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Title: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on April 16, 2017, 04:36:33 PM
Looks like we don't yet have a thread for general gaming updates.

I grabbed a second hand Wii U yesterday for... reasons.  I only have Mario Kart 8 right now which is an absolute blast, but there are a few other games I definitely want to pick up - Breath of the Wild for one.

Most of my time right now however is spent playing Witcher 3.  I'm only about 20 or so hours in, but this is an absolutely engrossing game.  I can't think off hand of an open world RPG I've enjoyed more and I know I'm probably not even 10% through it because I'm really taking my time with it.  It probably helps that I read all 7 novels before starting playing so I'm really invested in the world.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on April 17, 2017, 01:18:21 PM
I really want to find the time to get into Witcher.  I tried playing the first one recently but it is pretty dated.  Might preserve with it on the easiest setting to get through it.

Right now I am mostly playing ME:A which I will be posting about somewhere else.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on April 17, 2017, 02:28:30 PM
The problem with The Witcher is... the witcher. As in, Geralt. The world and everything else about the series is great but Geralt is an absolute tool of a character. He's flat, uninteresting, even downright boring. It's just a chore to play as him. He has zero redeeming/interesting qualities.

Give me the same series with a better protagonist and I would play the shit out of it.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on April 17, 2017, 04:09:38 PM
I think that is a problem with the way the game is portraying him.  Or worse still, the fact the game is giving you choice and thus can't give Geralt a character.  From the books, he is a character with a lot of nuance, but book Geralt would resolve many of the quest options in a particular way.

I would argue the criticism could be levelled at most western RPGs though, but the fact you can't customise the looks of Geralt in the same way you can a character in something like Mass Effect makes it feel more like Shephard is you than Geralt is you.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on April 17, 2017, 04:32:05 PM
I can't customize Aloy, or Lara, or Nilin, or any of a hundred other characters and they manage to be interesting and demonstrate growth and development and have personalities... none of which Geralt manages to do.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on April 18, 2017, 01:53:39 AM
I only recognize Lara from that list but that doesn't appear to me a fair comparison. They could write Lara's script in it's entirety knowing you would play that out and can't deviate. In the Witcher Geralts character and choices are left in the hands of the player. He's closer to Shepherd or the Inquisitor in that regard, and I would argue those are equally characterless.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on April 22, 2017, 09:34:12 PM
Been playing World of Final Fantasy.  It's pretty average for the most part, with relatively boring turn-based combat (not as strategic as it could be), although I'm starting to where they put effort into the game.  For the most part it's a Pokemon/Ni-No-Kuni clone with Final Fantasy characters, though since it was designed by Tetsuya Nomura the backstory is ridiculous and crazy ala Kingdom Hearts.  Thankfully, whoever did the translation/writing of the textual information in the game did an amazing job of not only making it sound interesting, but making it funny.    The voiced dialogue is nothing special and the new characters are uninteresting at best, and terribly annoying at worst, but they did make an effort to bring back the original voice actors for the FF characters and they do a fine job.

Here's an example of some of the writing:
"Maybe you've heard the expression the conductor used - 'peachy keen'- once or twice before.  Did you know where it comes from though?  About fifty years ago, 'keen' was another word for 'cool.'  And fifty years before that, folks called cool things 'peachy.'  Makes you wonder if people a century from now will be saying things like 'phat diggity' or 'totes bodacious' or 'carpe YOLO." (cringe) Let's just hope we're not around to see the worst of the fallout."

"Shiva tried to march right on home once she saw that Sherlotta and Refia weren't accompanied by a cadre of hunky guys--but what exactly would she have done if there were men present?  Freeze 'em up and use 'em to decorate her room?  Does she have an icebox somewhere filled with frozen beefcake?"
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: lemming on May 03, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
no more steam inventory gifts (http://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1301948399254001159)

Can't say I like this.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 03, 2017, 10:51:29 PM
Yeah, they've done fucked steam gifting up haaaaard.  No more stockpiling your inventory full of games during a sale to give away later. Ugh.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 04, 2017, 03:31:01 AM
Ok, so it means you have to know WHO you are giving it to as you gift?  I'm not quite sure I'm over all the details.  I've done a bit of this but not much, so possibly out of the loop here.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 06, 2017, 01:07:21 AM
Picked up a bunch of games.  Abzu and Tales from the Borderlands were the free games on PS+ this month which I've heard good things about.  There was also a sale on I Am Setsuna, Valkyria Chronicles Remastered, and Nier:Automata so I picked those up.  Now to decide what to play first.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on May 09, 2017, 01:54:28 PM
Nier: Automata is definitely a game I'm going to grab at some future point.  I loved Valkyria Chronicles so hope you enjoy it too!

I'm now 55 hours into Witcher 3 and still exploring the first area outside the tutorial.  I think this may be my favourite open world RPG of all time.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 09, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
Still making my way through ME:A.  Enjoyable enough so far.  When done I will try to compile my thoughts.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 09, 2017, 05:16:13 PM
I lost it somewhere in ME:A. I'm a bit heartbroken about it, but it just... got boring. I still plug away at it here and there though.

I need to get back to NieR but my 360 controller is on the fritz so I'm waiting until I can buy a new one.

In the meantime, I'm back to playing (modding) Fallout 4. Playing a STR build, all melee and big guns. A "Wounding Minigun" is loltastically broken.

Also, the new Prey is freaking amazing. By all accounts, it's basically System Shock 3 but since I never played 1 or 2, I can't vouch for that.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 13, 2017, 01:18:28 AM
Finished Tales from the Borderlands.  Overall pretty good, although that's mostly because I recognized almost all of the voice actors and are some of my favorites.  First time playing a Telltale game and I definitely won't play any others though (would never have played this one if it wasn't free), since I favor mechanics and their stuff barely count as games.

