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Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« on: July 19, 2017, 11:27:59 PM »
Thoughts .. anyone played both?  One is free, the other is not (and I don't have yet)

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2017, 11:48:46 PM »
Grim Dawn is the closest thing to Diablo 2 you're gonna get. But with the bonus of the best parts of Titan Quest thrown in. And a really cool post-apoc fantasy world.

Path of Exile has some fans. I found it tedious and boring and bounced hard off the idea that classes are gender locked, something that has no place in gaming any more. It also has the most insanely ridiculous skill tree in the history of forever, with 1300+ skills on it. People who have played it for 100 hours are probably still trying to make sense of it. If that's your bag, though, you might like it.

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 07:04:08 AM »
I have pretty extensive time in Path of Exile and just started Grim Dawn.

Pix is correct, POE's skill tree is daunting.  I can't figure it out, I just follow someone else's build :).  Having said that, it's a fun game and with the expansion coming within the next month or two, it should be very good.  It is expanding from 4 to 10 acts, meaning it's all on one difficulty level.  No more running the same thing 3 times per character.  That will be a nice change

I always thought POE is what D3 should have been.  I was wrong.  Grim Dawn is closer to D2.  Though, while Pixie doesn't like the gender lock in POE, there are only two characters in GD, male or female, so all classes look the same.  There isn't customization in either game (for appearance).

I'd say, if you haven't played POE, give it a shot.  It's free.  Nothing is pay to win, unless you consider extra stash space PTW.  If you play for any length of time, you will want extra stash space.  BTW, GD has an "atma" type external program.  Haven't had to use it yet, but from what I've read it's not as elegant as Atma and Gomule.

Hope this helps.

Slice

Edit:  Forgot to mention, that stash space is shared with all of your characters playing in the same league in POE (softcore, hardcore etc).  Grim Dawn has some shared stash space.

I don't know what the "end game" for GD is, but POE has it's mapping system that will keep you busy and is fairly challenging up to level 100.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2017, 07:13:14 AM by Slice »

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 11:25:32 AM »
I have played both and I am enjoying Grim Dawn much more than I did POE.  Honestly it is a little tricky to pin point exactly why I am enjoying GD more than POE.  It might come down to overall style.  GD is a lot more traditional in what it is doing.  If you have played D2 and TQ then you know what you are getting.  This game is the real successor to those two games.  POE is more innovative in terms of character building than GD.  The huge skill map is very overwhelming but there is a real thought process to how to do it and it does make sense.  That said I only played one time and followed a build in order to do it.  If you are willing to spend some time planning out a build I think you could really do something special. 

Visually the character design of POE is better than GD.  Yes the sex of the character is locked in POE but at least you can tell what your base character is just by looking.  And given the skill tree there is no reason why you can't turn one character into one that is of a neighboring class.  GD character design is hugely lacking IMO.  Everything looks the same and it is a real weakness.  In POE each class has its own feel and that adds to the game.  On the other hand GD environments and monsters are much more interesting and better put together.  Music also is better in GD which is nice.  A point in favor of POE is that there are some areas in the game that have certain mechanics that I found interesting.

Story wise they both kick D3's ass.  That said GD's story (so far) is much more interesting than POE.  There are also bits of history and back ground that you uncover as you play the game.  I know many of you couldn't care less about story but I enjoy it.  It gives the game an added level of immersion when it is cohesive.

D3 kicks both GD and POE in the teeth when it comes to game play.  D3 is just fluid and fast paced, and oozes polish.  Between GD and POE I found GD dawn to play more enjoyably.  I would say that GD and POE is all about the journey where D3 is about the end game.

For me the ranking of the games is GD >> D3 >> POE.  But all three have something fun to offer.  Supposedly there is a new expansion coming for GD, from my vantage point I hope they fix how the character looks.  I want there to be more of a definition between the different types of characters you can play.   
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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2017, 07:22:40 PM »
There are two big things I've noticed between GD and PoE.  One is GD has a major fetish for cooldowns (personally I see cooldowns as a lazy way to artificially raise the difficulty level, but that's just me).  Another is that when playing GD your are just about always behind the game when it comes to character level versus monster level, while in PoE you can easily find yourself 8 - 10 levels higher that the monsters you are fighting; both have there benefits and problems.  Of the two, GD is probably the more intuitive and easier to get your character going for a new player, but PoE, after a complete pain in the arse understanding the game's set up, runs more smoothly.

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 01:18:19 AM »
I installed PoE to give it another shot.

Then I got to the first town and was reminded that it was multiplayer only and town was full of XxX420ForeverDudezXxX characters, and the art is atrocious, and I bailed back out on it.

It's also obtuse as fuck, innit? I leveled up and had a skill point and was looking at the skill tree and... not finding any actual you know... SKILLS on it. Just stat modifiers and such.

I don't know if I'll log back in or not. Still vexed I can't play a female fighter type. Oh sure, I could *eventually* build that way if I start as a witch or ranger, but that's terrible design and also puts the character in an eternal state of being behind the curve.

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2017, 02:19:48 AM »
PoE gets a complete overhaul on the 5th of August.  GGG are getting rid of the Normal/Cruel/Merciless difficulty levels and creating a 10 Act linear game plus a lot of moving of the deckchairs; I've not been too wrapped with what I've seen but if cost nothing so I'll give it a go.  I have heard that GGG are initiating some sort of tutorial, so that might ease the passage for new players a bit.

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2017, 06:27:58 PM »
Pix, I *think* if you make your character "solo self found" you can be alone in town, but don't quote me on that.  It's what I play since it came out several months back.

edit:  Of course I was wrong.  Just logged in a checked.  I keep the chat channel off anyway, so that doesn't bother me.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2017, 06:30:09 PM by Slice »

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Re: Path of Exile vs Grim Dawn
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 04:09:34 PM »
I've only played PoE and you can play it solo if you want, and you can now specify that you are self found so no trading.  To me that isn't an issue with PoE, it can very easily be played solo.  The issues are: 1) the massive skill tree makes charting your path very much a daunting task unless you just follow some predefined path, or wander aimlessly.  The mixture of skill gems + stats + added capabilities from the tree makes for a lot of diversity.  And 2) I play mostly HC, and the game is quite unforgiving of mistakes.  Miss-click and you can be quite dead.  On the plus side the death leaves your character intact but now a SC character.  I mostly just delete the SC ones that get created that way.  The story line is not awful but after the Nth run, like D1, D2, and D3 it's yeah yeah click click to get thru the dialog.  I have never gotten a HC character into cruel and I'm looking forward to see what the big update is going to look like.