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Title: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on September 29, 2018, 12:36:47 PM
I figured I might as well start a dedicated thread...doesn't hurt.

So the technique I out lined for getting a bee works.  Just not as smoothly as you would hope.  The video I saw talked about an empty Orc village.  Nope.  Full, and worse, there is a mini-boss orc there that was four levels above me.  So you start and run as fast as you can to the platform with the two treants.  Turn around and kill the orcs that come up with you.  The mini-boss can't get up there.  Kill the two trees and rinse and repeat.

On my third run I actually got two Bees.  The first one dropped from the expected target.  I decided to try it out on the mini-boss and it the process of killing him another tree spawn and dropped the second bee.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/948462308416770381/79B61C87062C3D0630AC6795902BFA41D03F4607/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/948462308416771220/3218289BB4D023728B63AC64C917400B9F293B8F/

Not sure which is better as the second has a second higher recharge delay.

Either way I am happy.

I am going to try Jackenstien again.  What a pain in the ass that boss is.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Pixie on September 29, 2018, 03:07:54 PM
I fixed yer thread title.


I am tempted to reinstall BL2. I had soooo much fun playing Gaige.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on September 29, 2018, 05:52:19 PM
Lol.

You mean the character that does not need to aim.  She is fun.

For what it is worth I was finally able to kill Jackenstein.  The Bee was useful but more important was farming for a shield that made me immune to shock.  My killing speed with the Bee is so much better right now.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Pixie on September 29, 2018, 11:30:58 PM
I had the Bee way back before they nerfed it.

It's been so long I don't remember what it was before, but I remember it was stupidly OP.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on September 30, 2018, 05:08:42 PM
I am back to questing.  I would say that the Bee is not OP right now.  It makes the fights doable at this point.

I am level 71 heading into Wildlife Expo.  I am going to run Loot Midgets when I get there.  Also hoping to farm some Tubbies.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Pixie on September 30, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
Yeah, they nerfed the crap out of it. I think I tossed mine afterward, but I don't remember.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on September 30, 2018, 11:32:03 PM
Well I picked up a Lyuda during general questing which was nice.  The Pimpernel works better for my character.  Probably going to have to farm for ones that are my level though.

I have officially hit level 72 so now it is mainly about equipment upgrades.  I would like to finish UVHM with my Siren.  I am in the Wilderness Preserves now.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/948462308423718363/D9CA9D685E824A485121701E57380DC5F700CD7F/
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 01, 2018, 08:50:52 PM
Well I started running Wildlife.  Did two runs, and each run takes me a bit of time at this point.  That said I had some pretty good luck.  I had three Tubbies which netted me Cat Com and the Binder Com.  These are Maya's Unique COMs.  I already have the Legendary Com which is the best of my build.  Also have scored a ton of Ancient Relics see below for the one that I am using.  I am really hoping to find a Bone of the Ancient Corrosive.  As that amps my corrosive damage which Sirens do a ton of and it reduces my action cooldown.  I found a Bone but it was for fire.  I also found my first pearl, see below.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/948462308427672890/5CA5DC9AC7071086DD70A418283A5EA16D746F11/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/948462308427673819/F6B2AA8B193B1CF546BF834682778F85E7807C50/

Need to find out if that Pearl is any good.  Somehow I doubt it.

Also i am going back to Pirate DLC to get more Pimps.  The one that I am using is 12 levels old.  In the name of full disclosure I am going to re-enable the quest that rewards it using a program called Gib (I think).  There is no way in hell I have the time to reset all my progress just to get one weapon.  I would rather not but the weapon I need is not a regular drop.

OMG U D1RTTY H4XX000r!!
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 01, 2018, 09:20:00 PM
If they have a RNG thing connected to you needing to replay the bloody game if you miss out, thats shit.  Especially if that RNG thing is something people will desire vs you get something and it doesn't matter what you get or miss out

but still, lets ban sssith.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 02, 2018, 03:17:03 AM
Given how good the Pimpernel and Sandhawk are, I don't think it necessarily terrible that you need to replay the game to get a fresh reward. However, life is short and replaying the game isn't the sort of farming which appeals to me.

So for combating RNG on the Pimp and other quest rewards, just do a soft reset.

1) Save before you hand the quest in.
2) Back-up that character save.
3) Load the game and hand the quest in, get the item.
4) Transfer the item to a mule.
5) Quit the game.
6) Copy your back-up save back in.
7) Repeat until you're satisfied with the item.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 02, 2018, 03:22:17 AM
I've started working through Tiny Tina's DLC just to get the key farms ready for when I hit level 72. I'm slowly working my way to the point in the DLC where  I can farm the magic missile grenade mod and I have the Bee farm already opened up. I might try for a bee when I hit level 63, just to speed levelling up a bit.