Started I Am Setsuna.  A few interesting gameplay mechanics, but also some really bad design philosophies and misleading tips.  Got into a battle where one character had story-wise become a lot more powerful, so I switch them into the party, and they're 4 levels lower than the rest of my party, with only 1 ability that did nothing special to the boss, and when the boss died he did a dying AoE attack that one-shotted that character which resulted in a game over even though he wasn't a main character, other characters survived, and nothing in the description suggested he needed to be protected for that battle (when it was optional for me to use him anyway).  I lost 2.5 hours of progress, since there are no auto-saves, no inns, and no save points in most areas.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 13, 2017, 07:55:35 AM
I favor mechanics and their stuff barely count as games.

Insert epic eyeroll here.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 13, 2017, 10:20:18 AM
Hey...I think he is entitled to be wrong...no need to roll your eyes at him.  :P  <-- I need a better tongue in cheek emoji. :)

BTW max, the best game in Tell Tales arsenal is Walking Dead.  It is also more 'gamey' than there other ones.  And yes, the game mechanics are rather more simple, but it is still a game.  It is obviously about the story immersion that those games achieve that makes them notable. Walking Dead is probably in my top five games that I have played this decade.  Not every game can be ME:2, that has a great story and in depth game mechanics.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 13, 2017, 12:32:19 PM
There's a particular mental itch I need to scratch with mechanics, something I can dive into and absorb so my brain will finally stop thinking about work or other annoying things.  I would be surprised if any of you didn't understand that considering our shared obsession with Diablo 2, unless you're the opposite and "slogged" through the gameplay just to finish the story (if so then hats off to you because that's quite a slog comparably).  Playing a Telltale game is essentially like watching a good movie but one that turns off every few minutes unless you hit a random button on the screen.  Or, if you prefer, the story and voice acting is way out of proportion better than the "game" around it, which other series have problems with sometimes too (Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted, Bioshock, etc.).  They're still games I'm happy to "have played" when I'm done, but I don't get a lot of enjoyment "during" them and will never go back to.  If there is no effort put into designing the gameplay, there's a certain cutoff point at which I'd rather it just be a movie. 

I would be hyped for a Borderlands 3 with the same characters though. 

Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 13, 2017, 02:55:48 PM
Sounds like the problem is with you, not with the definition of what counts as a game. ;)
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 13, 2017, 09:59:02 PM
What is your definition then? 
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 14, 2017, 05:39:19 AM
From what you read, it sounds like just being immersed to forget about "real life dramas".  A shame the breaks get in the way for you. Some people really get into the dialog, the puzzles etc, and try to think about all the possible paths, and how they would try to do something different next time.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 15, 2017, 12:09:52 AM
When Steam trading cards first came out, I got a foil for Half life 2.  I could have sold it for $17 but didn't .. something about it seeming so shiny and rare.   Some years later I decided to finally get the other 7 cards.  I've acquired 6 more and have sold some other cards from booster packs.  The price to buy has seemed just out of reach.  Recently I've managed to get a few sales, but as other ones sell, it seems the price is still just out of reach which is quite annoying!

I now have $1.45 NZ, but need $1.52.

I see others have sold recently for $1.34, $1.35, $1.37, $1.39!!

Call me obsessed but I must have it!
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 15, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
Bitching always works, I wake up and my buy order at a lower price went through.  I have 11 cents to spare :D
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Lego on May 15, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
I got talked out of selling my xbox one out of spite, but I'm still dismayed at the recent "story based games have no place here" comments :(
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 15, 2017, 08:08:05 PM
I got talked out of selling my xbox one out of spite, but I'm still dismayed at the recent "story based games have no place here" comments :(

I think thats going a bit far, he is just saying it doesn't float his boat, and its only one person.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: narsica on May 16, 2017, 12:04:07 AM
Telltale games look boring as shit.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Lego on May 16, 2017, 06:08:40 AM
Telltale games look boring as shit.


Thanks Tim. That's actually good news.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 16, 2017, 06:56:54 AM
The telltale sign its from an angry Canadian is it says "Narsica" next to the post, not my name.  I've had some fun .. haven't actually finished one yet (started 3 different ones so far)
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Lego on May 16, 2017, 07:31:44 AM
Oh man I LOVED the Telltale Walking Dead games. The plots and branching storylines were awesome.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on May 16, 2017, 09:29:43 AM
TBF, I don't mind "narrative" games (loved Gone home, Heavy Rain mixed tedious and absolutely brilliant, Beyond : Two Souls was a disaster) but Walking Dead was just quite poor I found. The thing with narrative games is that they're only just as strong as their story, and WD felt like a collection of overplayed zombie clichés, only decent chapter was the one with the farm which had a reasonably original twist.

Branching is an illusion : none of the choices have any lasting impact whatsoever, you largely have the same chars dying in the same situations, you will switch which char dies to situation A and which to situation B. Choices with no consequences are no choices at all (recent major disappointment on this topic : Quantum Break). While it is obviously still limited, I LOVED how Heavy Rain dealt with this situation and had extremely interesting replay value, if you didn't get to play it and you do like narrative games, it has its (big) defaults, but deals with some of these aspects better than any game I've seen; go play it.

And I've heard they have cut out those parts since in other games, that WD was the first and they were still unsure they wanted to ditch the point & click heritage, but the very little gameplay there was actually detracted from the game : most puzzles were absolutely trivial, and GOD THE CHARACTER WALKED SLOWLY. Seriously, watch in hand, it took more than two or three minutes to navigate the farm I mentioned earlier just to go talk to character B after character A. I felt I spent more time walking than actually having anything happen, it drove me mad. Well, madder.

