going me time. Partly gaming pc wants to just die
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Darkness on March 28, 2019, 05:45:36 AM
Yeah I'll wait for a Steam release. I wonder how much the release via Epic will hurt the PC sales?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 28, 2019, 06:04:45 AM
Hard to say. But randy will compare console figures to previous and see a big drop off on pc for all those who donít think like sssith. A bunch of epic store users donít have steam. If you had borderlands on of before. Then you had steam I think
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 28, 2019, 10:16:55 AM
First, let's hope it is not an Epic exclusive.  I guess we will find out today.

There are not many games that I would be getting day 1.  Tomb Raider, Diablo, Borderlands, Mass Effect, Dragon Age might be it.  So waiting a year might not be the end of the world but I am really looking forward to this game.  On the positive side, I have enough gaming available to me on PS4 to catch up no to keep me going for a year.

On the Epic launcher side, we have this thread that is worth a read. https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/

The sad side of the equation is that many companies, not just Chinese ones, are doing nefarious things with your data.  It is really out of control what is going on.  I mainly work in the eCommerce space which is pretty bad.  But they are amateur hour when compared to Facebook, Google, MS.  Then you have all of the state-sponsored shit which is a different level of bad and intrusive.  US, Russia, China are all guilty in this space.  The problem with China is that it can dip its fingers into company business which erodes the trust of any Chinese company.  You only have to look at  Huwaei (https://www.zdnet.com/article/paranoia-will-destroy-you-why-chinese-tech-isnt-spying-on-us/) and Lenovo (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/lenovo-tumbles-after-report-about-alleged-chinese-spy-chips.html) to see the lack of trust that exists.

Honestly, it is to the point that I do not believe any company has our best interest at heart.  Just look to Google and the whole 'Do no evil.' (https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393) fiasco.

I think this is an interesting topic but one that ultimately does not belong here.  Can we spin this out to the lounge?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 28, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
Unsurprisingly it is official!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Gu1PspA3Y

Borderland 3 trailer.  No date as of yet.

Looks good.  Also looks like they did not stray far from the IP.

Of note 4k textures for free for BL2 and BL1.  I need to confirm it is for BL1 also.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 28, 2019, 04:23:20 PM
BL1 is getting a free GOTY upgrade, with a few other tweaks/improvements, such as a minimap and auto-pickup of items.

BL2/TPS upgrade also includes some nice graphics improvements like better AA and shadows. I'll probably reinstall it this weekend.

BL3 trailer was cool. Tiny Tina looks awesome... love her bunny ears. Wondering if the kid is Maya's kid. That ability of the new Siren was awesome. Want.

"More info on April 3" which is when I expect them to drop the Epic exclusive bombshell.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 28, 2019, 04:49:09 PM
I saw a tweet that seems to indicate that the BL1 fixes are not yet done but that the HD update for BL2 is April 3.

April 3rd is also, supposedly, when we will find out the launch date.  Which, presumably, will be when we will find out about the platform it is launching on.

I listened to the reveal today.  Pitchford actually spoke about steam in reference to another game and how they have a good relationship with Steam.  Didn't quite say it in those words so I am possibly reading too much into that.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 28, 2019, 05:31:54 PM
Ah cool. I didn't listen to it, partly because I was at work but mostly because Pitchford is a tool and I couldn't listen to him for an hour. lol

Here's hoping for a steam release... and soon. :D
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 29, 2019, 11:45:29 AM
He is a tool.  He did a magic trick for about twenty minutes as a promotion for the board game that his son is selling.

I am not clear if the BL1 remaster is available for everyone or just the people who buy the new package.  Does anyone have those details?

The BL3 trailer looks awesome.  If you want more of the same.  Which I do.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 29, 2019, 12:59:47 PM
If you own BL1 on Steam you will get an automatic upgrade to the GOTY edition with the new HD res.

https://www.pcgamer.com/borderlands-game-of-the-year-edition-is-coming-to-pc/

WOOOT!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 29, 2019, 04:31:40 PM
Release date 10.1.2019.

Or is it 1.10.2020?

lol

The numbers 10 then 1 appear in the teaser, so fans are jumping to that conclusion.  10.1.2019 would be the 10th anniversary for the first one so there might be something there.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 29, 2019, 05:09:31 PM
The top comment on the youtube trailer.

Quote
Goddamnit Valve! Do you see? THAT'S HOW YOU COUNT TO THREE
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 30, 2019, 04:38:21 PM
They are working on a prequel. So half life -1
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 30, 2019, 11:10:23 PM
Well I'll be damned.  It looks like your correct.  Just for VR though.  And for their headset it seems.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 31, 2019, 12:58:42 AM
Iím guessing optimised for be but will play in flat too.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 01, 2019, 02:52:45 PM
There is a deleted post that seems to indicate that BL3 will be on Epic.  Two more days to find out I guess.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 09:50:39 AM
Six-month Epic exclusive.  Frakk me.

Three versions that are buyable right not X-Box, PS4, PC on Epic.

Price points are 59.99 base :: 79.99 'Delux' ::  99.99 Super Delux <-- includes the season pass.

The release date is September 13th, 2019.  Release to Steam is April 2020.

The box art is a thing of Beauty.

(https://i1.wp.com/media.criticalhit.net//2019/04/PsychoJesus.jpg)

At this point I am left with the question of do I get it on PS4 or do I get it Steam 2020?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 09:53:01 AM
No price on this baby:

(https://progameguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/borderlands3-diamond-collectors-edition.jpg)

Edit: $250.  Yeah...no.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 10:00:24 AM
In the release date trailer, you get a little sense of the main characters action skills.  They look to have different flavors. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiEu23G4onM
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Kasferatu on April 03, 2019, 12:30:38 PM
I'll happily wait for the steam release. Will likely start to get cheaper by then too!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on April 03, 2019, 02:47:14 PM
September I won't have any uni, but a big nope for Epic.  So November 2020 or maybe December 2020 in Steam sale sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
I am more and more leaning to getting this on PS4.

I have a friend on the PS4 who wants to play it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Lego on April 03, 2019, 03:26:47 PM
PS4 online play isn't compatible with Xbox One, is it?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 04:11:05 PM
In the current game it is not.

No word in about cross-platform in BL3 yet.

And for those of you so inclined there is a petition to make the game available on Steam.

https://www.change.org/p/gamers-make-borderlands-3-available-on-steam
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on April 03, 2019, 04:19:16 PM
Pfft petitions wonít do anything. 2k/ gearbox has a wad of cash. Epic has an exclusive. They wonít budge
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 04:37:06 PM
Yeah...it's not changing.  But it takes two seconds to sign and express your distaste to what 2k has done.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 03, 2019, 06:05:02 PM
I earn points if you register with this: https://borderlands.com/en-US/vip/?_cts_=OG5292jz

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Darkness on April 04, 2019, 05:12:52 AM
I'll happily wait for the steam release. Will likely start to get cheaper by then too!

Same.
I did briefly look at the super mega collectors edition and decided that I'd probably just be filling my home with more tat.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Lego on April 06, 2019, 12:01:17 AM
BL3 may be P2W:


https://www.vg247.com/2019/04/03/borderlands-3-loot-drop-boost-deluxe-super-deluxe-collectors-edition-details/ (https://www.vg247.com/2019/04/03/borderlands-3-loot-drop-boost-deluxe-super-deluxe-collectors-edition-details/)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on April 06, 2019, 01:09:33 AM
Thatís not new for a bl game.  But no way in hell im interested in it.

At least you can play solo,coop so your gear vs other humans doesnít matter.

Bring on April 2020 and probably a few patches by then
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 06, 2019, 09:48:07 AM
I agree with Timmeh.  It doesn't really affect how I play the game and this is something that was done in previous games as well.

Right now I am back to playing Brick in BL1 with the upgraded visuals.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on April 06, 2019, 03:29:15 PM
Brick in bl1 is the most fun Iíve had in franchise by far
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on April 08, 2019, 04:30:07 AM
I see that "Borderlands GOTY Enhanced" is a seperate count to the old borderlands 1.  All achievments available to earn.  I think i'll get a new brick out one day! 
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 08, 2019, 09:45:09 AM
Brick is OP.  Fun but OP.  Not much can put me down.  My most difficult enemy are Turrets.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 01, 2019, 02:23:14 PM
I just saw some live gameplay from the new game and it looks freakin' amazing.  The way skill trees work and the interaction with the environment is changed and it looks like it was done well.  Time will tell but I'm pretty pumped.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on May 01, 2019, 04:20:35 PM
Too bad it won't be out for another year.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on May 01, 2019, 04:59:15 PM
I view the other thing as people paying for a beta test, not getting first go at finished product
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 01, 2019, 06:34:40 PM
Not sure I follow Timmeh.

I will get it on PS4 so I will be playing in September.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on May 01, 2019, 06:46:46 PM
Called trying to pretend we donít get a delayed release.. and steam version will be patched better than day1 epic
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 01, 2019, 07:49:56 PM
That's you trying to put a good spin on something shitty.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on May 01, 2019, 07:52:30 PM
I have a PS4 but... I can't even imagine playing a first-person shooter on console, so I have to wait for the Steam release.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 02, 2019, 09:52:25 AM
I get that.  I have a couple of friends who want to MP the game and they only have PS4.  Otherwise, I would be waiting with you.

So here are some of the things that are confirmed at this point.

-Gore is back. Death animations, blood and gore appears to be back at a level comparable to BL1
-We can now slide by hitting the crouch key while sprinting.
-We can now pull ourselves up ledges that are slightly too tall to jump up to.
-Not all quests or missions are initiated by an NPC. Some of these started automatically when locating a specific enemy, item, or location.
-Vehicles are far more customizable and can have their performance tuned. Some of these options appear to unlock by bringing a vehicle with the option on it to a catch a ride station.
-You can hijack enemy vehicles by mounting it and throwing out the driver
-Tediore weapons have numerous different effects on reload which are listed on their item card
-Atlas weapons appear to only home in on tagged targets if the bullet gets within a certain distance of the marked target.
-Dahl burst fire mode appears to variable determined on weapon spawn with the round burst count listed on the weapon card.
-Legendary item drops have a taller light marker and appear to play a chime when they drop. Also they appear to leave an icon on the mini map but not the main map in the echo menu.
-There is a function of sorts that allows you to claim items you may have missed so there is less worry about having the good loot fall off a cliff into oblivion.
-Customization options for action skills appear will vary for each character as the setting options for Zane and Amara were very different.
-CoV weapons appear to still utilize a clip of sorts along with overheating. It showed a bullet count that decreased with use but would regenerate when not being fired and when reaching zero there was an animation of removing a part of the weapon to reload it. Something different from when it overheated and actually caught fire.
-Instanced Loot mode will spawn items for each player at that playerís level and that each player can only see their own loot. There is also a sort of scaling for co-op so when a player much higher level joins the game they scale in some capacity to the level of the host though that player will see the enemies shown at their own level. They stated these features can be disabled by playing in classic mode.
-Environment appears to have more interaction now. Pieces of covering terrain can be broken. Puddles of oil can be ignited. Iím not sure if shock does extra bad things to enemies in water as I didnít see any streamers test it.
-SDU upgrades appear to be bought with normal cash like in BL1. It also appears Eridium is still in game as a currency but so hasnít been shown used to buy anything that Iíve seen so far.
-Eridium drops from powerful enemies, but you can also earn some by completing challenges.
-At long last thereís a ďrefill all ammoĒ option on vending machines and you donít have to actually enter the machineís menu to check out the Item of the Day.
-Torgue guns are no longer only explosive, they can come in other elements.
-Each character is confirmed to have three different Action Skills (one for each tree) and they can activate two of them simultaneously.
-ammo/health etc. auto-pickup also works with stuff in opened containers now
-If enemies have a weapon that is cool you can get it when you kill them.


If I find out more of this type of stuff are you guys even interested?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on May 02, 2019, 10:21:57 AM
I thought you wanted me to work on my assignment? Why are you asking me questions?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 02, 2019, 10:35:16 AM
You took the time to reply but not to answer?

GET BACK TO WORK SLACKER.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on May 04, 2019, 05:47:23 AM
I've gotten sucked back into Borderlands big time with the announcement of 3! I have only played on Xbox until recently (I bought Borderlands 1 for less than $10 the day before the GOTY edition released, so I could go the free upgrade).

How often does the Handsome Collection go on sale on Steam? I really don't want to play $60 for it, when it gets down to $15 on console.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on May 04, 2019, 04:04:23 PM
Recently handsome was 92% off I had only wanted 2 dlcs for presequel but was cheaper to get 50dlcs instead.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on May 04, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
Dang - I wish I had seen it then!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 05, 2019, 12:10:34 AM
The Handsome Collection is often available for 15.  I imagine it will hit that in the summer sale.

I played BL1 through normal on Brick.  I am now level 40 with Zero in TVHM.  I am trying to get through TVHM as quickly as possible.  The march to 72 is the tricky one.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Lego on May 06, 2019, 11:30:13 PM
I just can't support anything from this clown.


https://www.gamespot.com/articles/borderlands-3-gearbox-boss-calls-original-claptrap/1100-6466667/ (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/borderlands-3-gearbox-boss-calls-original-claptrap/1100-6466667/)

https://twitter.com/davideddings/status/1125565283924574208
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 06, 2019, 11:46:41 PM
Pitchford is an idiot.  No denying that.  That is two voice talents that they lost in BL3.  Sad.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on May 07, 2019, 11:20:10 PM
I just can't support anything from this clown.


https://www.gamespot.com/articles/borderlands-3-gearbox-boss-calls-original-claptrap/1100-6466667/ (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/borderlands-3-gearbox-boss-calls-original-claptrap/1100-6466667/)

https://twitter.com/davideddings/status/1125565283924574208

The more I hear about Pitchford, the less I like him.  Its almost as if he is taking on some of the personality defects of the main enemies in the game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 08, 2019, 01:40:04 PM
He has always been an amoral asshat.