Clearing my way to the final two treants on the other side of the Orc camp, I encountered The Duke of Ork, who proceeded to give me a kicking. His level was obscenely high compared to mine, which probably explains why I couldn't hurt him. Will have to take a screenie if I encounter him again.

Another thing that struck me is that Tiny Tina's DLC is really, REALLY, generous with ammo chests. Which is handy because my Lyuda's go through a lot of ammo.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 02, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
For Zero is the Lyuda better than the Pimp?

The Pimp and Sandhawk are amazing for Maya.  But I have a lot of time put into getting my Maya where she is at.  Really don't have time to waste doing that much of the game again.  I might give your method a try.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 02, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
For Zero is the Lyuda better than the Pimp?

Generally the Pimp is better. It has eight unlisted secondary projectiles so the bore damage potential is huge.
Advantages of the Lyuda are that its easier to farm for and I think has a faster rate of fire.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 02, 2018, 10:02:35 PM
I've now found two pearls, both of them are Beatcats.  And yes they do suck.

Farming the preserve has been very profitable.  At this point I'm looking bone of the ancient corrosive and it hasn't dropped.  Just about every other ancient relic has.

Once it does I'll move on.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 02, 2018, 10:42:35 PM
Well I got my Bone of the Ancients.  Now I need to figure out where to stash all these relics.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 03, 2018, 03:24:47 AM
Well I got my Bone of the Ancients.  Now I need to figure out where to stash all these relics.

Grats! Relic mule I guess. Shame there is no quick way to create mules in BL2. It is a little bit of a hike to Sanctuary to get to Claptraps item transfer.

I managed to get through the Mines of Avarice last night. After an initial tricky start with the Orcs, who I do not like, the rest of the level was a doddle. Even the Badass Iron Golem's seemed to drop pretty swiftly. The Reruc assault rifle was a big help and I wouldn't mind a higher lvl one of those now.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 04, 2018, 09:56:05 AM
I have an Axton and Sav in progress to Sanctuary.  Sav just killed flint.  When I killed boom boom I got the unique grenade mod called Bonus Package.  Thank goodness as killing Flint at that level is actually hard. 

Need to twink some gear off.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 04, 2018, 03:38:26 PM
I wonder if Doc Tenshi ever played this game ..
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 04, 2018, 04:53:35 PM
Who knows if he is even gaming these days.  Anyone in contact with him?

Far as I remember he never really was a member here.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 05, 2018, 03:56:27 AM
He's on Facebook but, he's busy with lots of amazing RL stuff rather than gaming. D-Girl still plays BL2 from time to time.

I did Gettle and Mobbly farming last night as I hit level 64 and my Lyuda's + Reruc were getting underlevelled. I had a few lvl 65 Lyuda's and Reruc's drop and in the course of trying to get lvl 64 items I reached lvl 65, so I stopped at that point. Getting a lvl 64 Reruc drop on the run where I dinged 65.

I've banked all the weapons, as I figure they'll be useful to Salvador, Axton and maybe Kreig at some point. Salvador dual wielding them is going to be a lot of lead flying around.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 05, 2018, 09:45:03 AM
So I just about have Axton to Sanctuary.  Between him and Sal I think I felt more comfortable with Axton.  I probably haven't figured out Gunzerking yet.

I have to say that I miss Maya's Phaselock.  You have so much more control of the action with it.  I think it also made me a bit lazy with aiming.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 06, 2018, 05:09:54 AM
I have to say that I miss Maya's Phaselock.  You have so much more control of the action with it.  I think it also made me a bit lazy with aiming.

Have only just started with Maya but, having obtained her phaselock it does strike me as one of the more powerful abilities, especially at the start of the game.

Being charged down by a Badass Psycho? Not anymore!
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 07, 2018, 12:10:19 AM
So I just finished getting one of each character to Sanctuary.  Of them all I really didn't get Salvador and gunzerking. Krieg seems like a lot of fun, though it is tough to see what is going on when you do the action skill.

Muled all the stuff off of Maya and then finished Bloodwing off.

On the way I got this from some random robot. 

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945085057574757189/8C7E837446D93E7F864909AE8D7EB4EE3773D035/

Now to move on to finishing the story with Maya.

Oh...and for what it is worth the Bone of the Ancients was absolutely worth the time to farm.

Have only just started with Maya but, having obtained her phaselock it does strike me as one of the more powerful abilities, especially at the start of the game.

Just wait until you get converge and cloud kill.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 07, 2018, 05:39:29 AM
On the way I got this from some random robot. 

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945085057574757189/8C7E837446D93E7F864909AE8D7EB4EE3773D035/

Grats!

