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Title: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Reigns on August 13, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Other than fucking Star Wars I mean...
 ::)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 13, 2019, 05:14:37 PM
That Randy Pitchford is a complete A-Hole and that nobody should play Borderlands 3.  But that would also hurt ALL THE GOOD people who worked on the game.  Plus I like Borderlands and I am really looking forward to playing BL3.

SO SCREW YOU HATERS!

That completely has to be the most contentious thing going on right now.  What else could it be?

 :o
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on August 13, 2019, 05:24:50 PM
All the good people could go to companies that don't contain a complete A-Hole and use their talent there.  Its not like they are stuck in an arranged marriage and unable to get out of it.

Also Randy owns Duke Nukem and is basically sitting on the rights.  We need another Duke game, or sell them to someone else who can do something with them.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on August 13, 2019, 05:29:37 PM
Antonio Brown's helmet.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on August 13, 2019, 05:30:22 PM
I've seen all good people turn their heads each day, so satisfied.  I'm on my way.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 13, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
Antonio Brown's helmet.

*snort* 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 13, 2019, 06:51:50 PM
Randy Pitchford *is* an asshole but that's not why you shouldn't buy borderlands 3.

You shouldn't buy Borderlands 3 until it's on a store that isn't complete crap, full of spyware, and built on a policy of anti-consumer bullshit. :D
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on August 13, 2019, 07:10:57 PM
Imagine this, sometime in the 1800s a few things happened there, the British signed a treaty with the local Maori, and not related, certain lands were confiscated from the Maori at the time to be used by colonisers.  a family farmed the land for 150  years, then sold it, and it has been returned to the local Maori.

Those locals negotiated a deal with a large building company to build houses on the land.  40 of these house will be for the local tribe, the rest for private sale. 

A few people who are also the local Maori, but disagree with those that did the deal have occupied the land and are protesting.  No building is happening.  The protest has really gathered steam to the point its own community has taken off, prominent entertainers have turned up and its a bit self sustaining.  There have been other similar occupations of land in the past that have ended in different ways ..  This time everyone is being patient but no one is backing down.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/rnz/ihumatao-land-battle-timeline

One thing is some land confiscated, there is a process where the government talks to the tribers, tries to arrange a deal to compensate them.  Some of them have gotten millions, setup businesses and are using that money to help their communities.  Some of them fight amongst each other over who should do the talking.

When you have one lot who do a deal, then another who say, no thats not good enough, and want more, it could ruin the whole process and everyone who has had a deal will say "ok we want more now too".  Our Prime Minister (who I don't like) first said "I'm not getting involed", then "ok, nothing can happen till there is an agreement where everyone is happy" which helps the protesters. She won't go there though ..

There is a bunch of police who are at the sight making sure the protesters can be there, but not past a point.   

Also one of the locals was abusing a police officer as he looked to be an immigrant "Video has emerged of a protester at Ihumātao telling a police officer to go back to his own country - and she says she is not sorry for the tirade."  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/08/ihumatao-protest-video-shows-protester-racially-abusing-police-officer.html  Some of these protesters have endured a lot of racisim in their time, however they also believe that anything they do could never be racist to others .. wtf?

This will probably go on for months if not years, we will soon leave winter and some described being there as a "Maori Woodstock".  Just a lot of similar people united and supporting each other.

No easy answers
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on August 13, 2019, 07:13:28 PM
Randy Pitchford *is* an asshole but that's not why you shouldn't buy borderlands 3.

You shouldn't buy Borderlands 3 until it's on a store that isn't complete crap, full of spyware, and built on a policy of anti-consumer bullshit. :D

I'm going on both of those actually.  When its on a non shit store, I won't buy on Day 1. I'll wait till the game and all DLC with achievements has a decent discount.  Also part of my reasoning is I've had pre-sequel for a few years and I'm yet to push on.  I'm sure BL3 will be a game I play and complete *one day*.  But 2020 won't be that year.  I'm guessing maybe 2022.  Will be out of study, have cleared some other backlog including presequel and BL1 remastered.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 23, 2019, 09:24:22 AM
spiderman leaving the MCU...
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 23, 2019, 09:42:56 AM
spiderman leaving the MCU...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECfu6WIU8AE5Hp5?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on October 08, 2019, 08:31:14 PM
seems like a lot of organizations having trouble with HK/China these days. blizzard's joined the club.