An example of this is how Gearbox handled Alien Colonial Marines.  They got hired by Sega to make the game taking their money.  Gearbox immediately subcontracted the game to another developer because they were more focused on Borderlands 2.   After ignoring that game they then realize that the other developer screwed the pooch.  Gearbox tried to save the game but failed utterly.  But then they put together footage that made the game seem playable.  Yeah...Pitchford is a grade a tool.

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 10, 2019, 10:07:42 AM
NEW DLC!

Wooo.

Did I say new FREE DLC?!

WOOO HOOO!

Well, it is free until July 8th, so go getz it nowz.

https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2019-06-09-free-now-commander-lilith-dlc/
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on June 10, 2019, 01:43:55 PM
Ah shit. What was a perfect 100% game. Now need 6 more achievements
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 10, 2019, 01:56:48 PM
Awww....I feel bad for you.

NOT!

It is going to be GLORIOUS!

Can't wait to dust off my Maya and slam some new content!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on June 10, 2019, 02:29:30 PM
This https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/borderlands3/comments/byrcby/is_haderax_the_invincible_hard_me/

So if you have tonnes of the best gear, a highest level character and know the strategy, plus luck you can beat it

Cool story
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on June 10, 2019, 04:40:22 PM
Alas, Borderlands 3 doesn't exist, so I don't understand the appeal of a DLC that bridges the gap between BL2 and a game that isn't. :P :P :P
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 10, 2019, 05:15:06 PM
This https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/borderlands3/comments/byrcby/is_haderax_the_invincible_hard_me/

So if you have tonnes of the best gear, a highest level character and know the strategy, plus luck you can beat it

Cool story

Ah shit...really?  I hope this is not the case. 

Alas, Borderlands 3 doesn't exist, so I don't understand the appeal of a DLC that bridges the gap between BL2 and a game that isn't. :P :P :P

Duuuude....people are already playing BL3.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on June 10, 2019, 05:43:43 PM
Who is playing? Its not released on ANYTHING yet ..
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on June 10, 2019, 06:45:08 PM
Alas, Borderlands 3 doesn't exist, so I don't understand the appeal of a DLC that bridges the gap between BL2 and a game that isn't. :P :P :P

Duuuude....people are already playing BL3.

That's not even possible... ;)

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Lego on June 10, 2019, 06:55:37 PM
I just can't get myself fired up over the game coming from such an assclown of a person.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 11, 2019, 09:40:14 AM
Are you guys serious?  There are a bunch of people who have played the game.  It was available to play if you went to the last conference.  They were giving people 90 minutes slices of time on the game.  Then there are the 'influencers' who have had greater access.  They don't have copies of the game but they have played it and there are plenty of videos showing gameplay if you look for them. 

@Lego: Certainly a valid choice.  But you have already said this a couple of times.  Please make your own thread if that is what you want to discuss.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Lego on June 11, 2019, 01:55:51 PM
Yes Massa
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on June 11, 2019, 04:27:04 PM
Are you guys serious?  There are a bunch of people who have played the game.  It was available to play if you went to the last conference.  They were giving people 90 minutes slices of time on the game.  Then there are the 'influencers' who have had greater access.  They don't have copies of the game but they have played it and there are plenty of videos showing gameplay if you look for them. 

Well yes, preview stuff. Sorry, I thought you were saying people are playing the game on their own systems.

At any rate, my comment about it not existing had more to do with the fact that it doesn't "exist" until it's not an Epic exclusive, so not until like September 2020, iirc? ;)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 11, 2019, 04:33:37 PM
Well, I have been learning to play the game on PS4.  I have actually been surprised at how well it plays with a controller.

It does really blow that for the PC this is an Epic exclusive.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on June 11, 2019, 04:43:40 PM
Unfortunately, as much as I enjoy some PS4 games, I just can *NOT* aim well and fast enough with a controller to ever play a fast-paced shooter on console. I could only barely manage Horizon Zero Dawn thanks to it's generous aim assist and the skills that slow time and stuff.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on June 13, 2019, 05:55:14 PM

I thought you were saying people are playing the game on their own systems.


Yes this. 

Having a temporary dev build to build hype, or getting some people  a preview is standard stuff.  But if you don't physically go to a conference, or you aren't an influencer, then you can't play the game yet.  What they are doing might not even exist in the release build.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 09, 2019, 10:31:45 AM
https://borderlands.com/en-US/characters/

Full character descriptions are up with trees for you to explore the skills.  Very different skill management.

I think I will just start in game and do a WTF build before I worry too much about it.  Right now I think I am going to do Moze -> Fl4k -> Zane -> Amara.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 28, 2019, 02:20:39 PM
I imagine that I will be the only playing this come Sept 13, but I can't wait.  My first play through will be Moze > Fl4k > Zane > Amara.

For Moze I am planing a Splash Damage/Grenade build.
Moze Sez Shit Go b00m! (https://borderlands.com/en-US/characters/moze/#t=%22cb__2329045862___p__1064863104-5_1229408354-4_63742876-5_2146476666-5_696258140-5_598233776-3_3700797048-5_2549882825-3_4006882564-4_1200352344-3_4149007097-5_3500565755-1___e__407933920-2713847629_3735514608-3651798349_784347833-49859551_104895256-2332978918%22)

For Fl4k I am looking to do a Critical Based Build:
Crit for you, and you! Crits for EVERYONE! (https://borderlands.com/en-US/characters/fl4k/#t=%22cb__2015308718___p__2158073648-5_1740990601-3_3876256157-5_4171864922-1_2927115417-3_1474023286-3_1127977552-3_849309808-3_3320005682-2_572931884-5_1546991626-5_1401085196-3_4206164656-5_493978030-1_4262586319-1___e__1618958551-2811446764_52532438-447597971_2011892216-2744910560_772024924-2329546787%22)

That should keep me plenty busy in the beginning.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on August 28, 2019, 04:21:11 PM
you were going PS4 right?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 29, 2019, 09:42:43 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on August 29, 2019, 01:22:00 PM
I have no clue who I want to play as first. My initial thought was Moze, but her voice actor is just kinda 'meh' to me. It didn't seem to add anything. My next thought was Zane, and then Fl4K. I don't really enjoy kill skills, and I'm not a great sniper.

I haven't looked at the skill tree stuff yet, but a mech with a flamethrower attached seems pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 29, 2019, 05:11:25 PM
A flame thrower would bring you back to Moze. 

I haven't heard much of the voice acting but from what I have it goes Fl4k >> Zane > Moze > Amara.  But it such a small sample size that I doubt that will hold up.  In BL2 my least favorite voice acting was Maya, I found her flat and boring.  Still my favorite playing character.  Supposedly BL3 will have a lot more dialog.  That should be a good thing.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on August 30, 2019, 04:48:06 AM
https://www.techpowerup.com/img/T5HAdVH7tF9lDBOr.jpg

So I probably canít run it anyway
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 30, 2019, 09:48:18 AM
Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 10, 2019, 05:16:53 AM
First reviews are out. It sounds more of the same. If you are sssith youíll enjoy it. If you normally get bored, youíll get bored.

Also sounds buggy and some bits plain boring even with qol fixes
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 10, 2019, 09:57:18 AM
First reviews are out. It sounds more of the same. If you are sssith youíll enjoy it. If you normally get bored, youíll get bored.

Also sounds buggy and some bits plain boring even with qol fixes

meh

Pick the review best supports your view:

Seems pretty positive.  I am sure there are more negative ones out there. 

Source: https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2019/09/09/borderlands-3-review-round-up/
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 10, 2019, 04:41:49 PM
I didn't see any numbers mentioned.  I also saw the same number of reviews as gaming websites who were NOT allowed advance copy due to security (leak) worries.  Lots of companies, some European saying "you might be wondering where our Borderlands 3 review is?" then saying, we haven't been given access, 2K is choosing who gets and who doesn't get to help spread the hype.  That is weird and a bit of a worry.

But game reviews are only part of it.  The real reviews will come out in the next few days/weeks/months from real people.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 11, 2019, 08:12:04 AM
I'm still playing and enjoying the hell out of a game from 2012. I'll be ok if it's more of the same, with new Vault Hunters and new graphics.

I love the first two games for what they are - I don't need new ground breaking innovation for 3. I hate when games change what made them successful for a sequel.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 11, 2019, 09:50:38 AM
Agreed.  Which makes me excited about BL3 as everyone, it seems, is saying that it is a better version of BL2.  Life being what it is I have a project that I have worked over a year on going live either this week or next.  So I will probably get a slow start to the game but man am I itching to get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 11, 2019, 01:46:10 PM
Itís funny people forget this is actually number 4. Sure 2 got a new dlc but pre sequel was after 2
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 11, 2019, 03:05:02 PM
Pre-Sequel was based off the BL2 code.  So yes it was a full game but no it was not really a fully new game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 11, 2019, 03:30:13 PM
My local GameStop is having a 9:00pm EDT release tomorrow. I might have to stop over after work and grab it!

Also, a wheel spinner has decided that I'm going to start as Moze. She was the first to 10 spins. Zane and Fl4K were close, with 9 spins each, and Amara started quick with 3 in a row but only ended up with 7 total.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 11, 2019, 04:32:15 PM
I am planning Moze --> Fl4k --> Zane --> Amara.

Hopefully the game allows me to get through all four.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 12, 2019, 10:10:06 AM
Just found out that each planet in BL3 will have a different musical composer.  Listening to the different styles is pretty cool.

Eden 6: https://soundcloud.com/jesperkyd/exploring-the-dormant-ship
Promethea: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmccannmusic/act-i06-neon-arterial-upper-city
Pandora: https://soundcloud.com/finishing-move-inc/konrads-hold-arrival
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 13, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
woohoo, 6 months till the game is playable on PC!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 13, 2019, 09:59:00 AM
lol

Epic can suck my balls.

Played the game a bit last night.  Looks good.  Gunfights are more intense.  Now, this is literally only ten minutes of playing, so take that with a grain of salt.  Oh and claptrap is claptrap.

I am in the middle of a year-long project that is about to go live.  F* the timing of that.  I had long planned to take a day off today but I can't, and I might have to work the weekend.

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 13, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
I didn't have time to pick the game up last night, but I'm grabbing it today after work. Very excited to play! I have the weekend off, but may not get a ton of time during the day - darn kids!! I'll probably get 5-10 hours in this weekend after they're in bed, so that's nice!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 13, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
I got about an hour of play time in.
 
Yep...it is a Borderlands game.  I am liking the game play so far.  The visuals are taking a bit to get used to.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 14, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
Three hours in and I am now used to how the game looks.  So much richer than the last game.

How the guns handle in the game is pretty great.  Tough to nail down exactly what they did but handle so well.  And the physics behind how the enemies act when hit is awesome.  At this point I am about level 8 and enjoying the hell out of the game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on September 15, 2019, 07:41:36 AM
So I guess this game is a dumpster fire, eh? (https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/14/20865983/borderlands-3-pc-problems-stuttering-framerate-fps-dropping-steam-forums)

And maybe the PC version includes a keylogger in Denuvo. GG Pitchford!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 15, 2019, 03:24:12 PM
From my perspective the game is awesome.  So far it plays really well.  Guns are awesome.  Environments are great.  No complaints from me.  Very glad that I went with the PS4 version so far.  And I am enjoying the hell out of the game as it stands right now.

If you are going to play on PC it is probably better to wait.  I hear that the game has all sorts of PC problems, particularly on Dx12.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on September 15, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
If you are going to play on PC it is probably better to wait.  I hear that the game has all sorts of PC problems, particularly on Dx12.

From what I hear, the problems are cross-platform. /shrug/

But yeah, they got a good partner in the epic store... they can release a broken game on a store front that has no user reviews, feedback, or forums.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 16, 2019, 02:32:38 AM
Just stumbled on this. It works better Xbox vs ps4.

https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/15/20866998/borderlands-3-framerate-stutter-skip-ps4-pc-xbox-one-digital-foundry
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 16, 2019, 08:22:16 AM
I'm enjoying the game so far. It took a little bit to get used to aiming down sight, for some reason I was struggling to get the crosshairs on target.

I've gotten Moze to level 11, mainly going with the Bottomless Mags tree for now. I really wish the mech had longer uptime - getting a few seconds of use with a huge cool down kinda sucks.

I'm definitely enjoying the new physics in the game - having a psycho jump towards you and catching him with a shotgun blast that launches him back 20 feet is quite satisfying.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 16, 2019, 10:00:05 AM
I am having a great time with the game so far.  Super satisfying.  I have even done MP with a friend and it was great.  Fast paced fighting.  Not a single problem so far.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 16, 2019, 10:43:39 AM
I'm hoping to have a friend come over this weekend for some couch co-op. It should be good times! I like how the game scales so lower level characters can still play and find gear that's on level for them.

The only "problem" I've had has been some menus being a little slow to pull up initially, but it's not horrible. Only a couple seconds of delay on the first time loading up a menu.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 16, 2019, 11:14:44 AM
The MP game I was in the other guy was level 19 and I was 12.  He saw enemies that were level 17 and I saw them as 11.  It is actually very impressive how they pulled that off.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: dave in the basement on September 16, 2019, 02:43:40 PM
My son and my best friend both grabbed the game over the weekend and they are having a blast with it. My son started as Moze and I think he is level 15 at the moment.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 16, 2019, 02:46:18 PM
Good to hear. (See it is not just me that is enjoying the game.  :P )

I am also playing Moze and she has been pretty tough.  Still figuring out the build.  I am trying for a grenade/splash build.  So far it is viable.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Darkness on September 17, 2019, 05:06:55 AM
Roll on pre-release epic games beta test being done and for the actual PC release on steam!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 17, 2019, 08:03:56 AM
I don't know if I'm just imagining this or not, but enemies definitely feel more like bullet sponges than BL2. It feels like the heavy gunners just take ages to kill, and even regular enemies are taking entire clips of ammo to kill. I'll have a pack of guys around me, get in Iron Bear, and can only kill 4-5 normal enemies before my fuel runs out and I have to wait another 2 minutes for my cooldown.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 17, 2019, 09:17:08 AM
Borderlands has always been a bullet spongey game.  You might be right about it being more so.  I am finding that bear with grenade launcher is working better for me.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 17, 2019, 02:22:33 PM
Roll on pre-release epic games beta test being done and for the actual PC release on steam!
*Cookie given*
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 17, 2019, 05:19:28 PM
Played it a bit during lunch paying more attention to the spongeyness.  And yes it is more spongey for me too.  But I have heard that some people have builds/equipment that is OP at this point. So it might be a matter of getting better stuff.  The guy I have played with also seems to have an easier time of things than I do.  So it might also be that Amara > Fl4k > Zane > Moze.  Amara and Fl4k are the ones who people are claiming are OP.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 23, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
I am having an absolute blast with the game.  I think I am about 2/3 through the main story at this point.  I close to lvl 24 with Moze.