I got Tales of Borderland for free too since I do have a PSN subscription, but most likely will skip it too (not having played any Borderlands game doesn't really help).

Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on May 16, 2017, 09:32:37 AM
Heck, that reminds me that I had gotten the Telltale game from Fables because I love the comic series (at least the first half, quality nosedived soon after with major Deus Ex Machina solving from nowhere crisis which should have been major events), and WD was such a disappointment I never got to launch it.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on May 16, 2017, 12:01:50 PM
It shows how people's tastes vary.  For me Walking Dead is probably one of my favourite games of all time.  I thought it was absolutely brilliant and very few games have invoked the kind of feelings in me that Walking Dead did.  That said, I would concede that a lot of the puzzle elements were not great and got in the way of the narrative.

Tales from the Borderlands is also an absolutely fantastic game, probably my second favourite of the Telltales.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 16, 2017, 03:23:49 PM
Like them or not, my problem is people saying "they're not games." It especially drove me batty when this mantra got thrown around left and right after Gone Home came out (in that particular case, the bile was multiplied by the wailing of the deeply threatened MRA crowd).

It's interactive? You engage with it? It's a game, bottom line. Doesn't matter if all you do is press the SPACEBAR to continue every 5 minutes. It's a game. Shooters? Games. Puzzles? Games. Point-n-Clicks? They're games. Walking simulators? They're games. Visual Novels? Games.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on May 16, 2017, 04:02:34 PM
Oh it is definitely a game.  Otherwise how can it be one of my favourite games of all time? :D
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 16, 2017, 04:25:37 PM
This reminds me of two things.  That feeling I got with the Back to the Future game.  It has THE music.  It started with the iconic scene in the garage plugging into the amplifier.

That stuff was GOLD.  Some bits of it didn't follow the movies and were a bit weird with different characters and settings.  I think I got stuck, or didn't fire it back up.

Similar with TWD.  At that farm point you had to get in the barn.  I hadn't worked it out, never bothered to fire it up again to try again in about 4 years.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Lego on May 16, 2017, 09:06:29 PM
Just starting a run-through of Dragon Age: Origins. As much as I've played it I've only beat it twice, never with a melee character. God, I had forgotten what RPG fucking perfection this game is. Dual-wielding thief is pretty fun so far. No plans for the character, just going to go with whatever seems natural to her at any given moment. Dalish elf.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 16, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
Dalish Elf origin is my favorite, despite the fact that "The Internet" hates it.

That moment when s/he looks back on the clan for the last time while heading out with Duncan? The Feels!
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 16, 2017, 10:08:23 PM
Dalish Elf origin also has possibly the most interesting lore tidbit that might come into play heavily in whatever Dragon Age 4 might be, that the ruins you go through were actually built by both Humans and Elves together, worshipping their gods side by side.  Parts of DA:I go into this as well, hinting at some of the history of the world not being what everyone there thinks it is, which I find quite interesting.

Also, Merrill in DA:O > Merrill in DA2.  :P
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 17, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
I really need to reinstall DA:O and just play all the beginnings.

I have only done City Elf, and human noble (I think -- it has been a while).
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Dust on May 24, 2017, 02:54:07 AM
Has anyone got in on this months Humble bundle? (https://www.humblebundle.com/humble-indie-bundle-18?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=HIB18_Announce_Boost) It has a few things im intrigued by...
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 24, 2017, 06:44:02 AM
never bothered with a monthly bundle. Goat simulator is fun
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 26, 2017, 11:12:53 PM
Finished I Am Setsuna, Tokyo RPG Factory's Chrono Trigger clone (by their own description).  Probably a 6/10.  Doesn't do anything particular well, but doesn't do anything particular bad either.  Average story, average character development, battle system has depth but most of that depth is unnecessary, some interesting mechanics, which is about all that can be expected as a first major game from a new small studio.  Glitchless speedruns run about 4 hours, so it's not terribly long, if the initial price were lower it'd probably be more popular (it's $40, I got it on sale for $24).

Now on to Nier: Automata.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 26, 2017, 11:42:08 PM
I've been playing Tales of Berseria pretty much exclusively now for the last 10 days or so. It's so darn good. I'm not generally a fan of JRPGs for lots of reasons, but this one has really clicked for me. And I'm in love with the characters.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Dust on May 27, 2017, 02:55:34 AM
Has anyone got in on this months Humble bundle? (https://www.humblebundle.com/humble-indie-bundle-18?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=HIB18_Announce_Boost) It has a few things im intrigued by...

I got the first tier, although I was sorely tempted to see if Kentucky Route Zero is as good as I've been led to believe. Now of course, I'm looking at the Game On Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/gameon-bundle) for 80 days, remastered Grim Fandango and Day of the Tentacle. Hmm.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 27, 2017, 05:47:18 AM
Stanley Parable is recoommended by me, quite different.  Borderslands Prequel was made by an Aussie team.  Lots of aussie accents and slang in it.  Plays like another Borderlands game.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on May 27, 2017, 07:14:27 AM
I'm still investing most of my gaming time into Witcher 3.  Probably at 80-90 hours so far and still probably only between half and two thirds of the way through the game judging solely on the level of some of the quests in my log and the fact I'm currently level 20.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 27, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Kentucky Route Zero is "All that and more" according to everyone I know who has played it.

Goat Simulator is good stupid fun for an hour.

Her Story gets nothing but rave reviews from friends.  Ditto for Stanley Parable and Grim Fandango.

Borderlands Presequel is... more Borderlands.