Blizzard Entertainment Bans Esports Player After Pro-Hong Kong Comments (https://www.npr.org/2019/10/08/768245386/blizzard-entertainment-bans-esports-player-after-pro-hong-kong-comments?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwAR38_-CC4qjY5bRyhTuqs_IrKhmXqPaWXG7myt8OFHIYRIDty-bOcttHVmA)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on October 09, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
Fuck Blizzard and fuck companies that do this.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on October 09, 2019, 11:53:24 AM
I don't see how politics and gaming mix at all, but obviously some people feel very strongly about whatever the hell's going on over there.  Fine, ban him if he pissed you off, if he's saying things you don't like or agree with.  I really don't care.  But taking away the prize money he'd won is going too far.  They can cite the fine print all they want; it's still a fucked-up thing to do.  I have no idea how they would not realize what a horrible PR problem this would cause.

So people are (supposedly) uninstalling Blizzard games and swearing to never buy another Blizzard product.  Cool.  Vote with your wallet.  That's the American Way.  The only game I play is D3 and I've already paid for it, and Battle.net is still free, so every minute I play D3, I'm getting more for free.  If people bail, maybe that'll mean less lag for me.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on October 09, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
Interesting article about the NBA and this issue. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/business/nba-china-hong-kong-explainer/index.html
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on October 12, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
blizzard backed down (for the most part) (https://www.npr.org/2019/10/11/769362193/blizzard-entertainment-faces-public-backlash-following-esports-player-ban?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR04smpV5qgplwLbnfBp9K_6GYlKllw-RuE-Tc49nHRhXLVxI0ycmcsIkDY). seems like there was more of a backlash than they expected.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on October 13, 2019, 06:25:51 PM
If they didn't expect armageddon-level Internet backlash, they weren't paying attention.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on October 13, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
Probably advised by the diablo marketing team
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on October 14, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
Don't those guys have phones?
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Silverthorn on October 15, 2019, 01:38:08 AM
Yep
(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/vintage-old-telephone-binoculars-conceptual-260nw-151125308.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on January 29, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3ea060f607e674d082819e5ff33c38ea/tenor.gif?itemid=11491135)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 27, 2020, 07:00:51 AM
last night, a few miles away.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY_zweIXgAAlcCH?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 27, 2020, 07:04:14 AM
the above was a response to a protest after the police killed a man during an arrest (https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/minneapolis-police-fired-george-floyd-192604821.html) by taking a knee on his neck for 5 minutes.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/O3hxu87072XpZqLuaKBmhA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/_JRd5B8cpZFWklEpoHNa6g--~B/dz0wO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5ecd2456220000ef1b829644.png)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 27, 2020, 07:47:21 AM
It's been a bad run for Twin Cities police the last few years.  This killing, the Australian-American lady in 2017, the guy in his car in 2016...
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 27, 2020, 10:25:46 AM
All that is really sad. 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Silverthorn on May 27, 2020, 11:46:20 PM
It's the nonchalant way the cop keeps his hand in his pocket while kneeling on someone's neck that got me yesterday when seeing the video and now in this picture. It creeps me out.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 05:00:13 PM
Riots in Minneapolis for the second night last night. started again around 2pm this afternoon at several places in Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Bunch of businesses closing early and boarding up. We closed early today. Sitting in my backyard listening to a consistent stream of sirens. :(
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 28, 2020, 05:18:59 PM
I gotta say, I sure hope all this ends Amy Klobuchar's career as a big fat spotlight is shone on her prosecutorial record in Minneapolis and her refusal to prosecute cops... including Derick Chauvin himself.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 05:25:27 PM
Yeah that ship has sailed. 

Edit: she may be able to hold onto her senate seat but she’s done as a potential VP candidate.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 06:17:42 PM
It's the nonchalant way the cop keeps his hand in his pocket while kneeling on someone's neck that got me yesterday when seeing the video and now in this picture. It creeps me out.