I cleared my way through the Lair of Infinity Agony last night. That zone is very aptly named. Fuck Skeletal Mages!
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 07, 2018, 10:36:22 AM
I also hate just plain old Skelly Archers.  Damn they hit hard.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 07, 2018, 02:58:16 PM
Salvador with 2 good guns and long gunzerking is good, I can tell you that.  I did the game with Krieg, for a while I did that skill where there is a chance you put your axe into your own head .. however other skills are better.  I still miss Brick.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 07, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Brick is another character that I couldn't get into.  Sometimes it is like that.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 07, 2018, 11:38:43 PM
When the machine guns, shotguns and rocketlaunchers aren't doing enough damage, put them away and just start punching things and do BETTER damage :D  what more is there to understand lol.   Its just so stupid it becomes fun.

going back to a serious character after was hard.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 08, 2018, 03:12:58 AM
Melee Zero, Melee Krieg are both good fun, albeit somewhat challenging.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 08, 2018, 09:54:36 AM
I was doing Dust runs.  Trying to pickup a Hammerbuster.  I would start with Bug Gulch, hoping for some tubbies.  I moved  on to see if the Black Queen spawned.  Kill the two idiots by the church.  Jump down and go to McNally for the Hammerbuster.

Sadly no Hammerbuster.  I did get a Veruc from one of the idiots by the church.  Black Queen spawned a couple times but she did not drop the bazooka that I was looking for.  I got three tubbies and the best drop from them was a Legendary Ninja.

Then I moved on a cleared out Lynchwood, including putting the Sheriff down while using a pistol.  YEEEEHAW!  That whole area is a tough fight at level 72 but my build held up just fine.

I think I will go back to running McNally.  I think this time I just kill him and nothing else. I really want the Hammerbuster, it works as a poor man's Bekah.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Pixie on October 08, 2018, 10:26:17 AM
All Gaige, all the time. Choosing anyone else is just choosing to be inferior.


:D :D :D
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 08, 2018, 02:10:41 PM
I played Gaige the first time through.  I wish I still had that character.  She is a fun character but very weird.  Not sure how the lack of aiming would work in later difficulties.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 09, 2018, 04:42:22 AM
I like the Veruc. Although it doesn't spawn with an elemental effect, it spews out a lot of lead and against large foes with multiple hitboxes it can do a lot of damage. It became my back-up weapon of choice in the Lair of Infinite bloody skeletons.

I got a Bee! I forgot to mention that. It dropped as a level 66 item, so I didn't get a chance to use it in the Lair. I dinged 66 just as I left the Lair, so I tested it with my lvl 65 Lyuda on Sir Tinder Snowflake. FASTEST. RUN. YET! I don't think I got through half my Lyuda's magazine before he dropped.

I decided to have a bit of a play with Salvadore in normal difficulty and see if it was worth doing Tinder Snowflake with him. Went into the DLC with him at lvl 15 (having just rescued Roland) and cleared through. Easily done and Snowflake was an easy enough kill (although I fried myself with my own grenades on the first attempt), made easier with the nice blue fire assault rifle I got as a drop. Although it isn't worth running him for drops (at that level both Tinder and the train provide mostly green stuff) it is a good source of XP and I'm tempted to powerlevel Salvadore that way, then speed run through the rest of Normal diff. Rinse repeat with TVHM.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 09, 2018, 09:12:16 AM
Congrats on the bee.  It has made life a bit easier for me so I am sure you will enjoy.  I would love to get the blockade and one other shield but both require crystals.  So I will start trying to get those.

As for power leveling I am all for it.  I would love to get my characters into UVHM as quickly as possible.  Get them up level to 50 and then speed run through the two earlier modes.

At this point I have gotten my Hammerbuster and I am cleaning up some quests before I push on to finish the game with her.  At that point I might checkout leveling in OP.  Not sure.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 10, 2018, 09:49:22 AM
Using only my hammer buster I went into Opportunity and lay waste to everything.  I was surprised by how effective that gun was.  I did die twice but more from my own carelessness.  I did the statue quest first which is a stupid idea because it drags you across the map.  At one point I can into Jack's body double and all his support so I was basically fighting two battles.  The other was just being stupid by running into an area that spawned stuff all around me, and I almost got out of that one.  Aside from that the hammer buster mopped up the crowd.  Part of it is that robots are easy to hit the critical spots, but the main part is that the gun just hits hard.  It is also super efficient with bullets.

Also went into normal mode and finished a bunch of achievements that were lacking.   Now in the main game the only ones left are blocked by multiplayer and the gunzerking and zero ones.

Lastly in Opportunity I ran into what looks like the corpse of Bloodwing.  WTF is it doing there?

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945085691469881618/4F94186AA9B5E2B7BDB92F168737A8FA68955796/
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 10, 2018, 06:17:36 PM
Did you hear there is going to be a VR version of BL2? But only for Playstation .. and it costs $50 .. and only single player.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 10, 2018, 07:09:29 PM
Yeah...I have heard about that.  They are changing the skills around to make it work.

I can only imagine that they are doing this as part of their ramp up for BL3.  At this point I am much more hopeful for BL3 than D4.  There have been several reports that BL3 is in the localization process and that it will come out some time next year.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 11, 2018, 03:15:47 AM
Lastly in Opportunity I ran into what looks like the corpse of Bloodwing.  WTF is it doing there?