The Broken Sword series is good but it seems weird to only offer #5.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 27, 2017, 03:30:18 PM
My survival mode FO4 is still going.  I am now level 64.  Doing BOS quests.  Getting closer to the end.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on May 28, 2017, 12:28:12 AM
I've been playing Tales of Berseria pretty much exclusively now for the last 10 days or so. It's so darn good. I'm not generally a fan of JRPGs for lots of reasons, but this one has really clicked for me. And I'm in love with the characters.

I've been thinking of picking it up.  I picked up Tales of Xillia after seeing a review for it and was surprised how likable the characters were.  Bought the sequel and enjoyed it too. 

A couple hours into Nier: Automata and it hasn't really clicked yet.  The game taking over the camera control constantly is still bugging me, especially when it does it in the middle of a boss fight.  It can be fun exploring the world since movement is quick and gravity is not an obstacle, though the collect-a-thon seems to be strong with this one since a single weapon upgrade takes 5-10 of 4 different items that you can only find singles of scattered around the world (or as semi-rare drops from enemies).  It's not really clear what areas you are supposed to be in for your level, as I've run into NPCs I talked to before while there were level 10 enemies around, and those NPCs triggered quests with level 35 enemies.  Skill is still more important than stats, so I haven't died yet, but it takes soooooooo long to kill things above your level so it's not super fun.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on May 28, 2017, 05:59:50 AM
Mostly playing Dragon's Dogma, which took me a little while to get into but that I'm now loving, and when I want something mindless, Vanquish, which despite being a typical third-person shooter, a genre I'm usually not really keen on, is so over the top and reasonably easy that I'm having a great time.
Oh, still playing some GTA online too when friends are available.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: mn4nu on May 28, 2017, 08:33:22 AM
Started playing FO4 again, after nearly a year off.  Very fun.  I am too much of a scrounger and it makes progress slow.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 30, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Started playing FO4 again, after nearly a year off.  Very fun.  I am too much of a scrounger and it makes progress slow.

I have hit lvl 71...see if you can catch up.  :P

Overall I think the Brotherhood of Steel collectively have a broom shoved up their ass.  That said it is shaping up to be the most interesting story line.  Closing in on the end (finally).
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: mn4nu on May 30, 2017, 02:04:15 PM
I have hit lvl 71...see if you can catch up.  :P
That isn't going to happen anytime soon.  I'm only lvl 26.  How do you like survival mode?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 30, 2017, 04:29:39 PM
I have hit lvl 71...see if you can catch up.  :P
That isn't going to happen anytime soon.  I'm only lvl 26.  How do you like survival mode?

It is a mixed bag.  Some of it gets incredibly tedious.  But the fights all have an extra edge that makes in fun.  But it seems you can carry less.  You get sick all the f*ing time.  I now have 10 endurance and I still get sick a lot.  You are always hunting for water and a place to sleep.  And nothing is worse than spending thirty minutes on some mission only to die at the very end.

It certainly is a challenged unmodded.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on May 30, 2017, 05:52:17 PM
I have hit lvl 71...see if you can catch up.  :P
That isn't going to happen anytime soon.  I'm only lvl 26.  How do you like survival mode?

It is a mixed bag.  Some of it gets incredibly tedious.  But the fights all have an extra edge that makes in fun.  But it seems you can carry less.  You get sick all the f*ing time.  I now have 10 endurance and I still get sick a lot.  You are always hunting for water and a place to sleep.  And nothing is worse than spending thirty minutes on some mission only to die at the very end.

It certainly is a challenged lot like punching yourself in the dick unmodded.

FTFY.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on May 30, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
Punching your self in the dick is less painful.  :p
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on May 30, 2017, 09:12:53 PM
If you have small hands it would be less painful
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: mn4nu on May 31, 2017, 07:57:05 AM
LOL!!  Sounds like the same kind of fun Darkness had with doing set dungeons in Diablo 3.  ;)
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on June 02, 2017, 11:14:15 PM
Well I think I am done with FO4 for a while.  Completed the main quest at level 78.

Brotherhood was a bit more interesting than Railroad.

A small part of me is interested in playing melee character.  If I did it I would go the Institute plot line.  Good lord I don't like the institute.

I loved the commonwealth, but good lord it was a lousy main plot line.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on June 03, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
Not sure Bethesda knows how to make a good main plot line ;), but yeah, the journey around their worlds are usually worth it.  I found the Brotherhood final mission to be the most fun, but I felt like only the Minutemen let you see any noticeable difference in the world. 

This is one of the best videos explaining the philosophy behind Star Wars, as shown through Kreia from KOTOR 2.  Watched it 3 times now, and it's brilliant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0S0Z8lUTg

Finished Ending "A" in Nier: Automata.  Gameplay still bugs me, hopefully playing as a different character now will make it more interesting.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on June 03, 2017, 10:00:27 PM
I reinstalled Morrowind. Not ESO Morrowind. TES3 Morrowind. With the Morrowind Overhaul.

It's freaking beautiful (for a 15-year-old game in particular). Still my favorite TES game, too.

It also made it clear just how faithfully Elder Scrolls Online reproduced it...

This is getting off the boat in Seyda Neen for the first time in TES3. (http://i.imgur.com/jCKf8do.png)
This is the exact same spot in ESO Morrowind. (https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/777281904895622594/AFEAFF815F1112E1962BAB4F917EFD2E96C1684A/)

Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: narsica on June 07, 2017, 09:49:05 PM
The Story Behind Mass Effect's Troubled Five Year Development (http://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428)

Really interesting article, that goes a long way towards explaining why ME:A wasn't nearly what fans were expecting.

tl;dr version - Many of the major parts of the game were built in the 18 months prior to release, including the story, characters, major worlds, etc. Originally ME:A was intended to be a story driven version of No Man's Sky with hundreds of procedurally-generated planets where you piloted a star ship through space to find them. Way too ambitious, and they didn't start scaling back the vision until it was much, much too late.