Unlikely he’ll get away with the classic “I used deadly force because I was afraid for my life” defense, I suppose.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 28, 2020, 10:43:50 PM
building on fire below is the 3rd precinct police station in south minneapolis. pic is from about 20 mins ago; UTD video shows it's gonna burn to the ground. no fire dept response due to the crowd. police withdrew.

(https://stmedia.stimg.co/1afirenew052920.PNG?auto=compress&crop=faces&dpr=1&w=638&h=425&fit=fill&fill=solid&fill-color=e8e8e8)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJznh6XYAEfWGK?format=jpg&name=small)


Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 10:44:23 AM
That is insane.

There needs to be accountability with all of our police forces.  Not sure this is going to help but I do understand the frustration.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 29, 2020, 01:12:01 PM
I see that the the cop who killed Floyd was arrested.  Why he wasn't arrested days ago is beyond me.  Now what are they going to do about the other 3 officers who did nothing to stop it? 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
All four of them are culpable in some form. 
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 29, 2020, 01:36:48 PM
hennepin county attorney charged chauvin with murder and manslaughter. says his office is looking at charges for the other three as well but isn't ready to move on those yet. from his tone during the presser, seemed clear that something's on the way for them.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 29, 2020, 01:41:18 PM
3rd degree murder. That's a max of 25, but probably a lot less.  I call BS.

3rd degree is "without intent"... fuck that.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
I would like to see 2nd degree.  I think we will be lucky to get manslaughter.

Until there is consequence of this behavior this will not change.  There are many good cops doing a tough job out there.  But all cops should want this to stop and it won't until they as a group stop protecting cops that are out of control.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 29, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
If you have 1,000 good cops, and you have 10 bad cops, but the 1,000 good cops don't do anything about the 10 bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 29, 2020, 02:53:44 PM
I am not going to argue that point.  They are a large obstacle to address this issue.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 29, 2020, 03:20:28 PM
Chauvin needs to have someone kneel on his neck for 9 minutes.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 29, 2020, 03:39:34 PM
Well, assuming he goes to prison, at least there's the small consolation that he will be very unpopular there and probably live a very scared life.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 30, 2020, 09:24:56 PM
Helicopters, sirens, smoke and firework noise or something similar. Cities closed the interstates at 7 and curfew started at 8 but it’s getting louder.

Edit: my wife’s been in the basement watching tv with the kids and she can hear the helicopters from down there. Around a thousand people trying to cross the lake st to Marshall ave bridge from Minneapolis to Saint Paul which is about 4 blocks south of us. Just had a rush of vehicles down the street at the end of our block en route to the bridge. Probably won’t get much sleep tonight.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on May 30, 2020, 09:37:20 PM
Helicopters, sirens, smoke and firework noise or something similar. Cities closed the interstates at 7 and curfew started at 8 but it’s getting louder.

 Stay safe!
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on May 30, 2020, 09:45:20 PM
Police used tear gas, seems like they kept the crowd on the Minneapolis side of the river. A lot quieter now.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on May 30, 2020, 11:07:28 PM
Barr says it's far left groups causing all the problems.  He makes me sick.  Worst Attorney General ever!
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on June 02, 2020, 02:59:34 PM
Barr's just trying to keep up with the pace set by President Dipshit.

(https://forums.talkingpointsmemo.com/uploads/default/optimized/4X/a/1/e/a1e41d72c58e21f4bf1a322eff51ec5db4f1a6ba_2_605x500.jpeg)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on June 02, 2020, 06:10:33 PM
That was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.  Whoever thinks he's a religious man is an idiot.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on June 02, 2020, 06:19:02 PM
fun fact: clergy from the church he posed in front of were among the people he tear gassed on his way there.

edit: i misread, the clergy that got gassed were visiting from a sister parish (st.paul georgetown), not from the church in question (st.paul lafayette). completely different.  :o
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on June 02, 2020, 06:22:30 PM
fun fact: clergy from the church he posed in front of were among the people he tear gassed on his way there.
He's such an ass.  I was listening to the pastor of that church last night on CNN and she was really upset about the whole thing.  Plus Trump has managed to piss off the Catholics today too.  Maybe he's trying to offend a different faith every day.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on June 03, 2020, 01:29:57 PM
Ellison (state AG) is upgrading the charge against Chauvin to second degree murder. Things have been quieter the last couple nights. Curfew is officially over tho Walz is expected to extend it one more night.* Plywood’s coming off storefronts in the area where I work.