Story wise BL2 seems better at this point but that is mainly because of how epic Handsome Jack was a bad guy.  The story in this one is enjoyable enough.

Combat is really fun, though I do agree that they are very spongey.  No rabid skags and stalkers though, which is a good think in my book.  Holy cow I hated those things.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 23, 2019, 10:06:28 AM
I decided to start a new character, after not really enjoying Moze initially. I decided to go with Amara, and am having a good time of it. I got to level 14 yesterday, and have progressed further than I did with Moze. I've been mainly using the Brawl skill tree, but I think I'm going to swap over to the elemental tree soon, as I'm finally getting some decent weapons with elemental damage on them.

I'm definitely enjoying the game - just wish I had more time to play it!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 23, 2019, 10:50:41 AM
I get the bit about enough time.  I finally got some time in this weekend.

You'll need to find this weapon for your Siren...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFHRehhXsAEf4PP?format=jpg&name=large)

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on September 23, 2019, 11:05:58 AM
That's awesome - and I love the D2 reference!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 23, 2019, 09:43:33 PM
That is pretty cool.  Gotta get the game now!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 24, 2019, 05:59:24 AM
That is pretty cool.  Gotta get the game now!
wait till Steam release ..
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on September 27, 2019, 05:12:02 AM
The beta testers who paid to participate have a patch https://www.pcgamer.com/au/new-borderlands-3-patch-makes-killavolt-significantly-easier/

By the time of the actual release hopefully itís in a better state
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 27, 2019, 09:37:03 AM
Level 27 and rolling along.  Still having a good old time.  Supposedly I am about 2/3 through the first play through.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 30, 2019, 09:38:44 AM
I've hit level 35 I think.  About to go into one of the bigger boss fights on Eden-6.  I'm still enjoying the game and I finally got to meet Ice T's character.  Some pretty funny shit with that sequence.  I am a couple of levels away from getting the Demolition Capstone.  Then I can go back to Shield of Retribution tree. 
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 05, 2019, 02:15:06 PM
So I just got to the Pain and Terror boss fight.  Holy crap that is a frustrating fight.  I've now died about 10 tens.  Three times in the final stages of the fight, a bit frustrating.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 08, 2019, 11:46:58 AM
About to hit level 40 and I am not done with the first play through.  I think that is awesome.  It should be possible to be almost max level after one play through.  Then the second play through you are can be mostly focused on gearing up.  It seems the game also has a concept similar to paragon levels.  Not there yet and I am trying not to read to much about the game until I complete my first play through.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 09, 2019, 10:40:28 AM
Just played a mission that is an homage to Lord of the Rings.  I will not say more, other than I loved it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 16, 2019, 09:57:20 AM
Finished my first play through.  Overall the game is really good.  The missions as a whole are better and less annoying than BL2.  That said BL2 had more quirky memorable missions.  Guns are awesome in BL3, better than in the previous games.  Character builds seems to be a work in progress at this point.  The game is significantly bigger than any of the previous games.  I almost finished at max level through one play through.  I personally like that, though I imagine some people will prefer the old way.  The game has something like paragon levels once you get through the first play through.  And something called Mayhem Mode.  I haven't bothered to figure those out yet.

As for the story it is solid.  There is one thing, a big thing, that happened in the game that I did not like and I need to experience it again to better understand if it makes sense in the bigger picture.  Despite that I thought the story was really good.  That said nothing is going to compare to Handsome Jack as a main bad guy.  The new bad guys, The Twins, are good antagonists but they don't compare to Handsome Jack.  I don't see that as a fault of the game, rather it is acknowledging how good a bad guy Handsome Jack is.

Overall I think the game is a fun time and well worth playing.  Now I need to decide if I am going to try to max out Moze or if I am going to play through other characters.  Right now I am leaning toward a Fl4k play through.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 16, 2019, 03:59:52 PM
Screenshots from the game: https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/photo-mode-photos/3634499

Not mine. It contains spoilers.  Places you go, people you will meet, hints of things.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on October 17, 2019, 03:33:41 AM
Bl3 honest trailer https://youtu.be/unLxxWMy5v4
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on October 18, 2019, 10:23:01 AM
I got up to level 32 last night, and have been skipping a lot of side quests. I feel like I'm getting close to the end of the main story but I don't really know. I'm having a lot of fun though! I'll probably go back and do the side quests after, and before starting TVHM.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 18, 2019, 10:41:42 AM
The game is longer than you might expect.  Though I think that level is a more normal place for the story to end.  I started a Fl4k play through instead of going into TVHM.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 25, 2019, 10:53:20 AM
I am really liking my Fl4k character so far.  Maybe more so than Moze.  I love his blood thirsty attitude.  Skills seem good.

Also started the first first DLC event.  This one is free and for a limited time.  Halloween themed, and it will last until Dec 3rd.  So far it seems good enough.  I will finish it will Fl4k first and then I will do it with Moze.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on October 26, 2019, 02:54:53 PM
I blocked Forbes from popping up on my google news as it only had FOMO type "get this Borderlands3 code BEFORE IT DISAPPEARS! I saw it talk of something else you could get if you also log into fortnite.

I've seen the higher priced packs get a discount, but not the base game yet on humble store.

makes you wonder if the revenue split thing is so important when less than 6 weeks after release they are already accepting less money if it means more sales
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on October 28, 2019, 10:10:27 AM
I continue to play the game.  Already closing in on 100 hours.  I am about half way done with first play through with Fl4k.  I really like how he plays.  He has an early life regen skill that makes starting up with him much easier.  Bosses are still tough but I am dying less frequently to them.  Part of that is knowing how to beat the bosses and part of that is the increased tankiness of Fl4k.  Though I guess end game Moze is pretty damn tough.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on November 01, 2019, 10:13:34 AM
I finished my first playthrough last night. I thoroughly enjoyed the game, and will definitely play through again, and do other characters. I was a fan of Amara, her elemental skills were quite powerful.

The twins were ok as antagonists. I didn't really care for Tyreen, but I did like Troy more. I feel like the story was a little underwhelming, but that might just be because I kinda rushed through the end of it. I'll take my time going through TVHM and hit more side quests this time.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on November 01, 2019, 11:24:17 AM
I think the main story is a bit underwhelming as a whole.  It is not bad, but it is not as strong as Bl2.

I am about half way done with Fl4k normal playthrough.  I will probably take him to 50 before I do Amara or Zane.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on December 02, 2019, 11:07:48 AM
Back up playing.  Finished the game on Normal with my Fl4k.  Now about 1/3rd done with TVHM and I am level 49.  That means I am very close to end game content and farming which will be nice.  It is nice to play a character that is good against bosses.  I might have to tweak the build to be less squishy but when I use the right equipment he shreds the bosses.  Just did the Captain Traunt.  First attempt struggled and ultimately died.  Switched to a shock weapon then next time and I wrecked him in about 20 seconds.  For the record this is in Mayhem Mode 1.  Once I get to the Floating Tomb I will probably spend a bit of time to farm a Lyuda, which again, is the best sniper in the game. (Technically in BL2 the best was the Pimpernel.  Lyuda was the best without in the base game.).

My goal now to 100% all areas.  After that I might take another break from the game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on December 05, 2019, 11:28:02 AM
About 50% done with TVHM and 100%ing areas.  My Fl4k is max level and curb stomping bosses.  Mobbing is a bit more difficult.  Right now only playing Mayhem 1.  I hope to eventually take that up to 3 at least. 

For those of you who like lots of 1337 gear: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fkCwu0zeX1BBGcNEzWGZDr2kQ0IOPSoZQK2FD-zpw1M/htmlview?sle=true

Hopefully that will get you looking forward to the release on PC.  (need to ignore that epic store thing)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on January 13, 2020, 10:32:30 AM
I have now taken two characters, Moze & Fl4k, through TVHM.  In total I am a little over 200 hours of game time in.  I am one achievement away from getting the platinum achievement on the PS4.  The only one missing is this firing range achievement.  I am really missing my mouse for that one.  I really want to get that one done and then I am not sure what I am going to do in the game.  I do have two more vault hunters I can complete the game with.  Or I could try to gear up so I can handle the toughest game setting which is Mayhem Mode 4.  Or I could move on to other games.  Decisions.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on January 14, 2020, 10:01:23 AM
Well I got my platinum achievement.  Someone pointed out that you get Moze and spec her to have full ammo regen and then you go into the challenge with a dictator.  That and shooting down the sights made for a easy challenge.  In under five tries I dinged that bad boy and got 100% on the PS4.

I am now awesome and everything is alright in my life.

As a reward to you guys who actually come in here and read my posts you get https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=503&v=Yf0_Pl57UcQ

That is a video of a guy who completed the game without any equipment on.  It is pretty funny.  Might be funnier for people who play the game but still an amazing achievement.

Now do I play another game or do I continue with other characters?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: dave in the basement on January 14, 2020, 12:45:24 PM
Congrats, Sssith!

I suggest you take up cage fighting.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on January 14, 2020, 01:03:51 PM
Other games. Come back when more dlc is out
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: syn on January 14, 2020, 01:16:47 PM
I am now awesome and everything is alright in my life.

Lol, but thatís not news, is it? 
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on January 15, 2020, 03:48:42 PM
Hell to the no.

;)

Well I am probably going to continue to play for a bit, especially with the re-scaling for the Takedown event coming this weekend...I think.

I am playing Amara (the siren) now.

My tentative Amara build (https://borderlands.com/en-US/characters/amara#t=%22cb__2768336927___p__69544143-5_2888777445-3_466974429-5_335451024-2_1013120097-1_2136538075-3_3314723340-1_1889856087-5_3380637792-1_1183250665-2_946253125-3_3602128734-5_1078241388-3___e__89168977-899446352_1572227138-2784015595_3806476316-3989481719%22).

No real clue about Amara.

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on January 26, 2020, 03:35:03 PM
I continue to play the game as the addiction has not waned yet.  Getting to the point where I am able to run the highest difficulty levels. 
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on January 26, 2020, 03:41:47 PM
I have a question, why did you put over 1000 hours into BL2, but only 50 into the pre-sequel?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on January 26, 2020, 07:10:58 PM
I think TPS is good but nowhere as good as BL2.  I think TPS's strongest parts are the builds that you do with the characters.  The sucky parts are the quests.  A lot of them are tedious to do.  I am more story driven build driven so TPS wasn't as interesting for me.

Bl2 >> Bl3 >>> Bl1 >> TPS
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on January 26, 2020, 08:21:45 PM
interesting.   I can't remember all of BL2, but as I replayed through BL1 recently I think it has an edge over 2 for me.  Maybe the nostalgia and brick.

I find they all have maybe too many missions/side missions and its all a bit samey.    The main thing that is keeping me away from TPS is that its a time sink, and those hours could instead be used in MULTIPLE other games.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on January 26, 2020, 09:11:35 PM
Just saw a sale for 45% off BL3 at Indie Gala!    only 4 months in and close to 50% off.  What will the steam launch price be .. how long before a price drop there.

Makes you wonder.  88% of less sales, or 70% of a heap more ..
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on January 27, 2020, 09:45:19 AM
I find they all have maybe too many missions/side missions and its all a bit samey.    The main thing that is keeping me away from TPS is that its a time sink, and those hours could instead be used in MULTIPLE other games.

Sez the guy who still plays D2 and is going back to all the half life games.

The big flaw in BL2 is that, if you do all the missions, you have to go over the same area many times.  Story wise it is the best of them all.  I also think they nailed the itemization better than the other games.

Here is another nod to D2:
(https://satchel-cdn.api.playstation.com/generic/permanent/ACTIVITY/2020/6fa50/1/27/888636098823690102/7bfd5020-40ad-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda.jpg)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on January 27, 2020, 04:22:43 PM
one of the reasons I haven't properly played D2 in over a year.

Going back to replay favourite games, as a one off, or some people do regularly is a thing.  Its nice to see if you can find things you missed the first time, see what you forgot, maybe remind you of those things you'd shut out of your mind.  Similar to say a new movie coming out from a franchise and rewatching the previous ones to hype up and get you back in the zone.

I'm always having a few games on the fly, a mixture of:
go back to something I started and forgot about
something I started and need to get past
something brand new that I know of and want to try it.
something that I have no idea of and want to give it a show

Some examples:
Super 3d Noahs Ark (from the Wolf 3D engine), but having a blast and have more campaign to play, then replay on hard mode for more achievements.  There is an end point ahead, some replaying but I'm ok with that.

Show with your dad simulator: A bit of a joke of a game, but some fun, and if I have a few free minutes something to do to try to unlock the next content.

Cogs: puzzle game, started, lots more content to do when I'm in the mood for that genre.

I have a few various FPS games I have to finish the campaign, or just finish extra stuff, a few serious sam, Duke Nukem Forever, Black Mesa when the achievements are out,  Cod Blops 2, two other COD games to finish the campaigns. Bioshock franchise ..

The result is something such as getting to 100% in Borderlands TPS, Torchlight 2 etc is quite far down my priority list for now.  Variety is keeping me going.  I had some frustration in Duke 3d, but I've finished that content, got 100% achievements, now I've moved on happy.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on February 26, 2020, 09:28:51 AM
I've been playing BL3 since launch, just haven't been posting much. Sorry!!