It's actually seriously amazing how well it turned out for basically being done in a year and a half.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on June 08, 2017, 03:37:07 AM
This does sound like epic-proportion project management fail. Getting out of preproduction without having at all stabilized your production pipeline, clearly identified the work needed given the imposed game engine or even dtermùined whether they could work with generated plantes should have raised all kind of red flags already.
It does give some context to the many key departures Bioware has seen these last few years.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on June 11, 2017, 06:29:44 PM
In gaming, like in life we sometimes put something up on a pedestal that doesn't deserve it.  On the weekend I had a reality check for one of those things, and I realise its actually possible and won't take too much effort.   It's gone from unachievable pipe dream to something I should finish before the end of the month!

In one of the Serious Sam games I'm missing just one achievement, you have to frag 100 different people.  I thought the MP was dead (turns out its not!).  I thought it would take a long time. Turns out there is a lot of waiting, but I just do something else until randoms join my game.  I've gone from 31 done to 60 now.  Part of that was a group who setup an event.

A good reminder to test or relook at some assumptions to see if things are still valid!
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on June 13, 2017, 01:00:39 AM
Platinum-ed Nier:Automata, which was easier than most games because there's actually a way to buy all of the trophies using in-game money (yay for skipping the grind).  Overall I'd say it deserves most of the praise it has been getting, although I don't think it quite excels at any particular part as some other games do, it's just very solid all around.  The story has some pretty dark moments and an interesting spin on some standard sci-fi tropes, the music is good throughout, the combat is fun, the world is fun to explore, although exploring and fighting can get pretty repetitive since the areas don't expand much as the game progresses, and the bullet-hell shooter and hacking sections stay roughly the same.  It's certainly a unique game that's worth playing.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on June 20, 2017, 09:30:55 PM
Just finished What Remains of Edith Finch. Holy cow. In the genre of Gone Home and the like, this one is the best yet. It totally deserves its 90 metacritic score and maybe more. Heartbreaking and beautiful and masterfully presented. Two enthusiastic thumbs up.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on June 20, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
I still don't know what remains of her?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on June 20, 2017, 09:48:45 PM
That's the mystery to be solved by playing the game. :P
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on June 21, 2017, 11:06:49 AM
Played Rise of the Tomb Raider again and enjoyed it.  Completed it on Survival mode.  During the toughest fights I generally went full melee and it worked pretty well.  Fully maxed melee and healing is the ticket to survive survival mode.  I bought and played the Baba Yaga DLC and overall it was pretty meh.

Tooling around in Titan's Quest Anniversary right now.  Play is pretty slow so I am not sure how far I will get in the game.  It is also a pretty tough game.  I forgot that you hit walls pretty hard in the game.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on June 21, 2017, 07:54:39 PM
I bought it months after it came out, so had the season pass.  Baba Yaga seemed to fit naturally when you were out of the intro phases but still fairly noobish.  I could have continued on the main story but chose to investigate it.  I enjoyed it in this context, the initial meeting felt very odd, reminded me of Max Payne being drugged.  The gameplay experience was quite similar.

The 2nd bit had more exploring/puzzle solving before the "boss" fight which took me a few goes to get hold of the flow of it.  I got the items from that, and used them in the normal game after (partly for achievements) but it was fun to do.

Actually in January I almost finished the game .. then the Diablo3 season came out.  I need to go back and finish it ..  I have so many fun games I should get back to.

On a different topic.  I bought a Steam Link today.  A friend gave me a tip off a bricks and mortar store had it at 70% off! I can't refuse that deal.  Should be fun playing in the living room with the heat pump in the dead of winter :)
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on June 22, 2017, 03:38:46 PM
Looks like the Steam Summer Sale has started.

Need to see if there is any must have items.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on June 22, 2017, 04:12:00 PM
There is something to do with stickers this time.  Something about quests.  First one is just to bring up your activity page which is my default for browsing.  Don't forget to go through the discovery queue for free trading cards and money or the badge!

Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on June 22, 2017, 04:47:13 PM
As usual the Steam store is shit at sale launch. The difference is -  this time, it's still shit 5 hours later too.

Welp, time to see my backlog  explode some more...
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: lemming on June 22, 2017, 06:06:14 PM
make sure to check isthereanydeal before buying anything
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on June 22, 2017, 06:22:22 PM
make sure to check isthereanydeal before buying anything

or in your web browser use Enhanced Steam which gives price history ..
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: lemming on June 22, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
that just fetches itad data, right

that'd work
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on June 24, 2017, 11:54:13 PM
Finished Valkyria Chronicles Remastered on PS4.  I ended up liking this game a lot more than I expected.  The game reminds me a lot of Final Fantasy Tactics, and not just because Hitoshi Sakimoto did the soundtrack for both games (and it shares many voice actors with FF12 which is another Ivalice game).  Both involve very strategic gameplay where you use characters one by one towards an objective, where they are able to move a certain distance and do one action each turn.  Instead of a fantasy world with a grid-based system from an isometric perspective, now it's a fictional-WW2 world with a 3D-map from a 3rd-person and top-down perspective, with guns and tanks instead of bows and magic, and you get to manually aim and take each shot instead of relying entirely on numbers.  The semi-serious war-based story coupled with some pretty stellar character development meant that the possibility of permadeath for any of my people was something I worried about constantly.  The art style was charming, the battles were challenging, and it has one of the more believable love stories in any game (with a satisfying payoff).  The game is also on PC.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on July 01, 2017, 09:39:00 PM
Summer Games Done Quick (https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule) starts tomorrow.  Something to watch at least.