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945085691469881618/4F94186AA9B5E2B7BDB92F168737A8FA68955796/

I've encountered this before. Not sure why its there but, on my first playthrough running into it in Opportunity was a bit of a shock and one I was surprisingly upset by. Fucking Jack.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 11, 2018, 09:42:29 AM
I think I am going to have to kill Jack again.

Mordecai was my main BL1 character so I was not happy with what happened to Bloodwing.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 11, 2018, 10:51:24 AM
Mordecai was my main BL1 character so I was not happy with what happened to Bloodwing.

Ditto!
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 11, 2018, 03:20:12 PM
For me it was another moment of the bad guy trash talking and I wanted it to be over so I could get on with the gameplay. I didnt' really feel anything for bloodwing.  I was super happy when i met the slab king though ..
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 12, 2018, 10:49:50 AM
So I did two things over the last couple of play throughs.  The first is that I farmed a bunch of Hammer Busters.  My goal was to find a Boss with a Jakob grip.  Mission failure.  I did learn that the Horse prefix is actually pretty damn good and I would argue the second best behind the Boss.  Horse gives you the extendened magazine and it goes from 13 to 25 (or something close to that).  That might not sound great but it is actually amazing.  With horse you are able to keep firing and generally clear what ever fight you are in before you can reload at your own pace.  Without it you are going to need to reload during the fight.  Huge difference.  I never did get a Jakobs grip and the one time I got the Boss prefix it was under leveled. 

So these are the variables for the weapon

That is a lot of variables when hunting for a perfect weapon.  In the case of the Hammer Buster I was looking for Jakob grip, Boss (damage) prefix, level to match your current lever (72), Dahl stock, and I don't care about the sights.

The second thing I did was go to the caustic cavern.  I waited until I had the treasure map so I would only have to do this once.  Holy shit this was a tough area.  On the way there I decided to run Savage Lee for an Unkempt Harold as mine was under leveled.  Thank god I did as killing level 72 Crystalists was a huge F*ing pain in my ass.  I had maxed out my money at 99 million before going in.  By the time I was done I was down to 80. 

I still want to run the area for the Blockhead shotgun.  Not sure if I will because this would replace the Harold.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 14, 2018, 02:27:14 PM
I have finished up my Maya lvl 72 UVHM play through.  I gave a try to kill Teramorphous, and that was ridiculous, so I gave up.

I am going to take a small break from her.

I actually got going on Borderlands 1 with Brick.  Punching stuff is fun.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 14, 2018, 05:19:43 PM
I actually got going on Borderlands 1 with Brick.  Punching stuff is fun.

Come into the light brother!

If you and Darkness could ever team up against those raid bosses you'd probably win.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 14, 2018, 06:48:22 PM
I got to the safe house for BL1 and I am completely under leveled.  A bit frustrating, not sure if I will push through.  Need to see how to level up more, as I have done all the missions up to this point.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 15, 2018, 09:44:15 AM
I went back to playing Axton.

I am going to try to streamline leveling.  The goal is to mainly do just the main quests on first and second play through.  I am going to try to level up by doing certain runs.  The target is fifty by the end of TVHM.  At that point I will settle in for a fuller play through.

I will probably play Brick more, when I do I will need to level him more.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 17, 2018, 06:30:30 AM
I went back to playing Axton.

How're you finding him? I quite enjoy Axton, with turret placement and abilities providing a different tactical approach.

I am going to try to streamline leveling.  The goal is to mainly do just the main quests on first and second play through.  I am going to try to level up by doing certain runs.  The target is fifty by the end of TVHM.  At that point I will settle in for a fuller play through..

I think I managed to complete TVHM at level 49. With Axton the final fight with the Warrior I found to be a bit of a pain due to poor weapon choices on my part. I'm not sure I have an optimal build for UVHM as I'm very focused on turrets and probably need to think more about synergies involving grenade damage.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 17, 2018, 09:53:37 AM
It seems to me that, for the most part, Axton's skills are well thought out giving you a lot of choices on how to do the build.  There are a couple must haves like bullet storm, sentry and ready, then you get to branch off in different ways.  You can be a jack of all trades and have good survivability, you can be grenade focused, or you can specialize in turrets.  I am kind of digging the versatility.  In Maya, who I think is pretty well designed, you kind of need to go with Ruin in order to do UVHM.  The comparable skill for Axton is Double Up where your turret gets slag.  But with Axton you can ignore that and use your grenades to take care of the slag for you.