I took my Amara from 50 to 53 last night doing the Slaughter Shaft. She's ridiculously powerful, with the Ricochet Witch build. I was just running Mayhem 1, but large groups of mobs get crushed in 1-2 shots with my Recursion.

I also have a level 41(I think... I'm not 100%, but it's low 40's) Zane. He's been a blast. I played the story far enough to be able to equip class mods, and then went into the DLC. The "Seein' Dead" class mod is ridiculous, activating his kill skills on hit - which happens all the time when firing an SMG or AR. I love the voice lines from Zane - I like how character more than Amara, who was pretty bland IMO.

I also recently started playing Fl4k, and pushed him to the upper 20's last night. I'm using Fade Away with the rocket launcher Jabber pet. I finished the Moxxi DLC last night, and now I'm going back to Eden-6 to continue the story. Fl4k can definitely dish out some huge damage, so I'm excited to keep playing him.

I do have a level 11 Moze from when I first started the game. Killer Six has started a playthrough with her, and he's getting me excited to come back to play her. I have a couple decent class mods saved for her already, too.

I'm definitely enjoying the game still, and am really excited to hear about the second campaign DLC that's getting announced tomorrow at PAX!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on February 26, 2020, 10:08:54 AM
I am in the process of taking a break.

I have three characters at max level and Zane is somewhere around level 20.

The level cap raise was a mess IMO.  Enough of a raise that that your top equipment doesn't quite cut it any more.  Not enough of a level cap raise to do a lot of new things build wise.  I started refarming some gear and decided I needed a break.

I will come back at some point to continue the journey.  Not sure if I will play with the next DLC or wait until the next level cap raise.

As for characters:
Moze: Iron Bear is actually useful now and you can do some interesting things with it.  Grenades are a problem though as they should hit a bit harder IMO.  Even worse is that not all grenades can use Vampyr which is ridonkulus IMO.  Most builds seem to focus on Destruction.  She has fun dialog, not bland.  Tough to get optimal builds at max level.

Fl4k: Also has good dialog, not bland.  Best build variety and pets are finally helpful.  Very much on the squishy side outside of a Gamma Burst build.  Needs tough anointments to really shine in end game.

Amara: Ugh. Bland annoying dialog.  Good build variety.  Probably easiest to get to top end game form.

Zane: Love the voice acting.  Least familiar with this character which is unfortunate.  Started off as the weakest and while other characters got nerfed (especially Moze) Zane got buffed.  My understanding is that this is the best character right now.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on February 26, 2020, 10:24:19 AM
I'm hoping the new DLC adds something major - either a new skill tree for each character, or ideally, a new Vault Hunter to the game. That, plus a level cap bump so you can access a 2nd capstone skill would be great.

We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on February 26, 2020, 11:48:33 AM
Now 50% off at humble! I predict 60% off before it hits steam
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on February 27, 2020, 10:42:50 PM
It is official, March 13th coming to Steam.

New DLC is a bit spoiler-ish.  In that, it is a marriage between Sir Hammerlock and Wainwright Jacobs.  Gaige is back as the wedding planner, which seems odd.  Another DLC to come out in the Summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53o7JziVujc
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on February 28, 2020, 08:34:21 AM
The Gaige thing is strange to me, but whatever. I liked her in BL2 so I'm happy to see her in 3.

The sneak peak of DLC3 and the idea for DLC4 both intrigue me. I think Salvador could be involved in DLC3, which would be cool. I'm excited for the upcoming free content as well!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on February 28, 2020, 09:59:41 AM
I saw this last night.  I'm not sure I will get this right away, but it's definitely on the wishlist!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on February 28, 2020, 10:12:30 AM
The Moxxie DLC was really good.  I might wait to play until after the next DLC.  They are also they are planning a new Mayhem end game.   Not sure when that is supposed to happen.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on February 28, 2020, 10:45:16 AM
DLC2 is coming March 26th, mayhem 2.0 is coming in April, and then the next takedown event is in May.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on February 28, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
I wish they would outline their plans for level cap increase.  I was not happy with the last one. DLC 3 is slated for some time in the summer.  That might be the one I wait for.  I do enjoy the game so I know I will be back but it would be so annoying to come back and then shortly later have another bump in level cap.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on February 28, 2020, 02:15:22 PM
A big thread in the steam forum was talking about wait for all the dlc. Wait for a big ďcomplete packĒ. Wait for said pack to be 75% off so maybe buy in 2022
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on February 28, 2020, 02:20:17 PM
You can't fault that logic.  Gearbox has made them wait already.  From their POV they might as well wait even longer.  Chances are they know what the 'spoilers' are and other than playing the game as soon as it is available there is not much incentive to buy it at the the higher price.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on March 02, 2020, 08:52:47 AM
I got my Zane up to level 50 last night. I've been running a boss fight in the Moxxi DLC that has a ton of adds, and can be reset without having to save and quit. It's kinda boring, but I got a couple nice annointed Lucky 7 pistols which helped. I can now equip my Redistributed SMG that Wotan dropped on my Amara. I still have to get 3 more levels and some gear, but Zane is definitely a powerhouse now!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 02, 2020, 09:49:32 AM
Have you killed Wotan?

I find that battle very annoying.  I generally do find Raid bosses a bit annoying. I have a Kybs Worth from my fight.  The redistributor is pretty awesome, and arguably the best SMG in the game.  Kybs, Redistributor, and Cutsman generally fight for the top billing.  Why not all three?

Lucky 7 is interesting gun.  Moze and Fl4k can make the most of it if you are willing to futs around and try to get the right roll on it.  I briefly ran with a build based around it.  It was fun once you had the roll annoying to get the roll.  At that point to made out like Gaige praying not to accidentally reload.

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on March 02, 2020, 11:13:58 AM
I have only killed Wotan with Amara so far. I did also get a corrosive Cutsman from my Scraptrap farming, which was a nice surprise. Once I get to 53, I'll probably head over to Wotan with Zane. I have a level 50 shock Cutsman, so I may need to refarm Borman Nates for a 53 of both shock and corrosive.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on March 11, 2020, 07:48:57 AM
BL3 is 50% off on Steam until March 20.  The 3 different tiers are $30/$40/$50 now.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 11, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
Well thatís some good news at least.

I still think unless you are a suoer fan wait till all main dlc is out. A better sale not far off.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 17, 2020, 08:17:33 PM
Been playing the shit out of this since Friday.

It's much better than the first 2. At least, mechanically. Lots of fun.

Story/writing/whatever is shit, but I don't really have much in the way of expectations out of Gearbox.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 17, 2020, 09:09:24 PM
I've been saying...it is fun.  Has its flaws but it is a good time. 

Let me guess.  Moze.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 17, 2020, 09:34:04 PM
Moze!

I don't like her nearly as much as I liked Gaige, but it's hard to argue with pink stompybot.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on March 18, 2020, 09:03:05 AM
The gameplay of 3 is fantastic. The story, not so much. The first DLC did improve on that, which was nice to see. I hope the 2nd DLC keeps up with that improvement.

I've gotten my Fl4k to level 39, and am almost done with the main story. I'll activate Mayhem mode, and head over to the DLC to level up for a while. I switched my build around from using Fade Away (and the green tree) to Rakk Attack (and the orange tree) and it seems more powerful. I'm crushing bad asses and bosses. Having a couple near-level Lob shotguns helps...
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 18, 2020, 09:14:12 AM
R4k attack is pretty good and versatile.

I really enjoyed the Moxxie DLC.  IMO it was top notch all the way through.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on March 19, 2020, 08:38:56 AM
What version of the game did all you guys get?  Super Deluxe for the season pass?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 19, 2020, 08:44:12 AM
I have the super deluxe.  With Bl2 I ended up paying too much.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on March 19, 2020, 02:37:15 PM
I can't decide if I should buy the SD version right now, or if I should wait.  I am leaning towards just getting it now, mainly since it looks fun as hell and it is 50% off.  If I waited, do you think there would be more content included with the game besides the 4 DLCs?  I don't care about cosmetics/skins/etc, just new content.  If I won't miss out on that at a later by buying it now, I think I will just get it now.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 19, 2020, 03:36:35 PM
Yes there will be non cosmetic stuff beyond season pass
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 19, 2020, 03:49:40 PM
I am not clear on this point.  Looking at the content at Amazon it seems that only the DLCs are the add on for the SD version.  No mention of other content. 

edit: DLCs are generally $15 bucks a pop.  So if you think you are going to play them it might be worth it.  At some point in the future, they will bundle everything together but before that, I wonder if the DLC will go on sale.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 19, 2020, 04:05:24 PM
They have past form of doing it. And wanting $ $ $ eg epic exclusive for take2/randy
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on March 19, 2020, 04:23:24 PM
On Steam for about another 20 hrs or so, the base game is $30 and the super deluxe version (base game, some cosmetic crap, and season pass) is $50.  I don't care about the deluxe version ($40) because it just adds the cosmetics to the base game.  It seems like it comes down to paying an extra $20 to get 4 DLCs.  I think it seems like a pretty good deal, especially since I know I will spend hundreds of hrs on this game.

Do you guys remember how they handled it when in BL2 they added Gaige, Krieg, and raised level caps?  Did you have to pay to get those, or was it just added to the game you already had?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Pixie on March 19, 2020, 04:34:12 PM
What version of the game did all you guys get?  Super Deluxe for the season pass?

I got the base version. There's nothing in the DLC that tempts me right now, and the season pass will go on some stupid cheap sale at some point later. Besides which, if BL2 is anything to go by, the DLC will be one good one you can just buy on its own and a bunch of shitty ones you'd rather ignore.

On Steam for about another 20 hrs or so, the base game is $30 and the super deluxe version (base game, some cosmetic crap, and season pass) is $50.  I don't care about the deluxe version ($40) because it just adds the cosmetics to the base game.  It seems like it comes down to paying an extra $20 to get 4 DLCs.  I think it seems like a pretty good deal, especially since I know I will spend hundreds of hrs on this game.

Do you guys remember how they handled it when in BL2 they added Gaige, Krieg, and raised level caps?  Did you have to pay to get those, or was it just added to the game you already had?

Pretty sure you always had/have to pay for Gaige, Krieg, and the level cap increase. I don't think they were ever added to the base game. If the steam store page is any indication, this is still true. (edit: well they are in the GOTY version I guess)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on March 19, 2020, 04:48:12 PM
Thanks for all the information!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on March 20, 2020, 10:01:21 AM
I bought the super deluxe version. One thing to mention about the Moxxi DLC is that if you want to play Zane, his best class mod is only available in that DLC. It's what brought him from ok to bring a top tier Vault Hunter.

I have been farming scrap traps on Mayhem 1 for a while now with my Breath of the Dying. Holy crap is that a strong weapon now! The balls it releases when you kill an enemy are insane! I down myself 4-5 times a run because of them, but the scrap traps are easy to kill so it's not an issue. I got to level 47 last night running that and a couple rounds of the Slaughter Shaft. I'll hit 53 tonight, hopefully, and then turn to leveling Moze!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 20, 2020, 10:27:27 AM
They have said that they won't add any new vault hunters in BL3.  If true that would be unfortunate.  In BL2 they were separate purchases I believe as was the level cap increase.

Farming Scrap Traps?  Is this something new.

I play a bit yesterday for a bit and I ran into something new.  Power Rangers of some sort that when I killed them they drop legendaries.

edit:  The Power Rangers is an Easter Egg that I never got until now.  They have been in the game since the beginning.  Fun!  I wonder what other ones I have missed.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on March 20, 2020, 10:32:31 AM
I saw Joltzdude do it, and Killer Six. Once you activate Mayhem Mode, everything scales to your level, so you get lots of enemies that are easy to kill and give decent xp. It's a quick, easy farm and can be reset without having to save/quit. It's awesome for console, with the slower loading times.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 20, 2020, 11:35:42 AM
I am still not clear on what you are talking about.  Are you talking about farming ScrapTrap Prime?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on March 20, 2020, 01:02:57 PM
Essentially, yes. But it's the scrap traps before he spawns. They give good xp. Then after you kill Scrap Trap Prime, you head out the tunnel to exit but there's a ledge you can jump on to that allows you to re-enter the area. The little scrap traps respawn, and so will Prime. You can do that over and over.

This video shows how to do it: https://youtu.be/lPpcwZ32xpQ
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 20, 2020, 01:09:42 PM
Cool.  I did not know that trick.  Great way to refarm that area!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 27, 2020, 08:38:46 AM
This video shows how to do it: https://youtu.be/lPpcwZ32xpQ

This is the best way to level up.  Holy Crap that was fun.  I am always in to kill some clap traps.  I must have killed thousands of the little buggers.  So cathartic!  Highly recommended as a stress release.  Sadly you need the Moxxie DLC to do this, but that DLC is well worth it.

This allowed me to quickly get into the new DLC.  In the very early stages.  A bit odd to see Gaige as an NPC, but looking forward to getting into the new DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 30, 2020, 10:43:20 AM
Back pounding the pavement, playing lots of BL3.

Very fun.  The new levels are really nice to have.  It was a good improvement for Fl4k but a great improvement for Moze. She still trails the other VH but this has closed the gap some.  With the right equipment she might be able to keep pace.  I have a splash/unlimited ammo thing going on and it is really nice not having to reload.  I need a better grenade for survivability.  Her best grenades are actually purple ones.  These are really tough to farm right now because they have a legendary items in the Vending Machine event going on.  I think it is to help people farm level 57 gear.  It has helped of course, but the side effect is a lot less shopping for purple grenades.

I completed the new DLC and it was good.  Not great.  Not as good as the Moxxie DLC.  The pacing was slower, and things were more spread out.  That said it was a very good.  There a couple of really good new items in the game.  At least one that is must have (a new relic).  The style of the new DLC is really good.  The voice acting is great.  Overall a solid thumbs up.

The Best BL DLC Best to Worse (free seasonal content not included)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 30, 2020, 12:38:55 PM
I would have put general knoxx top3 to top5. Great story. An epic ending which you can loot 3 times.
Tiny Tina definitely best Iíve played.