*extended for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on June 03, 2020, 04:19:12 PM
I see the other 3 officers have been charged now too.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on June 03, 2020, 04:57:45 PM
My county is on curfew.  If they are going to do that then they better look at reform of local cops.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on June 03, 2020, 05:04:42 PM
Police brutality doesn't have a bedtime. Why should protesters?
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Dust on June 04, 2020, 10:05:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/nxhLYOC.png)

I mean, it's a tweet, on the internet. Where exaggeration lives.

But even I'm surprised that this is more than just a little believable, and I'm cynical for a living.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on June 04, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
I love how that is what they are concerned about.  Not the reason why such groups exist.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Dust on June 04, 2020, 01:16:37 PM
Which is true, but the focus here for me is;

There is only one group who would criminalise anti-fascist views. If you believe this tweet, that group is issuing directions from the White House.

I'm not convinced the world is actually there yet, but I was shocked that I could even find such a thought plausible.

Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on June 04, 2020, 03:16:25 PM
John Oliver on police misconduct. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaD84DTGULo)

The depressing thing is that this is four years old.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 11, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
So it’s Harris for VP. Not a huge surprise, seems like a solid choice.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on August 11, 2020, 07:30:57 PM
I like the pick.  I agree it is not a big surprise.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 12, 2020, 10:57:49 AM
Safe choice.  Very similar to Biden.  Not my favorite but it wasn't like the pick was aimed at me anyway.  I am at the bottom of his concern.  White, male, living in California.  Hopefully this energizes people to get out to vote if other areas.  The one thing she lacks is that she is not from a contested state.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on August 12, 2020, 12:17:02 PM
I love how the Trump campaign is trying to paint her as the most liberal senator.  I think Bernie and Elizabeth Warren had to be chuckling at that.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 12, 2020, 12:29:21 PM
Yeah, she is pretty conservative compared to many.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 12, 2020, 04:23:31 PM
She has one of the most liberal senate voting records there is. Not really "very similar" to Biden at all. ;)

It's a solid and safe pick. Neither Biden nor Harris were in my top dem choices, but it's the ticket I have and it's the ticket I'll take.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 13, 2020, 04:00:30 PM
Just as a side note I do know many people here in California and particularly in Oakland, who are less than thrilled by Harris.  She has a history of backing law enforcement and the police.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on August 13, 2020, 04:31:39 PM
She could have a history of killing puppies, and I'd still vote for any ticket she's on over our incompetent incumbent.



Okay, fine, I'm a cat person and not a dog person, but that's really not the point.  Joe could've picked literally anyone and I'd still vote for him.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 13, 2020, 05:15:39 PM
Just as a side note I do know many people here in California and particularly in Oakland, who are less than thrilled by Harris.  She has a history of backing law enforcement and the police.

Considering the backlash against “defund the police”, this may not be the worst thing in the world. I’m all in on beat Trump first and worry about other things later.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 13, 2020, 05:29:03 PM
Just as a side note I do know many people here in California and particularly in Oakland, who are less than thrilled by Harris.  She has a history of backing law enforcement and the police.

That is hugely overblown, from my understanding. It was also quite a while ago, and she has expressed considerably different views more recently.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 13, 2020, 06:21:20 PM
My source is black people in Oakland, though I certainly haven't polled all of them.  :P  And of course she is a politician so she will say what is expedient.  I would have preferred someone else but I am ok with her.  Biden could have chosen Sarah Palin and I would still vote for him.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 13, 2020, 07:50:48 PM
My source is black people in Oakland, though I certainly haven't polled all of them.  :P  And of course she is a politician so she will say what is expedient.  I would have preferred someone else but I am ok with her.  Biden could have chosen Sarah Palin and I would still vote for him.

You'll have to back up a claim that she's just saying "what is expedient"...