At this point I am leaning toward doing a Double Up, Grenade combo build.  Not really sure but I am liking the idea of having a ton of fireball grenades.  All good choices.  I have also heard that by Axton is the top solo Raid Boss Killer.  Has something to do with using the explosion from Tediore reloads.  Haven't fully looked into that as I find the Raid bosses annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 18, 2018, 12:40:31 PM
I was under the impression that Salvador and Maya were the strongest for boss killing, with Axton being rather weaker but, not as situationally limited as Zer0.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 18, 2018, 02:00:25 PM
Sal is good for Raid bosses because of the grog 'exploit'.  Not a true exploit but pretty close.  As for Maya I don't think she is good for solo Raiding.  Multiplayer she is great to have along because she can boost the whole party.  It is possible that I suck at her and that I am wrong but the problem with Boss and Maya is that Phase lock does nothing, or very little, to them.  A lot of her skills depend on having phase lock up.  The one thing she can do is use a Sandhawk with a bee shield.  That combined with reaper can take down a boss health quickly.  The problem lies in getting a Sandhawk that is the right level. edit -- There is also a COM that boosts SMG damage that is important to have.

As for Axton I don't have all the info but the trick lines in taking advantage of a tediore weapon reload where you throw the weapon on the boss.  He has very fast reload and with the resulting explosion and buffs he can supposedly tear down a boss quickly.  I guess somewhere the is a site that has a record of the best speeds for boss running and that Axton is at the top of those lists.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on October 18, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
The more I hear about you guys grinding and getting the good gear, it makes me compare this to Diablo.  The way I played it was the equivalent of almost a single pass pick up what I find and just be happy with that!  I'm sure the journey would have been easier, if I'd bothered to farm (not easy or fun).
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 18, 2018, 05:07:24 PM
Like D3 (before the expansion) or D2 the real game is UVHM and getting to level 72; and if you really feel tough 0P8.  In order to do that you really do need to farm for gear.  D3, with expansion, makes it really easy to get base line gear.  That said if you want to run the high level GRs you have to go back to grinding for the top end gear.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 18, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Unlike D3, with Bl2 you can target where your gear comes from and that is much more satisfying. I'm doing this area/mob/boss for this item.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 19, 2018, 06:06:24 AM
Went to Opportunity and completed "The man would be Jack" quest, leaving the sidequests for later when I hit lvl 72. I died a lot in Opportunity, there are so many ambushes and its easy to get surrounded by enemies very quickly. I like the design of the zone and its atmosphere so it doesn't annoy me as much as Sawtooth Cauldron does.

After that I cleared the Gobbler DLC, which was surprisingly easy and I had a lot of successful fight for your life returns. The Gobbler was really, really easy to kill but, didn't drop any interesting loot.  By far the hardest part of the DLC are the Grandma Flexington quests, which are a painfully realistic simulation of listening to an elderly relative go on and on and on and on. It did get me to level 67.

I then decided to farm for some higher lvl Lyuda's but, they just weren't dropping. I got a few really nice Veruc upgrades (including elemental ones, which are something I've not seen before) but, I didn't get a Lyuda drop until I was ready to pack in for the night and had nearly gained lvl 68 in the process. It was a nice drop though, corrosive damage as well, which is presently lacking from my Lyuda arsenal. One thing I've noticed doing these runs is, thanks to my gear, they are going so much faster. In some cases as fast as a couple of minutes and sometimes I'll have killed Mobly or Gettle without realising it until after the other one was dead. Which is pretty cool and has the game feeling more like it appears in videos of UVHM players just annihilating everything in their path.

I am giving serious consideration to installing the community path, just for all the gameplay improvements and fixes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxf45ah6ic5m18q/Full%20UCP%20Changelog.txt?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxf45ah6ic5m18q/Full%20UCP%20Changelog.txt?dl=0)
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 19, 2018, 09:52:25 AM
That does seem like some nice improvements.  Though the pimpernel and sandhawk were not given a boss run.

That is tempting.

My Axton is level 22 and only doing the mainline quests.  Need to figure out a good way to get some levels as I am at the same level as my quests.  My list of uncompleted quests is a mile long right now.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 20, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
Though the pimpernel and sandhawk were not given a boss run.

They're insanely good weapons for quest rewards so having them on a boss run seems a trifle excessive when you can farm them repeatedly by backing up your save.

I am enjoying the improved Tunguska Pearlescent I got whilst farming Tinder to lvl 72.

Ding lvl 72!

Farmed my lvl 72 Lyudas. Now farming Bee. Then onto the Pimpernel and Sandhawk!
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 22, 2018, 07:47:27 AM
That does seem like some nice improvements.  Though the pimpernel and sandhawk were not given a boss run.

Apparently they have a 33% chance of dropping from H3RL
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 22, 2018, 09:39:55 AM
Ah...nice.  If I remember correctly it take a bit of work to run to where he is.

So how is the community patch?  Should I switch?

I assume once you switch you can't really go back.  Yes I would back up my characters.