Many just forgettable with time .

Moxxi underdome I completely skipped when I did bl1 remastered
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 30, 2020, 01:49:43 PM
I personally found Knoxx to be tedious with the driving back and forth.  Athena was cool and the General's ambivalence was amusing but the whole thing was brought down by the area layout.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 30, 2020, 02:48:38 PM
Many things in Borderlands are tedious.  They gave 2 new types of vehicles though, the fast racer with the powerful turbo and the tanky monstertruck thing.    If you compare the time taken to get from A to B not just the distance, I'm sure its similar to other campaigns.  Also that DLC had the only raid boss in BL1 who was killable unlike the others
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on March 30, 2020, 08:25:59 PM
I just finished the Tiny Tina BL2 DLC the other day and it was pretty good.  One of the best parts was the quest where you get armor for Ellie.  Of course, I had to be that guy and I picked the skimpy armor.   :o  ;D
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on March 30, 2020, 09:19:26 PM
I just finished the Tiny Tina BL2 DLC the other day and it was pretty good.  One of the best parts was the quest where you get armor for Ellie.  Of course, I had to be that guy and I picked the skimpy armor.   :o  ;D

great job, there is also a few other non grindy, non raid boss achievements you could look up.  You can't tell me after spending 1000 hours in this game that you dont have time for a bit of content ;)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on March 31, 2020, 09:52:44 AM
I got the skimpy outfit the first time.  Since then I have stuck with the bruising armor.  That DLC had many moments of win.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on April 01, 2020, 08:58:13 AM
I got my Zane to 57 and beat the main story of DLC2 - I enjoyed it, and there are some crazy powerful items in this new DLC. I heard the side quests are excellent, so I'm probably going to start a new Moze and do all the side quests. They added an option to start with a pre-leveled character like the Lilith DLC added). My current Moze was only in the teens, so that'll help some of the early grinding, hopefully.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 12, 2020, 04:36:13 PM
So they finally improved Moze and Iron Bear.  I say improved as she still has some serious design flaws that they should try to address.  That said, I was able to farm a Raging Bear COM (for those of you not in the know that is an M4 only drop (M4 is currently the hardest setting) and I am absolutely rolling with Iron Bear now.  It is a pretty fun set up and I am been having fun stopping areas on the hardest setting, which is nice. 

That said I still suck at the Malliwan Takedown.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on April 27, 2020, 02:11:03 PM
I have a question on difficulty modes for BL3.  After you complete the game on Normal Mode, is it recommended to play through on TVHM or go straight into Mayhem Mode?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 27, 2020, 02:52:25 PM
Sadly, that is not an easy question to answer.  There is some anecdotal evidence that being in TVHM helps get better anoints in the drops.  There are many people who just stay on Normal mode.  As Normal mode with MM turned on is not that different TVHM with MM.  You should be able to finish Normal mode around level 40.  There are certain rewards that you are only able to get once per character.  So what I would recommend is to get through Normal mode, without doing all the Zero sides or Hammerlock sides.  Then in TVHM complete those things only when you are on Max level.  Ideally complete them when on Mayhem Mode 10 I guess.  I assume that would carry over but I am not sure.  Mayhem Mode 2, which now goes up to 10, is new.  Not sure if it will give you the weapons on MM 10 if you finish the quests at that level.

If you bought the game know this:
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on April 28, 2020, 01:56:05 PM
I got it and started playing Amara.  It's going to take a little getting used to this game after playing a lot of BL2, and a little bit of BL1.  The movement and overall gameplay is really great so far, better than the other two games.  I like that you can jump and scramble up certain things like rocks and buildings.  That is a pretty cool addition to this game.  I have to get used to the skills now and all the new items.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on April 30, 2020, 08:39:26 AM
After playing it for a few days, my biggest complaint is the map.  I hate just about everything about it, mainly that while moving it scrolls super slow (you have to use the keyboard) and every time I get into it, it is zoomed in way too much.  The zoom level should stay at what it was when you exit it.  It also turns itself around so that it is really never in the same orientation (like north is up).  I also have to figure out how to change the zoom level on the minimap.  It's super annoying the way it zooms in so much.  It makes it almost worthless.  Last complaint I'll make is the layout of the Sanctuary ship.  I hate it.  People and places are all on different levels and it is such a pain in the ass to traverse through it just to get to a place to talk to someone or buy something.  Maybe I'll get used to it and it won't be a big deal later on, but FFS I spent too much time trying to find where to install a stupid capacitor or something I got from Crazy Earl.  Seriously, I spent like 15 minutes trying to do that, which was super annoying.

I do like that you can fast travel to your vehicle or any fast travel station you have visited without actually being at a fast travel station.  That is a good improvement.

Overally I really like the game.  The guns are varied and are fun to try out.  The 3 types of vehicles are cool, and the loot drops seem reasonable too.  I've found lots of legendaries just by killing badasses and mini bosses.  I'm on Promethea now and working through those quests.  I think I'm level 15.  Really fun game that is definitely worth getting if you are fan of the series.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 30, 2020, 09:47:05 AM
Great!  She is probably the best balanced character skill wise.  You will do well if she is your main.  The ship is a pain but once you know where things are it much tighter than the old town (Dahl floating ship) of Pandora.  I don't even think about it any longer.  The map doesn't bother me though people did complain about it when the game first drop.  I really only use the mini-map to keep track of enemies.  Which comes to one of my main complaints which is that there is too much visual clutter in big fights.  The mini map is very useful in those cases.

The guns in the case are crazy.  So many different ones with weird things about them.  It is one of the strengths of the game.

Glad you are enjoying.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 30, 2020, 11:23:36 AM
As an aside I have been playing the season event Revenge of the Cartels.  Very fun event.  Has a great map with a fun final fight.  Really well done.  And the guns that in that event...are choice.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on April 30, 2020, 02:27:45 PM
I've noticed that after I kill some enemies, a cartel thug or 2 will port into the fight.  Is this a new thing for the event?  I'm guessing this didn't happen before.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on April 30, 2020, 02:53:55 PM
Yeah.  That is all part of the Cartel seasonal event.  If you talk to Maurice on Sanctuary he will give you a mission to collect 'intel'.  You kill one of their operatives who drop a beacon which calls in Cartel heavies.  Kill them to get the intel.  Once you have enough of that you can go to Joey V's place and have an epic battle.  Not sure it is worth doing at your level.  So far there has been a Halloween, Valentine, Cartel seasonal event.  I think they will come back.  So far this event has been the best one IMO.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 04, 2020, 01:37:17 PM
I have played a lot of BL3 over the past few days.  I am on Eden 6 now, around lvl 25 or 26 I think.  I am getting used to the map and the layout of the ship.  I have seen some bugs here and there, mainly with the closed captions, but nothing that is a big deal.  Sometimes I get stuck in a spot I have jumped into and can't get out of (mainly when trying to get the crimson radio locations), so I have to restart.  I didn't like the way the story went after opening the vault on Promethea though.  I am really enjoying the game and think anyone who is a fan of the series will like it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 04, 2020, 03:08:43 PM
Not many people like what happened with the story after Promethea. :-P

This is a game with some real flaws, but on the whole is rather excellent despite them.

I switched to my Amara and took her to the end of TVHM.  I have now completed TVHM with three of my VHers.  Amara, Fl4k, and Moze.  Amara skills are so much better thought out than Moze.  Not sure if they will ever properly fix Moze.  Time will tell.  Along the way I found two of the rarest items in the game. 

(https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/gearbox/optimized/4X/1/6/5/165092a9f2565b5e0c5644db2a998f522cfae508_2_1035x582.jpeg)

Probably the best grenade in the game especially for Moze.  Though ASE anoints are not great for Moze.  Not really a farmable item.  You just have to keep your eye out for them.

(https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/gearbox/optimized/4X/a/f/0/af0d8838f4882faafeeceb245c470b50e0ae5962_2_1035x582.jpeg)  This one is farmable, but still very difficult to get.  M4 and above in the Maliwan Takedown.  Not easy to get.  And if you recognize the location you can farm it from the Agonizer 9000.  Extremely rare for it to drop there but that is where I got it.  Again you have to be on M4 or higher.

Right now my Amara can run M6 pretty comfortably.  I will try to complete Revenge of the Cartel while also doing GLT DLC.  Not sure if the DLC can drop the 'intel' necessary for that.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 04, 2020, 05:07:45 PM
Congrats on the finds and finishing TVHM with your 3rd character!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 10, 2020, 09:32:40 AM
I finally finished the story on Normal mode at lvl 47.  It took me awhile longer than it probably should have since I did pretty much every side quest, except for a couple of timed ones where you have to drive around.  I don't really like those, but may try to complete them now.  I also skipped the vast majority of the Zero and Hammerlock quests based on Geoff's recomendation.  Some of them I accidentally had to do while running into the targets while doing another sidequest.  I will finish those when I get to lvl 57.  I was able to get all the other challenges on each map though (typhon logs, dead claptraps, crimson radio, and hijack locations).   That took a lot of time searching the maps, and I admit I did get some help searching online for some of them.  The crimson radio ones were probably the most difficult since you had to execute some weird jumps to get to them.  Anyway, I am not quite sure what to do now.  I will probably just turn on Mayhem 1 and level up a bit in Normal.  I don't really want to start the whole story over again in TVHM, unless I just sped through doing hardly any sidequests.  Does anyone else have suggestions on what to do, and what difficulties to do things in?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on May 10, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
I suggest playing the story of the pre sequel. Things from bl2 are stilll Alice. You are missing a chunk of the story still
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 11, 2020, 11:09:18 AM
Right now the fun thing is to do the Revenge of the Cartel.

Some really awesome weapons.

Running them on M1 will allow you to get the different achievements in the seasonal event.  The map is pretty fun.  Again the weapon in the event are pretty awesome.  If I were you I would target trying to get up to M6.  At that point all the weapons/equipment in the game can drop.  Doesn't matter about TVHM.  Supposedly you get better anoints in TVHM.

Also when Mayhem Mode 2.0 started there were other weapons added that are awesome.  Most of them are really good.  But if I were to target one it would either be the Kaosan, farmed from Captain Traunt, or Sandhawk sniper, farmed from Katagawa Jr.  Jr.  is a pain to farm and the Kaosan is amazing.  Getting that will let you level up your Mayhem levels.

Aside from that the regular end game content is worth doing at least once.  Proving grounds and Circle of Slaughters.  Not a huge fan of them but it depends on your gaming style.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 11, 2020, 12:52:09 PM
Thanks for the tips Geoff.  I want to level up to 57 soon so I can get some end game gear.  Should I do the cartel thing now, or wait until 57.  I know the event ends on June 4, so hopefully I can do it before then at lvl 57.

I bumped it up to M1 and just did a few things yesterday to see how hard it was.  This was in Normal, not TVHM.  Anyway, I went to Reliance on Eden 6 and just drove around killing some dinosaurs and that really big dino in the big pond in Floodmoor basin.  I got a bunch of legendaries and lots of weapons with annointments.  Even the breakable piles of trash and boxes were dropping good stuff.  I got a couple of legendaries from those too.  Then I went to Meridian Metroplex and started killing things and I got a bunch more legendaries and annoited things.  The best drop was the legendary Hellshock pistol.  That thing really kills stuff fast.  I was able to kill the cartel mini bosses that spawned (fishslap, josie byte, etc.) really easy with the pistol.  Anyhow, I was really surprised at how much more good gear is dropping in Mayhem 1.  I'll mess around with it some more tonight.  Very fun!  I w
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 11, 2020, 12:56:52 PM
The Slaughter Shaft is pretty good for just leveling up.  I think I would do that.  It is five rounds of fighting enemies.  Each round has three parts.  Not my favorite game play but it is a great way to get XP.  I would do that to get to 57 and then go nuts on the rest of the end game content.  Slaughter Shaft is the toughest of the three Shafts.  There is a creature one and a Maliwan one also.  Slaughter Shaft is against COV enemies.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 11, 2020, 03:46:34 PM
I did 1 round (3 waves) of the Maliwan one yesterday.  I didn't like it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 11, 2020, 04:36:07 PM
Me too which is why I head into TVHM and level up while questing.  In TVHM I just do main quests.  You could do Proving Ground runs.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 11, 2020, 06:25:19 PM
I just did one of the proving grounds.  That was a lot more fun with some good loot too.  Thank you for the suggestion!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 11, 2020, 07:33:50 PM
There are six of them.  I prefer them to the shafts also.  Though some of them are a bit insane on high levels of difficulty.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 11, 2020, 10:02:39 PM
Me too which is why I head into TVHM and level up while questing.  In TVHM I just do main quests.
This might be the fastest way to level.  I just killed Mouthpiece in TVHM and am 51 now.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 13, 2020, 07:04:03 PM
I moved on to Promethea in TVHM.  Killed Gigamind and decided to run him for awhile.  I'm lvl 54 now and bumped it up to M3 for running Gigamind.  He drops the Hellshock regularly, so I get a nice weapon upgrade every once in awhile.  I may stay here until lvl 57.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 14, 2020, 06:46:14 AM
I have run him a couple of times.  Hellshock is an interesting weapon in how it flips elements on rebound. 
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 14, 2020, 10:36:59 PM
I hit 57 and can comfortably do Mayhem 3.  So I decided to do the cartels event.  I got a yellowcake on my first try, so I'm going to see if that thing can help me up the Mayhem difficulty a bit.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 15, 2020, 11:16:25 AM
The Yellowcake is a great choice to bump you up to M6. I prefer to run at that level so you can get all drops. From there I would either choose Captain Traunt to get the Kaosan or Katagawa Jr to get the Sandhawk.  Sandhawk eat ammo.  Kaosan is probably the better choice.  To be clear those weapons only drop at M6 or higher.  I don't really see the point of playing at M10 unless you are finding the game easy.  On the PS4 aiming is not as easy so hitting the crits is tougher, so I stay at M6.