The Mini SNES was announced and looks to be a much better package than the Mini NES.  Star Fox 2 is the real surprise, as the game had never been officially released before.  Final Fantasy 6, Secret of Mana, Super Mario RPG and Earthbound are probably the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th best RPGs on the system (1st being Chrono Trigger, which may have been skipped due to 3DS, PS1, and PSN releases).  Mega Man X, Contra 3, F-Zero, Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Super Mario Kart, Yoshi's Island, it's got quite the nice collection.  Comes out September 29th, assuming anyone can find one.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on July 01, 2017, 10:57:49 PM
I will never understand the appeal of GDQ. Ever.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on July 02, 2017, 12:40:42 AM
I don't watch the whole thing, or even 20% of it, but there are some games and players that are entertaining enough for me to check it out.  It gets a little too commercial sometimes, with the constant requests for money like a PBS special, but the most donations tend come in when something happens that requires genuine skill, which is what I appreciate too.  I do plan on watching the Diablo 2 Any% Normal Assassin run next Saturday morning, and various other runs on Thursday-Saturday, though most of the games up until then I don't really care about.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on July 02, 2017, 05:22:43 PM
I will never understand the appeal of GDQ. Ever.

Watching 1million plus be raised to fight cancer, help good charities.  Some games, its good to watch, others are awful (including some you like to play)
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on July 02, 2017, 06:54:26 PM
Nope, still don't see the appeal in watching people "play" games that way.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on July 02, 2017, 07:51:38 PM
If you're specifically against speedrunning as a style of play, then I kinda agree.  I'm more of a completionist myself, don't see myself ever trying to time myself during runs, even on games I'm an absolute expert on.  I can recognize and appreciate both types of skills though, the hypergodmode I-can-see-the-matrix dudes (like the Tetris: GrandMaster Edition runners), or the planners who see absolutely everything a game has to offer in every category with every character (and often provide the strats the speedrunners use).
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on July 02, 2017, 10:54:14 PM
I've enjoyed seeing 2 or more people race in a game.  Sure you can't do this in a text heavy story based game.   But imagine something like Tomb Raider, seeing 2 or 4 people race, its not always one person in front.   Can be great in a non linear game where different people go different ways .. who will end up in front! or will random luck stop someone?  I spent a while watching some console game I've never seen before, and will never play.  It was fun to watch though (for me).

I saw the Diablo speedrun, that had lucky/perfect spawns where the person just went down to the next level, and the entrance/exit were always next to each other.  They glitched some stuff for no challenge mode.  That was boring to watch.

Others where you see amazing skill, or tricks that a normal person struggles to pull of can be great to watch.

For me, this reminds me when I was a kid and there was one computer in a school room.  People would play before class. If you weren't playing, you were watching and cheering them on, maybe getting some ideas when you had a chance yourself.  This type of thing, its much more fun watching someone efficient, or doing something fun, than slow

Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on August 28, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
Not a lot of chatter here...

Mostly just been replaying older stuff.  Since the original Starcraft is now free (Remastered costs money but whatever), been replaying that.  When I was younger and inexperienced with RTSs I couldn't beat a lot of the missions in Brood War without cheats, so I'm plowing through now without help, although the last few Zerg missions have been pretty hard.

After watching EpicNameBro play through Dark Souls 2:SotfS and actually enjoy it again, picked it up and have gotten pretty far towards Platinuming it again (already did the original version on PS3).  Didn't really find any of the DLC areas that fun, except for the Old Chaos battle in Crown of the Ivory King, as there isn't any other battle like it in Soulsborne (where you can have 6+ allied NPCs helping you).  I can see why some people hate the optional areas; Cave of the Dead, Iron Passage and the Frigid Outskirts are pretty unfair areas, although I did beat the Iron Passage first try thanks to the boss being a reskin of one I'm very very familiar with.

Once I'm done with those I'll move on to Shadow of Mordor and Street Fighter V, as I got them both pretty cheaply.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on August 28, 2017, 03:28:17 PM
I played, and very much enjoyed Shadow of Mordor.  I found it got a bit repetitive but ultimately it was hugely enjoyable.  The fighting in particular was enjoyable and really flowed well.  I hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 02, 2017, 03:29:31 AM
Finished the (2nd) platinum of DS2: Sotfs.  Pretty easy to blaze through with a Hexer build, despite the nerfs to many of the spells I used the first time I platinumed it (mainly all the lightning spear variants are garbage now and you can only cast them 3 times instead of 22).  Not a huge fan of the ridiculous number of NPC invaders, somewhere around 30 in a single playthrough, which mainly just slow progress and don't offer much of a challenge, although a few in the DLCs were interesting (one "invades" you without a message and pretends to be a helpful white phantom until he backstabs you, then he runs away and heals or hides behind other enemies).  Lore-wise I think I prefer DS2 to any of the other Souls games though, in that it at least tries to address the purpose of your end game choice and bring up questions about the human condition (especially through Lucatiel).  Sadly DS3 largely abandoned DS2's lore so none of the interesting questions get answered, in fact I don't think any NPC in DS3 talks about Curses at all, when that was a freaking big deal in DS1 and 2.