If you mean that she's going the way the wind blows, regardless of how she personally might  feel, then... well, good. That's what a politician is supposed to do: represent the will of the voters, not themselves, and if the will of her constituents is (A) and she votes (A) but feels (B) then she's doing her job exactly as she's supposed to.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 13, 2020, 07:52:54 PM
Also, she's going to be president in 2024, so better get used to her. :P
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 14, 2020, 10:26:20 AM
https://reason.com/2020/08/12/once-again-kamala-harris-record-as-a-prosecutor-was-less-than-progressive/

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/08/13/kamala-harris-abysmal-record-on-justice-issues/

It is pretty well documented. Cherry pick what you want, but my point is that I know plenty of people here in her home state that are less than thrilled.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 14, 2020, 01:35:42 PM
Cool but that doesn't address my point.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 14, 2020, 01:52:17 PM
I do think you are missing mine.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on August 14, 2020, 02:55:38 PM
I don't think so.  ;)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 14, 2020, 04:26:20 PM
Oh you win. :roll:

This is not even an arguement.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Cluck Kent on August 15, 2020, 08:35:40 AM
Don't quit now, I really felt I was learning something there...
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on August 15, 2020, 08:48:28 AM
Don't quit now, I really felt I was learning something there...
lol
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 20, 2020, 08:11:54 AM
interesting op/ed on harris's positioning. (https://www.michigandaily.com/section/opinion/op-ed-kamala-harris-progressive-choice-vp) cites a few studies of her voting record as well. 

Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on January 21, 2021, 05:30:00 PM
House prices went up 20% here last year.  Wages were a shitload less.

Today this was a real headline: Labour announces that it will make more housing announcements this year https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/124016058/labour-announces-that-it-will-make-more-housing-announcements-this-year

They are too scared of the existing landlords so they are screwing over everyone else.  Share values can go up and down, but not property. wtf
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on February 18, 2021, 06:34:35 PM
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Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on February 19, 2021, 10:40:46 AM
It is amazing that he thought that was a good idea.  Just no concept of leadership.  And then to blame his kids.  Not that we had any doubt about what type of person he is.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on February 19, 2021, 04:41:08 PM
He's a scumbag.  He's always been a scumbag.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: maxbeedo on February 20, 2021, 04:31:27 PM
After this hell of a week in Texas all the leaders want to point the blame at others.  Our senators, the governor, the mayors, everyone, when all anyone really cares about is things getting fixed.  For the most part, things did get fixed, although there are still ~160000 people without power now (there were 4+ million, including myself and most of my family in the area).  We still have to boil water because the water treatment plants also lost power for several days (why aren't these "essential"?).

It was sad to hear about various "heating stations" being opened up throughout the area in convention centers and libraries by the cities, and guess what their hours were?  7am-7pm.  Right, that'll help, closing by dark, when it got down to -2F, the coldest since 1899.  At least when the Salvation Army set up their own stations theirs were open 24 hours, because they know what they're doing.  Considering the scale of the problems it could've gone much worse, and now maybe they'll finally weather-proof the power generators throughout the area after apparently turning down the recommendation about 10 years ago.  It only takes a "once in a generation" storm to really change the worst case scenario, and anyone involved in the previous decision should be ousted, but everyone in charge will try to deflect presumed blame by pointing their fingers first.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on April 01, 2021, 09:58:24 PM
Chauvin Defense Team Praises Officer’s Restraint In Not Killing Bystanders (https://www.theonion.com/chauvin-defense-team-praises-officer-s-restraint-in-not-1846599521?rev=1617298675350)

watched some of the trial over the past couple days. this seems accurate.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on April 02, 2021, 10:47:57 AM
Damn, The Onion is completely ruthless sometimes!

I approve.   ;D
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on April 02, 2021, 11:08:47 AM
Yes.  They really lower the hammer at times.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Silverthorn on April 03, 2021, 02:14:24 PM
I resemble that comment!
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on April 12, 2021, 07:05:29 PM
another curfew in the twin cities tonight after a cop got mixed up between their taser and their gun yesterday (https://www.minnpost.com/glean/2021/04/brooklyn-center-police-chief-says-officer-who-fired-fatal-shot-intended-to-use-taser-curfews-declared-in-twin-cities/) and killed a guy.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on April 12, 2021, 07:09:20 PM
That seems like bs.  I was always under the impression that taser guns were holstered in a different way and felt differently in the grip.  Specifically to avoid such a confusion.