I just switched from Amara to Moze again.  Holy cow does Amara kill things quicker.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 15, 2020, 09:37:08 PM
I have a new favorite gun.  The OPQ System is incredible.  I got one doing an M6 villa run.  It just wrecks everything.  I will keep running the villa to get a better yellowcake too.  The yellowcake is probably better for bosses.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 16, 2020, 02:34:17 PM
The OPQ is pretty sweet.  Of the new weapons, I really like the Kaosan.  I forget if you have the DLCs.  If you do supposedly Scrap trap is a good way to get the new weapons from Joey V.  The are so many enemies that the cartel boss get called in and it a short time you can get lots of drops.  I haven't done it myself, but it seems like a solid idea.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 18, 2020, 11:13:21 AM
I forget if you have the DLCs.  If you do supposedly Scrap trap is a good way to get the new weapons from Joey V.  The are so many enemies that the cartel boss get called in and it a short time you can get lots of drops.  I haven't done it myself, but it seems like a solid idea.

I do have the DLCs and I am doing the Moxxi Heist one now.  I just got to the scraptrap place last night.  Also, I can confirm that the underbosses of the cartel event, like Josie Byte, Fish Slap, etc. can drop the Cartel legendaries like OPQ and Yellowcake in this DLC.  I got both of those a couple of times each in the Vice District yesterday.  I think the scraptrap farm would be a great place to get those things at higher mayhem levels because the farm isn't too tough.  I can do mayhem 6 right now without too many problems, so I might try increasing the difficulty gradually to where I can get some mayhem 10 gear from this farm.

Another thing, do you have trouble with annointed enemies?  These are probably the hardest thing in the game for me.  They are harder than just about any boss.  I hate them.  I'm just wondering if I am doing something wrong against them because they take forever to kill and are really annoying.

Lastly, it sounds like Gearbox is going to do some adjusting of the difficulty levels to reduce enemy bonuses to hit points, armor, etc., while buffing most weapons and nerfing others.  It sounds like most of the really good weapons for mayhem 10 will are get nerfed.  So enjoy that Yellowcake, OPQ, Monarch, and Sandhawk while you can.  Overall, it is probably a good thing because it will hopefully make a lot more of the weapons viable.

I really like this game. :)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 18, 2020, 11:31:11 AM
The game is fun, but anointment farming has me a bit burnt out.  I am on a bit of a break for this reason.  Though the itch to jump back in is always there.

GB is planning on lowering M7-10 stats in general.  Enemy health/armor/shield.  This is also going to have a corresponding lowering of stats on some of the weapons.  The next patch, early June I think, is going to buff a lot of the weapons to make them more viable.  Almost everyone is running with the new weapons as the rest just can't keep up.

Anointed enemies are really tough.  There are I think four or five different versions of them.  The one I hate the most is the one that spawns a ball that pursues you.  That one kills me the most.  The one with the shield can be really annoying also.  You can't really hit him when the shield is up and he is invulnerable when he holds his arms up and spawns fire.  Honestly the trick with them is to always have a fire weapon on hand.  Fire generally is the quickest way that I have found to kill them.  You will also find that they spawn more often in certain areas.  I once ran into six in the Anvil area right after Tina.  That was on M3 or 4 when M4 was the highest.  Holy cow that was not pleasant.

As for Scrap Trap prime there is a trick to get all the little Scrap Traps to respawn.  There is a video link of the trick in this thread somewhere I think.  Basically stand at the very back of the cave so that technically you are out of it.  Then run back in.  M10 with cartel == lots of loot I am told.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 18, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
Thanks Geoff.  I will try fire on those anointed enemies next time they appear.  I will try the scraptrap farm trick too.  I saw a youtube video about it, and yes you are right about the respawn thing.  I hear what you are saying about anointed items and trying to get the right one for your weapon.  It's pretty frustrating to farm a long time for a weapon, like the Monarch or Kaoson, and then have it spawn with either no anointment, or a crappy one.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Ray Patean on May 19, 2020, 09:07:43 AM
I'm pretty burnt out on BL3 right now. Mayhem 2.0 kind of put the final nail in the coffin for me. The complete bullet-sponge aspect of Mayhem 8+ just isn't fun for me, nor is farming for countless hours to find the perfect rolled item with the right parts, the right element and right annointment. I am excited for DLC3 and the Eridian Takedown event, so I'll be back playing when that drops. I'm definitely looking forward to the major rework on the higher Mayhem levels and gun damage.

Until then, I'm going to go play The Pre-Sequel. I'm playing as Timothy the Doppelganger, and just got to Concordia. I'm level 6 or 7 currently. My only goal for this game is to play through the main story, and through the Claptrap DLC. Hopefully it's a good time!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 19, 2020, 11:03:01 AM
I feel your pain Ray. 

I jumped into Scrap Trap arena with the cartel on.  It was pretty crazy.  M7 fight.  Most of my gear is M6.  By the end of it all I had 30 legendaries on the ground.  Sadly nothing to interesting except for one Yellowcake. 

(https://satchel-cdn.api.playstation.com/generic/permanent/ACTIVITY/2020/6fa50/5/19/888636098823690102/160ad2b0-99e5-11ea-a0a7-0aa618a3b1e6.jpg)

Still it was a pretty good time.  If you do it go in there with a good fire weapon for Fish Slap. A shock for Josie.  A corrosive for all the bots.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 19, 2020, 12:31:27 PM
I understand where you are coming with from BL3 Ray.  Have fun with the pre-sequel.  I started it awhile back, but didn't get that far into it.  I have to get back to that sometime.

Geoff, that is nuts!  I am almost done with the Moxxi DLC.  I hope to finish it sometime today.  When I do, I will farm the scraptrap place for a bit to see if I can get anything good.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 19, 2020, 01:04:35 PM
I love that little area.  So satisfying to kill all those Clap Traps.  He is a funny character, Clap Trap.  I like having him around but he is still a bit annoying.  Getting to kill him over and over is very cathartic.  lol
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 22, 2020, 09:50:32 AM
I started the 2nd DLC a couple of days ago.  Last night I finished fighting the first mini-boss, the empowered scholar.  Let's just say that I hate that boss.  That is the hardest boss I have faced in the whole main game and DLC 1 so far.  Annoying as F#$@!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 22, 2020, 10:49:24 AM
Everyone hates him.  The first time I faced him I died many times.  I think your are running with Amara.  Maybe with Ties that Bind?  If you grasp the lead a$$wipe, who is invulnerable, you can then shoot him to damage the scholar.  When I figured that out life become much easier.  Also there is a way to shoot the crystals when he goes off to recharge without having to do the platforming.  There are videos around that show where you have to be in order to snipe the crystals.  Lastly you don't have to do any platforming.  The negative side of that is he comes back fully charged.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 22, 2020, 11:31:49 AM
Yes, using phasegrasp with ties that bind.  I had to use the platforms on the final phase.  I just couldn't see the last crystal, so I couldn't shoot it.  I died a couple of times because of missing a jump, or having rocks fall on me.  That was annoying.  The dead guys the boss sends at you that explode on you killed me a lot too.  Plus the guy he sends at you with 3 bars that you can't damage (the one you mentioned) just sucks.  Then there were the times that I would die and there was nothing to kill to get a second wind.  Shooting a crystal doesn't count for the second wind.  So annoying.  I probably died 10 times.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 22, 2020, 12:47:51 PM
To shoot all the crystals on the right platform you have to go to a rock on the right side.  From on top of it you can see the crystals that you normally can't reach.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on May 26, 2020, 10:43:04 AM
Finished DLC2.  It was pretty good.  I don't think I've been disappointed with any Borderlands DLC I've played.  They put out some pretty good stuff in these DLCs.  I didn't play as much over the weekend, but I did farm Capt Traunt for a better Kaoson, and I got a pretty nice Sandhawk from Katagawa Jr.  I ran the cartel villa a few more times, but didn't get any upgrades.  Now it's just wait and see what gets buffed and nerfed in the next round of changes.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on May 26, 2020, 11:16:32 AM
I thought both DLCs for BL3 have been top notch.  It adds to the back ground story in interesting ways.  As a stand alone they both had enjoyable stories (better than BL3s main story line).  Added interesting items to farm.  I can only hope that the next two DLCs are as strong.  Even the Tiny Tina DLC, which was beyond awesome, didn't really add that many items of interest.  The Grog Nozzle, the Grenade Magic Missle, and a farm location for the Bee Shield.  Pirate DLC added great items but story wise fell a bit short.  The Heist and GLT really delivered on all accounts.

I am curious what the re-balancing will be like.  Not sure it will be enough to pull me back.  I guess it will depend if I am engaged in another game that I am happy with. 
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 02, 2020, 06:17:15 PM
I stopped farming for the Yellowcakes and OPQs even though the cartel event is ending in a couple of days.  I have a couple of decent Mayhem 7 versions of each and that is good enough for me.  Plus, they will probably get nerfed so why keep farming them?  I started a new character and have my new Fl4k up to lvl 20.  He's fun to play so far.  I'm just about to the vault on Promethea, so we'll see how that fight goes.

I am curious what the re-balancing will be like.  Not sure it will be enough to pull me back.  I guess it will depend if I am engaged in another game that I am happy with.
I am anxious to see what changes they make on June 4.  Hopefully more weapons are viable.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 03, 2020, 01:00:03 PM
Hopefully tomorrow things will move in a positive direction.  Aside from making more gear viable I really hope they do something about anointments.  Aside from that I will probably wait until the next DLC that comes out.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 03, 2020, 04:21:26 PM
See you in a few weeks then!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 04, 2020, 10:13:50 PM
Looks like they are delaying the patch.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 05, 2020, 11:21:42 AM
I rather they delay it and get it right.  They have rushed some things in the past.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 05, 2020, 12:28:41 PM
I agree.  Not a big deal to me.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 11, 2020, 11:19:45 AM
https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2020-06-11-borderlands-3-patch-hotfixes-june-11/

Pretty disappointed in this patch.  Certainly it has nothing to entice me to play again.  I am still going to wait for the next DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 11, 2020, 04:48:44 PM
They added the new takedown, nerfed a few weapons (expected), and buffed a few SMGs.  Other than that, not much.  I'm surprised and happy that the OPQ didn't get nerfed.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 11, 2020, 06:18:05 PM
Yeah...but given all the hype about the rebalance, and then delaying the patch to get it right, I feel a bit underwhelmed.

You'll have to tell me if the new Takedown is any fun.

I liked Maliwan one, and I completed it a couple of times.  But it is not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 11, 2020, 06:31:14 PM
I never did the Maliwan thing, but I will try out this new one now.  I'll keep it on M7 and see if it's any easier...

EDIT:  I played a little yesterday after the patch was applied.  I wanted to try the new takedown, but I couldn't access it because I haven't finished the game in TVHM yet.  This (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/12/borderlands-3s-new-guardian-takedown-is-dead-on-arrival-without-major-changes/#2fa0056f6969) article seems to suggest the new takedown difficulty is messed up, so maybe I'm not missing out.  In the small time I did play, I didn't notice anything being different on M7, as far as killing things goes.  I did notice that my yellowcake listed damage was around 19k, down from 31k.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 12, 2020, 10:31:09 AM
They keep pissing people off with the nerfing of weapons.  I guess the idea is that they lowered the life of all the monsters so they lowered the damage out put of some weapons.  And the lowered life, in theory, makes more weapons viable.  I have read some posts on the official forums that some people have found that it doesn't really help with the other weapons.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 12, 2020, 01:05:02 PM
So the 300/90 anoint has been nerfed.  It used to apply until you go to 90% of the last bar, which was awesome.  Now it adds up the total health (all the bars combined) and it works on the first 10% of the damage you do on an enemy.

This is what I wrote on the official forum:

Quote
What this means is that this anoint is now trash 90% of the time.

The one exception is on weapons that can do massive damage with one shot. On regular weapons donít bother with this anoint any longer.

And this is the problem that I have with this game. Farming for anoints takes time. More time than I have to actually play the game. The result is that I will play the game the next time that a DLC will drop, or some interesting event comes along, but aside from that there is no point to play the game. Farming for stuff is a waste of my time because it is too hard to get the anoint I want. And there is a decent chance that if I do get the anoint, it will be nerfed at some point in the future. Which only goes to prove that I wasted my time getting that weapon with the Ďperfectí anoint.

Anoints, from my POV, have ruined the game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 12, 2020, 01:53:55 PM
Yeah, that annointment is about as useful as the ones that are active while sliding or airborne.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 12, 2020, 01:58:12 PM
It is still probably useful on an Ion Cannon build.  Or maybe on an Unseen Threat sniper rifle.  But that is about it.

This game is really fun and I had a great time playing it.  Excellent DLCs and some of the events are top notch.  But end game?  God awful IMO.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 18, 2020, 11:14:35 AM
The going rumor right now is that there is going to be a cap increase to 60.  People have spotted youtubers running around with characters at that level.

Just reinforces the idea that I need to wait until the dust settles.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 18, 2020, 11:42:24 AM
So all of our lvl 57 gear is now crap.  I guess it was bound to happen.  More skill points!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 18, 2020, 01:17:15 PM
I love how they do this after an event (Cartel) where great new weapons dropped.  Now all those weapons will be junk and you can't get them until the event runs in about a year's time.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 18, 2020, 03:22:01 PM
It's depressing.  They had better improve other guns then, and not just 5 or 6 SMGs.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 18, 2020, 03:45:17 PM
It is almost like they don't have a solid map of how they are planning on 'improving' the game.  Their roadmap is all over the place.

On the official forum someone had the idea that anoints should be separate drops that you add to the guns like trinkets.  I absolutely love this idea.  I think there are so many good ways to make this farm and it would give the player much better control over the ones that they want to use.  It would also, for me, remove the one thing that makes farm a royal pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 18, 2020, 07:21:26 PM
I like the idea of adding an anoint with a trinket.  It's hard enough to get a gun you hope for sometimes (with the right element), then to have a crappy anointment on it just sucks.