Edit -- My update...I am done with normal mode of Axton.  Onto TVHM.  In many respects The Warrior is a tougher fight at that level. I finished at level 30.  I am now level 36 I think.  I have finished farming Unkempt Harold and a fastball.  I am leveling a bit at Tinder.  Then I am going to make as quick a bee line to UVHM as I can.  I hope to just do the main quests again to get there quickly. 

Generally the expectation is to be at 30 at the end of Normal and then you can't easily go higher than 50 in TVHM.  It is interesting that without doing side quests I was able to get to thirty with only a little of leveling.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 22, 2018, 11:51:26 AM
Question about the CP.  If I use it and play with my Maya can she go back to playing in the regular version.  I am guessing no but it seems like you can switch between the versions so I am curious.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 22, 2018, 12:28:25 PM
You need to activate the CP each time you boot up the game. I'm using BCLMM to install the patches (makes it really easy) and each time I log in I just open the game console and type: exec patch.txt

As far as I can tell, you can switch freely between regular BL2 and the CP version. I know I have done when I've booted the game and forget to enter the patch command.

In terms of gameplay, it doesn't obviously change anything. It doesn't start raining items at you or anything and I've mostly only played Zer0 so far. I do find the changes to Zer0 make him a little more forgiving to play, which is nice. Axton has the most changes so may fiddle around with him tonight.

I've mainly be legendary midget farming (using the mod "No More Orders" as I'd already completed the Doctors Orders quest with Zer0). Had a couple of Pearls drop so far (the Stormfront sniper which is pretty cool and a better Tunguska than the one I already had) plus a few legendaries, including another Bee Shield. I need to start levelling my other characters so they can store more stuff.

The Midget farming goes pretty smoothly, mainly thanks to my arsenal of Pimpernels in each elemental flavour. Very satisfying getting the B0re effect on a Hyperion bot as its spawning in and having it explode before its even finished transforming into combat mode.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 22, 2018, 01:48:30 PM
Thanks.

I think I will join you in the Patch.

I saw the video about the set up and it seems very straight forward.

I will of course back up my characters before start.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 23, 2018, 06:07:30 AM
After quite a few disastrous attempts, I worked out how to solo Son of Crawmerax.  He didn't drop anything nice and nor did his chests but, at least I know its doable. Loot midgets are far more profitable for far less effort.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 23, 2018, 09:48:29 AM
Yeah...it took me three or four times to get the hang of taking him out.  No real place to hide on that one.  Leviathan on the other hand took me a long time to figure out before I found a spot where I could cheese it.  Of course I was around level 58 when I first tried and that level area is really bad for most characters.

I am officially on UCP.  I did a bunch of runs on Tinder and I scored a Legendary Solidier that was +3 for a bunch of skills.  Moving a long at at nice clip.  I finished Bloodshot damn.  I am just going to chase main quest line.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 24, 2018, 05:21:59 AM
Chasing the main questline is the optimal route through NVHM and TVHM, as they're necessary to crack on to UVHM. Aside from using Tinder Snowflake as a levelling tool, there's no reason to do the DLC content until UHVM. Then its a case of using that content for variety.

I tried Murderlin's Temple yesterday.

It's horrible.

If time allows I'm going to finish the Captain Scarlet DLC and have a try at god-b0reing Hyperious to death.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 24, 2018, 09:35:54 AM
I never did that temple.  Sounds like a party.

I decided to do enough of TVHM Pirate DLC to get the Sandhawk and Pimp.  I was a bit under level and I rather do that then some other things I could do to level up a bit.

Aside from that nothing much to report.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 25, 2018, 05:06:14 AM
Despite parts of my PC exploding earlier in the evening, I finished the main story of the Captain Scarlet DLC. The Leviathan fight took me ages, mostly because I didn't read any guides beforehand and was shooting it in the mouth rather than any of its weakspots. Eventually sussed out what I had to do and then it went quickly. I died to a sandworm after the boss was dead which was.....annoying.

Zero loot from the treasure room, which is an unnecessarily annoying bit of platforming.

Still I've unlocked Hyperius now and can have a go at b0reing him to death.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 25, 2018, 09:52:13 AM
Looking forward to how you do against a Raid boss.  Has not gone well for me the couple of times I have tried it.

I got a Pimp and a Sandhawk in TVHM.  My surprise is that I only went up 1.5 levels doing all of that.  Which was a disappointment.  I would like to be higher level going into Wildlife preserve.

Sucks that you had some computer issues.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 25, 2018, 11:05:10 AM
I feel reasonably confident that Hyperius and Pete will be doable solo.

I'm much less convinced about the others.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 25, 2018, 01:58:20 PM
Yup, Hyperius with Zer0 is completely doable. I won't pretend I've perfected a technique yet but, once that godb0re hits, it is all over very quickly and you don't need all four bots up to achieve it.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 25, 2018, 03:11:41 PM
Sweet.  I will have to see how Maya can do against him.  Teramorphous (sp?) was ridiculous.  I am also willing to embrace the idea that I need to suck less at it.