Just awful.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on April 12, 2021, 07:56:28 PM
Complete negligence on the part of the officer.  I wonder if she'll be charged with some type of manslaughter.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on April 13, 2021, 11:18:36 AM
Differences between a gun a taser: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/13/us/daunte-wright-taser-gun.html
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on April 13, 2021, 12:10:36 PM
Yep, they not only look and feel different, but are holstered on opposite sides, all to help "confusing" the two (if that's indeed what happened).

Edit.  Incorrect information (thanks, Facebook!) removed.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on April 13, 2021, 03:52:08 PM
Minorities get pulled over for such BS reasons.

(https://i.imgur.com/t6wuUUL.jpeg)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on April 13, 2021, 04:01:04 PM
We should at least keep the facts straight, because doing otherwise plays into bullshit narratives that weaken the case against asshole cops.

He did not get pulled over for an air freshener. He got pulled over for an expired license plate.

(ok, truthfully, he got pulled over for driving while black, but you know what I mean)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Orbert on April 13, 2021, 05:14:54 PM
Sorry.  That's what I get for trusting social media.  I've edited my post, because there's already too much bullshit in this world; I don't mean to add to it.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on April 13, 2021, 06:29:04 PM
another curfew today. they conveniently waited til 4pm to announce it.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on April 14, 2021, 07:34:22 PM
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Someone in SW Mpls called the cops on the armed National Guard personnel. Do I laugh or cry?
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on April 20, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
Verdict on Chauven coming in an hour. Everyplace around where I work has plywood up. Here’s hoping it’s not needed.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on April 20, 2021, 04:54:06 PM
Guilty on all three charges.  Now we can expect an appeal.  Still, it is very good news.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: mn4nu on April 21, 2021, 04:35:42 PM
I watched some Fox News yesterday after the verdict just to get the perspective from the other side.  I had to turn it off after about 15 minutes.  All they were talking about was how there is America isn't racist, there's no systemic racism in America, white people aren't racist, etc, etc... It was disgusting.  Of course all the people saying this were white.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Pixie on April 21, 2021, 05:13:36 PM
I watched some Fox News yesterday after the verdict just to get the perspective from the other side.  I had to turn it off after about 15 minutes.  All they were talking about was how there is America isn't racist, there's no systemic racism in America, white people aren't racist, etc, etc... It was disgusting.  Of course all the people saying this were white.

yeah there's some gross-ass shit coming from the right...
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on May 03, 2021, 05:06:48 PM
US Health Care vs Grand Theft Auto (https://i.imgur.com/x2XEej2.mp4)
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on July 08, 2021, 12:04:11 AM
This is fucking bullshit
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/125691812/wellingtons-redhot-housing-market-records-third-fastest-price-rise-in-the-world

any rise in incomes is a tiny fraction compared to housing costs
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on July 14, 2021, 11:35:12 AM
Housing costs are a massive problem it most places these days. A true problem.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Timinator on July 14, 2021, 03:05:18 PM
Housing costs are a massive problem it most places these days. A true problem.

Here is another way to view it, the red/blue is for which political party is in power at the time.  FYI here red is centre left, blue is centre right.   When viewed this way its absolutely stupid.  I know people whose houses make twice as much money than they do in income.

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Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 05, 2021, 10:24:56 AM
"vaccine hesitancy".  stupid motherfuckers.

https://www.tiktok.com/@jarretberenstein/video/6989929943501245701
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: Sssith on August 05, 2021, 10:45:37 AM
Sadly that is funny.  Stupid mF*ers.
Title: Re: What's the most contentious thing that people are arguing about now?
Post by: syn on August 05, 2021, 11:16:04 AM
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), whose state is experiencing record COVID hospitalizations, to President Biden: “Why don’t you do your job? Why don't you get this border secure? And until you do that, I don’t wanna hear a blip about COVID from you, thank you.”

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