EDIT:  I just finished the story with Fl4k at lvl 40.  I think I like Amara better, but I liked playing Fl4k.  I will try to get him to 57 now.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 19, 2020, 10:50:39 AM
Skill wise Amara is easily the best.  Personality....meh.

All the characters suffer in comparison to Amara.

Zane is supposed to be ok but the character is supposed to be dependent on the Seeing Dead Com.  Not good that it is the only Com that people seem to use for him.
Moze is fun but is broken in a bunch of different ways.
Fl4k is pretty good but pets don't really work ideally.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 21, 2020, 09:22:05 AM
I tried the new takedown this morning with Amara since I finished TVHM with her last night.  I kept the difficulty on M7 and did not enable true takedown mode.  I died on the second set of crystals.  I was nearly out of ammo anyway.  The enemies have a lot of HP and take awhile to kill.  Basically, there is no way I could do this on M7 solo.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 22, 2020, 10:35:59 AM
Congrats on TVHM for Amara.  Maybe when the next DLC comes out I will pick up Zane and try to get him through to the end.  He is the only one who hasn't completed the game, much less TVHM.   The other three get to hang out at the TVHM Bar and make fun of him.

I haven't even looked in on the new Takedown.  I would start on M1 and just get a feel for it.  When there was only four level of Mayhem I finished Maliwan take down in Normal and then M1.  I never succeeded any higher.

Did you see that there are lots of rumors going around that they are going to release a fourth skill tree for each vault hunter.  It is an interesting idea but I hope they fix and stabilize everything before they attempt that.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 22, 2020, 01:30:29 PM
Getting all 4 characters through TVHM would be pretty cool, so good luck finishing up Zane!  I have not heard about the 4th skill tree.  I agree with you that they have a lot of other stuff to fix before adding that.  Plus, if they add another tree it will probably mess with the game balance, so they will probably have to change things again.  It seems like an endless cycle.

I've got my Fl4k up to lvl 45 in TVHM now.  I just finished the Athenas part of the story, so I've still got a long ways to go with him.  I switched over from Rakk attack to the Skag pet and Gamma Burst, and it seems to be doing pretty well for me.  I am playing at Mayhem 2 now after running Gigamind a little bit for some better gear.  I'm looking forward to finishing TVHM with this guy and switching up the build as needed to try different things out.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 22, 2020, 01:49:01 PM
I've run all three main builds of Fl4k.  Gamma burst was pretty tanky, if you are using Red Fang COM.  Rak Attack was probably my main one and seemed like a nice mix of DPS and sustain.  I used Fade Away and it was all DPS.  Supposedly that is one of main build right now.  The trick being to maximize cool down so you have Fade Away up as much as possible.  They finally fixed Head Count so you should be able to use that to get back into Fade Away.  In Fade Away you are pretty safe, but out of it you are the Glass Canon.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 24, 2020, 05:38:46 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/24/two-warnings-about-borderlands-3s-bounty-of-blood-dlc/#48a9f34941ac (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/24/two-warnings-about-borderlands-3s-bounty-of-blood-dlc/#48a9f34941ac)
Level cap to 60 is confirmed.  The new DLC is out tomorrow.

EDIT:  Quick DLC Review if you are interested.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/25/borderlands-3-bounty-of-blood-dlc-review-great-loot-average-story/#75515e212978 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/25/borderlands-3-bounty-of-blood-dlc-review-great-loot-average-story/#75515e212978)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 25, 2020, 07:53:35 PM
They fixed weapons found in chests.  While leveling up Flak I just got a conference call at Mayhem level 2 from a chest.  Previously everything from a chest was Mayhem 0.  Also, I just got a unique grenade from  a mob that shows as mayhem lvl 2.  So it seems like they may have fixed grenades to do more damage.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on June 29, 2020, 09:22:34 AM
I'm nearly at lvl 60 with Flak.  I'm close to finishing the story in TVHM with him, but still have a little ways to go.  I have been using some of my stashed lvl 57 gear saved up from playing Amara.  Pretty soon all that stuff is going to be trash thanks to the new level cap.  I will probably start the new DLC  once I finish the main story with Flak.  I've also got to get him the pearl relic from the 2nd DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on June 29, 2020, 10:44:47 AM
I am away from my PS4 so it will be a while before I can get to this.

Scaling grenade damage is good news for Moze.

I am looking forward to hearing what you think of the new DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 03, 2020, 01:35:04 PM
I'm playing the new DLC with Flak on Mayhem 2, which is easy, but I wanted to get through it a little quicker.  So far I like the DLC.  I have no idea how far I have to go, but I have been to 3 different zones now.  I just found a Light Show pistol and it is amazing.  This lvl 60 Mayhem 2 version of it (with no anointment) is killing things just as fast or faster than the lvl 57 Mayhem 7 OPQ I've been using.  I can't wait to get a nicely rolled Mayhem 7 version of it for my Amara.

EDIT:  I just finished it.  I thought it was pretty good.  About the same as the other two as far as likability for me, but I think this one has some better weapons in it than the other two.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 05, 2020, 04:07:07 PM
Good to hear.  I am about to get things going again.  I am hoping to take my Moze and roll through the new content.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 06, 2020, 11:07:52 AM
Jumped into my Moze and got to Lvl 60 quickly by killing claptraps.  I respec'd my build to be Iron Bear centric using the Ragin' Bear mod, boy does he rake.  That said I am feeling very squishy out side of IB.  The way that I am spec'd it does not take too long to get IB back. 

I started the new DLC and I really like the environments.  Not too far into it at this point.  I will continue until I get 100% achievement for it.  I picked up a Gargoyle pistol.  Right now my mail go to weapon, even though it chews through ammo.  It has been a while since I played and I am trying to figure out what equipment is worth having at level sixty.  If I can increase my survivability  outside of IB I might try running at M10, right now I am at M7.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 06, 2020, 11:14:36 AM
I've almost finished the DLC with Amara at Mayhem 7.  It's harder than when I did it with Flak (obvious since that was on M2), but really it's not bad at all.  The new weapons are just great.  I plan on using mostly these new weapons from now on.

Amazingly, the OPQ my Amara was using (lvl 57, M7) is still quite effective vs lvl 60+ enemies in Mayhem 7, so I will keep that gun.  However, I have to sell pretty much everything else that was in my bank now to make room for the new lvl 60 stuff I am finding.  That includes the yellow cakes, which kind of suck now.

I hope you like the DLC as much as I have.  The Gargoyle is definitely a damage dealer.  Wait until you get a Light Show, Flipper, and Complex Root.  Heck, the Beacon is a solid weapon too.  So many good new guns from this DLC.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 06, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
I just finished the DLC with Amara.  The end fight was much tougher.  Now I'm going to try to find all the crew challenges and do the side quests for all the zones.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 07, 2020, 11:45:55 AM
I am rolling through the DLC on M10.

Iron Bear is a bit overpowered.  But I am slowly collecting M10 loot.  Outside of IB I don't survive that long.  Maybe that will change as I get better gear but I somehow doubt it.

I just finished the baths area.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 09, 2020, 11:53:43 AM
Just got to the third, and final?, area of DLC 3.  M10 is a bit unbalanced.  So many weapons seem to do zero damage against enemies.  Another thing that is unbalanced with shield/health.  I am finding that M10 enemies just rip through my defenses.  When I fight outside of IB I do most of it in FFYL, which is a crazy way to go through the game.  I definitely need to improve my gear but M10 doesn't seem right from my M10 novice view point.  Last point on this topic is this was not the case in M6-7.  So I think it is more a scaling issue than me out-right sucking.

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 09, 2020, 04:20:36 PM
Just found out that enemy damage is now scaling with mayhem levels.  This is not by design and it is what is leading to the experience that I am having.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 09, 2020, 05:18:04 PM
Yeah, I read that today too.  Hopefully they fix it soon.  I still play in M7.  That's just fine for me.  Maybe someday I'll bump it up to M10.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 09, 2020, 06:46:03 PM
And people are clamoring that IB is too strong. lol

The problem with scaling weapon damage on enemies is that we don't have scaling healing/shields/hp.  The enemies do have those things.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 10, 2020, 10:57:48 AM
I just finished BoB (Bounty of Blood: DLC3).  Overall this was really excellent.  Especially considering that it did not rely on pre-existing characters.  Good story, if somewhat unremarkable.  Great environments, fun side quests.  Great pacing.  The last one I think is undervalued.  The Pirates DLC in BL2 is a good example of this because by the end it was a little tedious.  Even Tiny Tina suffered a bit with the pacing.  BoB was tight, kept moving forward at a reasonable pace.  The guns in the BoB are fun also.  I guess the power creep is to be expected as it is one of the things that draws people to buy the DLC.  Lastly the main bad guy was good and didn't devolve into ridiculousness which can sometimes happen.  So far GB is 3 for 3 with the DLCs.  No regrets getting the Deluxe version of the game given the content that has been delivered.  On the whole the three DLCs are stronger than the main game.  Now I will continue on my way to 100% all the achievements in the new DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 10, 2020, 05:02:30 PM
Congrats on finishing and I'm glad you liked it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 13, 2020, 10:58:29 AM
I finished 100%ing the BoB Dlc with Moze.  While I was doing that I fought the Ruiner a bunch of time and got three of the four new heads.  Only one missing is Zane.  Then I worked on getting some Old God Shields, I now have a bunch.  I wanted one in each element and managed all of them except fire.  Given that this was mainly for Moze I was pretty pissed that there was no fire one.  I completed a couple of the proving grounds on M10 which was nice.  Good hard fights.  I then went to the Maliwan Takedown.  I first tried on M6 to see how I could do.  My previous best was completing in it on M1.  I completed the Takedown without too much fuss, so I was happy.  For giggles I tried it on M10.  That was much tougher, and the sad part is that I almost made it.  I died when Wotan throws up the second shield.  Given how long it took me to get there I decided not too bother trying again.

At this point I switched over to my Zane who is the only Vault hunter who hadn't finished the game.  I abandoned him level 37 right be for killing Tyreen.  I promptly took care of that mistake.  This is the VH that I call SsspinalTap, because he never turns in the Fuse quest.  I love seeing all the spines pop-out of COVs when I kill them.  For what it is worth I can confirm that Tyreen does not have a spine.  No surprise there.  I have since moved on to TVHM and I am having fun leveling up Zane.  I just got to Promethea.  My goal is to get to sixty and switch to completing the the three DLCs with Zane.  It is fun to just be questing.  Pity that we will not be getting any new Vault Hunters, and I am having fun questing.  The end game for BL3 is not so engaging for me.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 13, 2020, 07:15:10 PM
Congrats on all you did with Moze, and I hope you have fun with Zane.  You are right about the end game, there really isn't one.  I'm currently doing the other 2 DLCs  with Flak.  I'm doing the Hammerlock one now to get the Pearl.  Almost done with it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 21, 2020, 01:02:04 PM
So my Zane is lvl 60 and happily cruising on M10.  The clone/drone build, which is the new meta, is ridiculous.  My job as the player is to swap places with the clone to get him into the right place to kill everything.  And kill everything he does.  Ridiculous.  Not necessarily the most fun play style.  Right now my best weapons are pistols and I run out of ammo.  The clone, nope, infinite ammo.  So I run out of ammo and then proceed to survive by popping the clone and having him do all the work. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 21, 2020, 02:21:01 PM
I might have to try Zane now!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 23, 2020, 11:12:03 AM
Pretty big patch today.  They killed a lot of useless and little used anointments. Hopefully this means that it will be easier to get a hold of the ones that are good.  If that is the case it might be a good time to farm certain weapons.  Also big changes loot pools and some nebulous remarks about how certain things were fixed for Moze and Zane.  They suspiciously sound like nerfs.  Time will tell.  Ties that Bind was also addressed.  Nerf?

https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/borderlands-3-patch-and-hotfix-07-23-2020/4542108

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj52aM5TmoE&feature=emb_logo

I will be beyond pissed if Iron Bear and Clone are not working well in M10.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 23, 2020, 07:24:50 PM
Oooh, thanks for that news Geoff.  I will have to see what got changed.  I hope they fixed vehicle damage.  They can't damage anything in Mayhem levels.

EDIT:  Just read through the notes and THANK GOD they got rid of all those crappy anointments.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 24, 2020, 10:56:00 AM
So Zane is fine.  They undid the craziness that was going on with Drone and OPQ but the drone by itself is fine.  Moze, by all accounts, is still raking with Iron Bear.  Probably the biggest nerf is the to weapons that were spawning extra projectiles with elemental damage.  The recursion in particular has been neutered. This has a lot of Amara players feeling mad because the Recursion build is dead.  I have little pity for Amara players, despite the fact that I played her character to the end.  They have had it really good for so long and it is not like there aren't plenty of other builds for her that still slay everything.  I honestly have always felt that what was happening was a bug, but GB left it in so long that they felt it was supposed to be that way.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on July 26, 2020, 01:59:04 PM
I finished all the DLCs with Flak.  I bumped the difficulty up to M10, since M7 was almost too easy.  I am now farming for M10 versions of the light show, gargoyle, flipper, and complex root for both Flak and Amara.  Those are easily my 4 favorite weapons at this time.  The gargoyle was just insane how it destroyed armored enemies in the Moxxi DLC.  Eventually I want to start playing Zane since I found a couple of Seein' Dead class mods in the Moxxi DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on July 27, 2020, 10:37:46 AM
My only problem with the gargoyle is that it chews through ammo.  The weapons you mentioned are all really good.  Sadly there are too few weapons that cut it at M10.  I finished the BoB DLC with Zane and I am on my through GLT.  I found my first One Shotter shield.  I will have to figure out where to use it.  There is a Facepunch build for Moze that I might try with it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 03, 2020, 10:57:58 AM
My Zane has completed TVHM. I have now done this with all of the VHs. Favorite VH is Moze, though Fl4k was a close second, and Zane not far behind that. While Amara was powerful, I was annoyed that the ability that I enjoyed using the most was grasping. Which I felt shouldnít have been one of her abilities. That ability belongs to Maya. Fl4k was the VH with which I 100% completed the game. The only thing I havenít done in the game is Guardian Takedown. Eventually I will get around to trying it.