So you started collecting seraph crystals.  I really want to get my hands on a Blockade shield.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Darkness on October 26, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
The antagonist shielf is also an excellent purchase.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 28, 2018, 11:54:47 PM
Closing in on the end of TVHM with Axton.  I ran the Bunker until I hit lvl 49.  Now I am done with Sawtooth and onto Info Stockade.  Need to get me a Lady Finger to boot.

When running Bunker I was hoping to get a Bitch.  No luck. In Sawtooth I had a Legendary Loot Midget drop one for me.  Niiice.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on October 30, 2018, 10:11:21 PM
Well I downed The Guardian mainly using my Bitch.  Moved on to UVHM with my Axton.

Feeling a bit burnt out.  Might take a break.

edit: looks like it took me two weeks to get Axton to UVHM.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 03, 2018, 12:15:39 PM
Rough beginning to UVHM.  Starting to hit my stride as I picked up the Kerboom Blaster and the unique grenade mod from Boom Boom.

Before that it was a lot of death and a slow slog.  The game rewarded me for my perseverance.

All you D3 fans need to come join me in BL.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 06, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
Big sale for Borderlands!  Come join the fun.

My Axton is doing a bit better...level 56 or so.  My next big mission is the rescue of Roland.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Lego on November 06, 2018, 03:58:30 PM
I have the first 2 on PS3 but haven't played them really. I need to get on that. It was just so bloody hard the one time I tried it.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on November 06, 2018, 04:03:09 PM
I did see that.  However I need to do more presequel before I worry about extra levels added to the cap etc.  Plenty of content still to play.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 06, 2018, 05:12:40 PM
Both games can be tough.  In the first it is really important to level as compared to the mission you're on. 

It the second one having the  right build and farming the right equipment will solve most of your problems.  The nice thing is that there almost always is something that you can farm that will help you progress.  It is really important to keep your gear up to the the level your are at.  There are certain weapons/equipment in the game that work while be under leveled, but it most cases you are better off with a white or green than using a blue or orange that is five or more levels to low.

I would also suggest starting with either Maya or Gaige as aim is generally easier with them.  The bad guys actual move and it can be tough to take them down as they move around.  Maya with Phaselock and Converge can get them to sit still for you to hit them.  Gaige with anarchy doesn't really have to aim at all.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: syn on November 06, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
Big sale for Borderlands!  Come join the fun.

i got this (B2) a couple weeks ago after watching this thread for a while. base game, absolutely no idea what mods i should be thinking about. figured i'd play w/o for a while. playing Axton, just over lvl21 or 22. it's a departure from my usual stuff, but having fun for the most part even though i tend to die a lot.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 06, 2018, 06:42:52 PM
Dying is pretty normal.  I have runs where I have died about ten times.  Generally means that your equipment is not good enough or you are under leveled, or your build is not right.

So most mini bosses generally have a drop that is legendary.  If they do, you have a 1 in 10 chance of having it drop when you run them.  I could probably point out a couple runs that would help get you gear.

Axton is a good general character.  Spec'd right he can make most guns work for you.

I would recommend a build like this:
http://bl2skills.com/commando.html#53020100005005010000005000000000

Let me know if you ever want get in a game together.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: syn on November 06, 2018, 06:52:09 PM
absolutely no idea what mods i should be thinking about.

recommendations welcome, seeing as they're all on sale atm.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Pixie on November 06, 2018, 08:03:04 PM
You can die in Borderlands 2? Git gud. :P
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on November 06, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
They will  also be on sale at Xmas again too.

I avoided all cosmetic bs. Extra level packs are good. Tiny tuna is best. Pirate and hammerlock are ok
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 06, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Sorry I missed that.

The Captain Scarlet DLC has two of the best weapons in the game.
The Tiny Tina DLC is the best story DLC.  Adds real depth to some of the characters.  It also has some good loot.
Ultimate Vault Hunter Pack -- Gives access to UVHM mode raises the level cap to 61.
Ultimate Vault Hunter Pack -- Raises the level cap to 71 and gives access to OP levels (I have not done the OP levels yet)
Marcus Mercenary Day has a lootable boss that is great for leveling if you are in Ultra Vault Hunter Mode.

IMO those are the most important ones.  The two Packs I think are only available in separate packs.  I think you can buy Borderlands game of the year version and it will give you all the DLCs and the new characters.  I don't think it gives you the UVH Packs 1 & 2.

If you want to try to get some characters to 72 and experience the end game you need the packs.  If all you want to do is the best part of the story then I would only get the Tiny Tina DLC.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 06, 2018, 09:59:01 PM
Holy crap.

Just buy the Handsome collection.  i think it fucking has everything for 10 bucks.  including the pre sequel. All for 10.97.

I was about to buy the presequel and it cost 11.99  by itself.  So for less money you get fucking everything.