Started up Street Fighter V to see if it has improved with all the additions since it's too-early release, and it seems that it is.  The tutorial system is pretty good, better than any other Street Fighter game at least.  There are 20 trials per character, a very quick story mode for each character and an overarching story (which has to be downloaded separately apparently).  Thankfully all of the characters they keep coming up with do not require real money to unlock, they can be bought with in-game money, and from what I can tell after an hour or so the only items that require real money are costumes (for people that like to play dress up with their waifus I guess).
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on September 04, 2017, 04:49:40 AM
Tbf I really didn't miss lightning spear on a hexer build given that the basic dark spell, dark orb, has many casts and while it isn't sunlight spear, it's  still more than powerul enough to still be extremely useful end-game.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 04, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
Exactly, I usually used 3-4 sets of Dark Orb which was enough to clear multiple areas without resting, a few sets of Great Resonant Soul for quicker kills on invaders (I had heard it had been nerfed but not really), and Dark Fog for poison kills on slower enemies. 
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on September 05, 2017, 02:58:07 AM
Many Dark spells are quite original, and are absolutely stunning... in PvP : silence spell and the DLC spell which raises your encumbrance by a set percentage can really mess up people's builds and expectations, affinity gives you some breathing room to cast other spells, dark fogs get people out of safe zones... I had never really dipped in PvP in the Souls games until my Hexer, and loved it.

It's been a while since my last Souls run (a Bloodborne run with a friend early this year), it may be time for me to start Dark Souls III.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 05, 2017, 02:11:11 PM
in PvP : silence spell and the DLC spell which raises your encumbrance by a set percentage

Oh, you mean the 2 spells that the Astrologists in the Iron Passage and several DLC NPC invaders spam constantly?  >:(  I can see how they'd be pretty useful in PvP.

DS3 is worth playing.  I don't enjoy most of the areas in it, or its lore, but the boss battles are overall way better than 2.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on September 15, 2017, 06:29:04 AM
I reinstalled Hellgate London with the Revival Mod.

Forgot how much I loved this game.

There's a fan-made multiplayer version in the works (currently in a closed alpha mode, I believe). Color me intrigued.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: mn4nu on September 15, 2017, 10:59:26 AM
I reinstalled Hellgate London with the Revival Mod.

Forgot how much I loved this game.

There's a fan-made multiplayer version in the works (currently in a closed alpha mode, I believe). Color me intrigued.

I had a steam pop-up saying that were playing this.  I thought to myself, whoa, now there's a game I haven't thought about in awhile.  I really liked the game too.  Let me know if you think it's worth trying out again.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on September 15, 2017, 10:04:50 PM
Well, it's still pretty great fun even after all this time. If you don't mind that it's single player only, go for it. :D
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 17, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
I played, and very much enjoyed Shadow of Mordor.  I found it got a bit repetitive but ultimately it was hugely enjoyable.  The fighting in particular was enjoyable and really flowed well.  I hope you enjoy it.

I don't think I enjoyed it as much as you, but it was alright.  It's actually pretty short for an open-world game, had 95% completion in less than 20 hours.  Lots of annoying little things kept it from flowing well, such as getting stuck for no reason on clearly flat terrain, the climbing not always working, and Orcs spawning out of thin air all the time everywhere (to a ridiculous extent).  The game got more fun after unlocking the Brand ability, but that's a while into the game.  Probably one of the few games I won't try to get all achievements, as some are a pain to set up (like trying to set up a Warchief with 5 branded bodyguards, they never seem to get more than 2 normally).
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on September 18, 2017, 11:59:05 AM
I almost never get all achievements in a game so I certainly never look at a game from that vantage point.  I also don't remember those glitches but it is too bad you experienced them.

Hellgate -- I really liked the game.  I even played the second version of the game that came out.  It is a pity how they were never able to iron out the problems with the game as the mechanics of the classes and story had so much potential.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on September 18, 2017, 04:01:20 PM
I got all the achievements in The Walkikng Dead season 1. However there are only two that you can possibly miss.  I'm keeping my telltale thing going by continuing Tales from the Borderlands.  I got up to the first achievement and got distracted by other shinies in the past.

@Maxbeedo, have you heard of this site? http://metagamerscore.com/

Personally with my amount of gaming time, I like to see myself climb my countries ladder, but dont push things.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on September 18, 2017, 04:48:46 PM
My weekly RPG gaming group is starting up a pen-n-paper RPG this week based on the Hellgate London setting. Using the Savage Worlds rule system. This seems like it could be a lot of fun. :D
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 18, 2017, 05:24:26 PM
My weekly RPG gaming group is starting up a pen-n-paper RPG this week based on the Hellgate London setting. Using the Savage Worlds rule system. This seems like it could be a lot of fun. :D

That does sound cool.  I never played Hellgate London but the setting looked awesome.  I've been in a group playing through the D&D 5E Out of the Abyss campaign which has a few similar elements (Demon Lords invasion instead of Devils, madnesses, etc.), which we have maybe 2 more sessions for before the climax.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on September 18, 2017, 08:44:49 PM
That actually sounds pretty epic.  I hope you have a great time with it.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Ray Patean on September 19, 2017, 02:35:50 PM
So, I feel like I've finally ascended to the PC Master Race. I got the final piece of my new computer today, and now I've risen! Or should that by Ryzen? Either way, I'm digging my new build!

Now, coming from an old 1gb graphics card I was never able to get into a game with top-notch graphics. Now, I have a GTX 1070 and need some suggestions of what I should play! I have Diablo 3 and Rocket League installed on my computer, and that's it. I've never been a huge fan of big, open world RPGs like Skyrim, but I'm definitely open to suggestions of good games that have come out in recent years.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on September 19, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
Tomb Raider!

Very pretty and fun game.  There are a bunch of fun ones out there.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on September 19, 2017, 06:13:12 PM
I haven't gotten around to Witcher III but that should  be a good one.  Prey is a newer FPS that is pretty as is the new Doom.  Hellblade is another to put on your list.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on September 19, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
What genres float your boat?  Your Steam Profile needs new games, you have only two on there :P  Wait till the sale. 