Zaneís reward for completing his TVH run?
(https://satchel-cdn.api.playstation.com/generic/permanent/ACTIVITY/2020/6fa50/8/3/888636098823690102/79c6e590-d541-11ea-a0a7-0aa618a3b1e6.jpg)

Somehow that seems appropriate. [That is a Woodblocker Sniper.  Very common and pretty crappy.  Also only one item in the chest is pretty crappy.  Not that I needed five other useless items.]

Not sure what I will do next. I have a nice 50%/150% Rad Flipper that I could run around with on Moze. Thrown on a Green Monster and that would probably wreck. Fire/Shock/Rad/Corrosive all at once (I forget if the flipper has shock mode)? The other thing I would like to do with Moze is run around with a facepuncher .

I will certainly play the next DLC when it comes out. Overall I think I have gotten my moneyís worth with this game. I have about 450 hours in the game with the most time on Moze and Fl4k. I think that works out to about $0.22 an hour. Not too bad a deal.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 06, 2020, 02:18:03 PM
Congrats Geoff! You've played the hell out of the game. Getting a woodblocker in that chest sucks. One time I couldn't even get the contents of that chest because Ava walked over to where I was standing and stood right on me. It is a glitch in the game apparently and you have to exit because you can't do anything.

I haven't played for a few days, but I'll get back to it soon. Looks like they buffed some more weapons today.

Lastly, bl3 is free to play on Steam until 12 August for those who haven't tried it out yet.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on August 06, 2020, 03:33:01 PM
Should put that in the free games thread. Iíll start a download later so I have the files for later
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 06, 2020, 03:48:15 PM
Thanks.  And good on you for recognizing the fact that is was a Woodblocker. lmao

What a crappy drop.

Very cool that BL3 is free to play.  I actually will download it and try it out on a PC.  Very curious.  Maybe I will be able to do a crit build be cause I will be better able to hit the mark with a keyboard mouse.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 07, 2020, 11:02:11 AM
I imagine there were a lot of people downloading the game to try it out as it was very slow to get.  But this morning I tried it out and of course it is better than the console.  Sharper graphics, bolder colors, easier to aim.  At some point I will probably get the game when it is on a steep discount.  F* Epic exclusives.

So I started a Fl4k with the intent of doing a Fade Away build.  You are rewarded for good aiming which is part of the point when using keyboard mouse.  Right now I have a bit of a habit aiming for center mass.  Let's see what I can do in a week.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 08, 2020, 10:39:16 AM
I think it's 50% off on Steam now thru August 20, so now is a good time to get it for PC.  Or you could wait and hope it goes down more.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 09, 2020, 03:38:19 PM
The boss loot event is going on now for another 3 or 4 days.  Basically all bosses/named enemies have their dedicated drop rates increased massively.  All the named bosses in the 3rd DLC drop their weapons every time you kill them, so now is a great time to farm the light show, gargoyle, and flipper until you get some with good anointments.  I've got better M10 versions for Flak and am doing the same now for Amara.  Then I may try to get nice M10 versions of the Monarch and Kaoson.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 10, 2020, 01:09:10 PM
I saw that you were madly farming stuff.  I hope you get a lot of play on those items before GB does something to invalidate the weapons.  That has happened to me a couple of times.

So the PC version of the game is better than the PS4 version.  Not really surprised bsy that.  There are more details that come out.  Graphics are better.  Eventually I will get the Steam bundle when things get cheap.  Right now you can get the whole game and DLC for $50 which is about $35 more than I would pay.  After the free time is up I will go back to FC5.

My Fl4k run on PC is done with squashing Katagawa's balls.  Next up is Katagawa himself and the vault on Promethea.  Not sure I will get it done before my free time is up.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 10, 2020, 04:28:40 PM
They nerfed the sniper he drops so no big deal if you don't kill him.  I saw you on there too getting all sorts of achievements.  Tim would be jealous!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 10, 2020, 08:27:08 PM
Timmeh does love his achievements.

On a fresh play through they come fast and furious.  On a PC I would have to do some MP to get to 100%.  I knocked that out early on the PS4.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 10, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
I got some decent M10 versions of the 4 weapons I was farming, so I decided to quit doing that and start playing Zane.  Almost to mouthpiece at lvl 5.  It's weird having 2 action skills available, but it works out pretty good for me since I hardly ever throw grenades.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 11, 2020, 10:09:43 AM
I am finding that I don't like the key bindings for the PC.  I think I want to change grenade and melee to something easier to hit.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 11, 2020, 12:48:57 PM
I moved both of those to buttons on the side of my mouse.  Much easier to use them that way then the default key bindings.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 12, 2020, 10:30:36 PM
I think today is the last day of the boss loot event, so I decided to farm Capt Traunt to get a decent M10 Kaoson for Flak.  The special event really upped his drop rate for this.  I didn't get one every time, but every other time maybe.  Anyway after 19 drops, I finally got the anointment I was looking for on drop 20, 115% bonus damage when gamma burst is active.  It would have taken multiple hrs to get him to drop that gun 20 times without this event.  I may try for a Monarch or a Sandhawk, but I'm running out of time and it's late.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 13, 2020, 10:39:00 AM
Hard core.

I think I am taking a break from BL3 until the next DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 13, 2020, 11:26:05 AM
The event ended at 9am PST today so I was able to do a little bit of farming this morning.  I got a couple of monarchs that have decent anointments and only 1 sand hawk worth a crap.   Better than nothing though.

Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 13, 2020, 02:47:01 PM
I forget exactly when you joined up, but I got burnt out farming for anoints only to have the level cap increase or some nerf come along and kill the weapon that I farmed so hard for.  Lately I have been trying to play in a way where anoints don't really matter.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 21, 2020, 05:16:56 PM
So the last DLC is going to center on Krieg!  Pretty happy about that despite never having played him.   Which is something I am going to try and correct.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 22, 2020, 05:59:51 PM
Are you playing BL2 Krieg?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 23, 2020, 12:07:54 PM
Yes.  I started a Boosted Krieg and I am following a guid to get me up to speed.  I have never done well with a melee build so I can hope it all works.  It was nice to skip 95% of normal.  I really just want to get a better sense of him before the new DLC drops, if I end up loving him I might take him to UVHM.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 25, 2020, 12:53:46 PM
The new DLC is out on 10 Sep and will raise the level cap to 65.  So you'll have to find all new gear AGAIN to replace the level 60 stuff you are carrying now.  5 more skill points is cool, but I don't like having to farm gear again, especially things like the Kaoson and Monarch which don't drop too often.  At least the DLC 3 uniques aren't too bad to farm, it's just getting the right anointments on them that is the hard part.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/08/25/borderlands-3-reveals-psycho-krieg-dlc-mayas-return-and-an-imminent-launch-date/#446db21b7904 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/08/25/borderlands-3-reveals-psycho-krieg-dlc-mayas-return-and-an-imminent-launch-date/#446db21b7904)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 25, 2020, 01:29:38 PM
The new DLC is out on 10 Sep and will raise the level cap to 65.  So you'll have to find all new gear AGAIN to replace the level 60 stuff you are carrying now.  5 more skill points is cool, but I don't like having to farm gear again, especially things like the Kaoson and Monarch which don't drop too often.  At least the DLC 3 uniques aren't too bad to farm, it's just getting the right anointments on them that is the hard part.

Now your are starting to sound like me.  Holy crap I think they screwed the pooch with the small increments to level caps.  Also anointments suck.  I've gotten to the point were I don't care about anointments. The fact that IB and Clone rake makes anoints less needed, that said that whole system can suck my left testicle.

I am really looking forward to the DLC and I hope it lives up to my expectation.  I have hit level 41 in BL2 with Krieg.  I just want to get some game time with him before the new DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on August 25, 2020, 03:23:02 PM
Nice progress on Krieg!
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 25, 2020, 03:32:11 PM
Thanks, I am skipping most side quests.  My goal in TVHM is to get through it was quickly as I can.  You get blocked at level 50 so there is no point it trying to do more on the side.  I am about to go into Wildlife refuge with Mordecai.  BLOOOOODWIIIING!!!

I just watched the trailer and I was hoping to see it go in a different direction.  Now it is just a trailer so it can easily be deceiving, I was hoping to potentially see if Krieg had a way out of his madness.  This seems to want to revel in that madness.  I was also hoping to see a better side of Eva in this.  I do wonder if they have given up on her.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Timinator on August 26, 2020, 08:03:37 AM
what do you mean a "boosted krieg" I know the early game can be dull.  Just wanting to get to the destination and skip most of the leveling journey?
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on August 26, 2020, 09:21:42 AM
Just before the release of BL3 they added a new DLC to BL2.  Along with that came the ability to create a new character that was level 30 at the end of normal.  The idea was to allow people who hadn't played in a while to be able to jump into the new DLC at a reasonable level.  It is really nice to be able to skip 95% of the normal play through.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 09, 2020, 02:32:02 PM
New DLC out tomorrow.  Apparently spend your 99 million cash before you do anything else.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/09/09/a-warning-before-you-start-borderlands-3s-psycho-krieg-dlc/#b5595fe46d66 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/09/09/a-warning-before-you-start-borderlands-3s-psycho-krieg-dlc/#b5595fe46d66)
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 09, 2020, 05:18:00 PM
I haven't really bothered to accumulate that much cash.  Not sure what Moze has in her banks.  More SDUs?

I hope this DLC lives up to my preconceived notions.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 10, 2020, 01:08:31 PM
I've read 2 reviews on the new DLC and both said it was underwhelming, probably the worst of the 4.  I'll still play it, though maybe not right away.  I almost have my Zane through normal.  He's lvl 34 or so I think.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 10, 2020, 02:12:28 PM
WAT.  Zane normal.  Boost that guy. lol.

And yes I am preparing myself to be underwhelmed by the DLC.  Disappointing.  The one review I read said that there are three parts and that only two of them are good.  It also said that the DLC is not the grand send off that BL3 needed.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 10, 2020, 03:00:43 PM
I read that 2 of the 3 parts were not good, only the middle act was good.  I guess we will find out for ourselves when we play it.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 11, 2020, 10:48:33 AM
I finished the first of the three parts of the new DLC and it was meh at best.  I am currently 50% through the second and it definitely better but I am not looking forward to the boss fight.  There is this thing where you collect memories.  They fan out and you have to shoot them while it is timed.  On the console aiming that quickly is a pain in the ass.  I gave up on two of them.  Eventually, I guess, I will get them done.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 12, 2020, 11:18:05 AM
I finished the DLC and it was ok.  Sadly the weakest of the four and I wasn't thrilled with the ending.  Overall it felt like there was a clear vision of how to handle the story.  Almost as if the story was driven by a brainstorming session and the parts didn't really fit together.  By the end of it, I was heartily sick of Tannis. The first part of the story Meh.  The second part was good if a little unsatisfying.  The third part was good but very predictable.  So overall I would say the DLC was a bit disappointing.  I had high hopes and that probably is playing into my assessment.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 13, 2020, 08:12:58 AM
Thanks for your thoughts on it.  That sounds like most of the reviews I have seen so far.  I haven't started it yet.  I finished normal with Zane and am now to Promethea in TVHM.  I will probably take a break from him and just go ahead and do the DLC with either Flak or Amara.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 19, 2020, 05:07:55 PM
I'm 2/3 of the way through the Krieg DLC.  Only comment so far is the bosses have WAY too much life.  It takes forever to kill them.  Not fun.  Also, I hate mayhem modifiers.  On Mayhem 10 they just suck.  I wish they would just remove them, or reduce them.  Not fun.  They do not add anything to the game.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 20, 2020, 08:00:19 PM
I just finished it.  M10, with mostly underpowered lvl 60 weapons.  What a slog. The bosses took so long to kill, they were total bullet sponges.  Worst of the 4 DLCs, but it wasn't terrible.  My favorite part was probably the 3rd zone where you fight loaders a lot.  It reminded me of BL2, so that's probably why I liked it.  Now to get lvl 65 versions of my favorite weapons.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 20, 2020, 11:21:38 PM
I went through with Moze on M10.  If you haven't tried a Ragin' Bear build I think they are great.  A bit underrated IMO.  I spend most of my time in IB which seems appropriate.  There are some new torgue weapons in the DLC that did good damage.  You just have to keep it on Sticky mode.  The gun is underwhelming in the normal mode, but in sticky mode it runs well.  Other than that I mainly used my level 60 Flippers which were still great. 

I hate the timed aiming challenge in the DLC.  Absolutely loathed it, and didn't finish.  Do they not know how much of a pain in the ass it is to aim with a controller.  Again.  NOT FUN.  BL3 does some things really well, but when they miss the mark they really miss the mark.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 21, 2020, 06:20:32 AM
I did all those "signal to noise" challenges, but some were a real PITA.  I took me a few tries to some of them.  You'd probably have better luck with those on the PC.  Your comment about the flipper was similar to what I did.  I used my lvl 60 light show and flipper for about 80% or more of the DLC.  The bosses were just not fun on M10.  Doing the same thing over and over for 10 or 15 minutes while you chip away at health bar just sucks.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 22, 2020, 07:35:47 PM
Holy crap the Hellwaker is really good right now.  It got a big damage buff recently and I just found one so I tried it out.  Yep, it is good.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 24, 2020, 10:42:42 AM
It is tough to keep track of what weapons are good.  I have never really used the Hellwalker before.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: mn4nu on September 26, 2020, 06:54:07 PM
I'm playing through the Krieg DLC again with Flak.  It's so much easier with Flak than with Amara.  I'm using the same weapons as Amara did too, lvl 60 stuff.  I had no problem with the Castle Crimson episode with Flak.  The bosses weren't a problem at all.
Title: Re: Borderlands 3
Post by: Sssith on September 28, 2020, 10:50:13 AM
That is pretty interesting.  Amara has been top dog for so long interesting that I didn't have a tough time using Moze, and you Fl4k, but Amara had issues.