I am kinda pissed as I had bought the game of the year edition not too long ago and I must I have missed that the handsome collection has everything cheaper.  F me.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 08, 2018, 02:51:30 PM
Taking a break from BL2 to do The Pre Sequel (TPS).  Tried out Athena for a bit and now I am giving Nisha a bit of a whirl.  I am enjoying how quickly you can move across the battleground.  Not sure about all the jumping and slamming yet.  Character skills look interesting.  Still too early to tell how the whole thing will go.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on November 08, 2018, 04:08:12 PM
I intend to go back to TPS at some point, some of those areas are just so dull, and if you aren't enjoying the story then its hard to push on, or have the energy to fire it up vs another game. 

And no, I don't think I'll bother farming stuff in it.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 08, 2018, 04:27:06 PM
I am certainly going to finish at least one play through so I get the full story.  So far the change is scenery is nice.  Time will tell what I think of it.  Most people seem to prefer Bl2.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on November 08, 2018, 04:46:50 PM
The Australian accents are painful on my ears. Not all but those ones are bad
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 12, 2018, 09:57:21 AM
I am slowly developing a love hate relationship with The Pre-Sequel.  There are some mission that are just fantastic.  Great pacing, tough and fluid fights, with interesting environments.  There are other parts that are just flat out tedious.  And to Timmeh's point...Did all of Australia relocate to the Pandoran moon?  It seems to me that they went overboard with the Australian accents and colloquialism.  There have been several times when I have had no clue what is being said.

Another fun aspect of the game is you have a bunch of little seeds for things that happen in BL2.  That is actually really fun, but tough to give examples without spoiling some of the fun for those of you that might play it.

I have decided to stick with Nisha.  So far she really seems to kick ass, and I haven't even gotten to one of her main skills yet.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 26, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
Finished playing the first go through of BL:TPS with Nisha.  She was a pretty fun build.  I pretty much went straight down the Riflewoman (http://thepresequel.com/Nisha/0100000000000000000000005501500151) tree.  About as easy a build to do in Borderlands normal.  I died but not a lot.  Much easier than Maya or Axton.

It was good to complete, as it gives a bit of sense of where the game might head in BL3.  It does open up some plot holes between BL1, BL:TPS, and BL2, but these games are never great with how they handle story.

As a whole BL:TPS was better than I was expecting.  It is easy to see why the game is not as good as BL2.  But there are some things that they nail very well.  The main quest line was pretty damn good.  Some good fights that kept you moving and good pacing.  The side quest, on the other hand, mostly sucked.  They also over did all the 'Oz' elements of the game.  I get it, the game was made in Australia and they are rightfully proud.  But they just hammer that point over and over.  Honestly, did everyone from Australia get exiled to the Pandora moon?  All that said I would encourage a play through to anyone who likes the game series as a whole.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Lego on November 26, 2018, 01:02:15 PM
So am I correct in that to get anywhere in these games you have to grind for gear?
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on November 26, 2018, 01:29:11 PM
I did zero griding in normal mode.  Like D2 there is three modes, Normal, True Vault Hunter Mode (TVHM), and Ultimate Valult Hunter Mode (UVHM).  If you want to go into UVHM you will need to get better gear to survive.  And there are specific things that that the classes need/use.  But the game is set up in such a way that you generally know who/what you need to do to get that gear and it is honestly not too grindy.  Now if you want to get the very best gear you will need to grind just like you do in D2/D3 and all these games.  But if you are just aiming to get through to the end of UVHM you can generally get there with a reasonable amount of running bosses/areas.

Honestly I think it is pretty well set up in this regard.  A good example is that in BL2 almost everyone will run Savage Lee to get the Unkempt Harrold.  Now if you want a 'perfect' version of that weapon you have to, unless you get lucky, kill him a thousand times.  Now if your name is Grog that is no problem.  I generally settle for a pretty good version instead.  Now if you want a Twister that is really tough no matter what you do, and that will take some grinding.  Most items are closer to the Savage Lee/Unkempt Harrod example.  Generally a mini boss like him will have a chance to drop a special unique and have a 1 in 10 chance of doing so.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Pixie on November 26, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
So am I correct in that to get anywhere in these games you have to grind for gear?

I never did. I beat the game solo just playing it straight through with no extra grinding.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Timinator on November 26, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
my only grinding was for achievements.  I felt satisfied to have done it all and seen it all, then I didn't want to do it again :P
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on December 01, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Finished Claptrap's Voyage.  Overall it was a pretty good DLC.

Not sure if I am going to level Nisha to UVHM.
Title: Re: Borderlands Sanctuary
Post by: Sssith on December 03, 2018, 10:07:18 AM
Digging around on my back up hard drives I came across my old Borderlands save files.  Opened Gaige up and I am playing her a bit right now.  She is level 44 or so and overall doing pretty well.  While Anarchy is pretty fun I do not like being dependent on all those stacks.