I think you've done most of what you'll do in D3.  It will run faster, but its still D3. 
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on September 20, 2017, 08:26:32 AM
You probably should limit the otherwise infinite choice by genre, but for the "WOW, MY EYES" effect of your 1070, you can look into Tomb Raider indeed, Witcher 3, the latest Doom which are three solid games (at the very least) and will make you enoy the benefits of a new CG.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on September 20, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
Hellblade is off the charts for the WOW MY EYES factor, too. It's the best looking game I've thrown at my PC yet.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Ray Patean on September 21, 2017, 03:47:32 PM
I'll probably check out Tomb Raider for now - and maybe PUBG, as a co-worker has that and wants me to play it.

I wasn't really giving a genre because I've been fairly disinterested in gaming lately, and wanted to try new things that catch my interest. I got hooked into Zelda: BotW recently, but other than that it's been basically D3 and that's it. I guess a new ARPG would be good - Grim Dawn or PoE perhaps?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on September 21, 2017, 03:53:51 PM
The 2013 Tomb Raider isn't as shiny but is still a cool game.  The new Tomb Raider MAY still be $12 at humble bundle as the monthly thing .. go check it out
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Ray Patean on September 22, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
Thanks for the heads up on that, Tim. Is that the $12 monthly subscription thing?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 22, 2017, 11:36:07 AM
Been trying to league up in SFV for achievement purposes, keep hitting a wall where I get one match away and then always get matched up with people 10000+ miles away with bad connections (regardless of settings), or someone 3-4 leagues higher than me.  Oh well.  Probably not many people playing it right now anyway since Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite just came out.

Trying to get into Divinity: Original Sin, but damn does this game make it hard to get into.  No good plot hook, guards keep saying I'm not high enough level to leave the initial town, quest log already has 18 quests in it with no real direction on any of them even after talking to every NPC twice.  Guess it's time to run off into the wilderness.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on September 22, 2017, 08:02:32 PM
Been trying to league up in SFV for achievement purposes, keep hitting a wall where I get one match away and then always get matched up with people 10000+ miles away with bad connections (regardless of settings), or someone 3-4 leagues higher than me.  Oh well.  Probably not many people playing it right now anyway since Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite just came out.

Trying to get into Divinity: Original Sin, but damn does this game make it hard to get into.  No good plot hook, guards keep saying I'm not high enough level to leave the initial town, quest log already has 18 quests in it with no real direction on any of them even after talking to every NPC twice.  Guess it's time to run off into the wilderness.

Yeah, the first Div:OS was terrible for story and it never gets better. Mechanically great but tough to plow through. I gave up.

Div:OS2 on the other hand, starts strong and keeps going. It's a pretty brilliant game. I started playing it on a weekend day and it absorbed every minute of the weekend without me realizing it. I'd say skip the first game and go straight to the second.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Dust on September 24, 2017, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: maxbeedo

Trying to get into Divinity: Original Sin, but damn does this game make it hard to get into.  No good plot hook, guards keep saying I'm not high enough level to leave the initial town, quest log already has 18 quests in it with no real direction on any of them even after talking to every NPC twice.  Guess it's time to run off into the wilderness.

Oh god, I thought it was just me. Between that and the fixed camera angle I was finding it so frustrating
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on September 24, 2017, 05:17:33 AM
Thanks for the heads up on that, Tim. Is that the $12 monthly subscription thing?

yeah, i dont think you are stuck on the monthly thing, just this month it has that. Read the fine print :D
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on September 24, 2017, 07:06:11 AM
You can suscribe, and cancel before thenext month starts, I did it at some point, I think it was for X-COM 2
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Ray Patean on September 24, 2017, 08:01:31 AM
Thanks! I saw that you can cancel - I may keep it for a few months just to try new games and get a base of games built up. Glad I didn't spend the $20 or whatever it is for an older Tomb Raider too!
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: lemming on September 24, 2017, 03:25:18 PM
Unless you're committing to one of the longer term purchase options (which I wouldn't recommend), you're better off thinking of it as just a $12 bundle available for an entire month at a time.

You can game the system a bit to save extra money; the first Humble Monthly purchase on any given account is eligible for a 10% off coupon with purchase of virtually any other Humble PC game bundle, so you can save a bit of money by making a new account every month. If there's a bundle showing up during the month that you're interested in, buy it on the dummy account and buy the Monthly on that account to save the $1.20. If there isn't, you can buy the $1 tier of whatever bundle is available and it'll still give you the coupon.

There may also be a referral option available in your main account for Monthly purchases; if your second account uses that link to purchase the monthly it'll give your main account $5 of credit.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 27, 2017, 06:43:29 PM
Yeah, the first Div:OS was terrible for story and it never gets better. Mechanically great but tough to plow through. I gave up.

Div:OS2 on the other hand, starts strong and keeps going. It's a pretty brilliant game. I started playing it on a weekend day and it absorbed every minute of the weekend without me realizing it. I'd say skip the first game and go straight to the second.

Here's a list of things I've found so far that are bullshit in Div:OS1:
Combat is turn-based, but out of combat is REAL-TIME with NO PAUSING.  Meaning that if you have ANY status effects of any kind that might kill you, you have to NOT KILL ENEMIES in order to have a chance to heal them before the battle is over, because otherwise it's an automatic death (your character will take the damage on literally frame 1 once combat ends).
Undead enemies are HEALED by Poison, generate Poison blotches on the ground which automatically heal themselves and all their buddies every turn, AND carry healing scrolls AND resurrection scrolls which ALSO work on undead, for whatever reason (yes, they constantly spam heals and resurrects on each other).
There is no resting of any kind, whether through action, an inn, or otherwise.  You can only find or buy items to heal (or when you level).
Even the weakest elemental spell changes the terrain for over 5 minutes in real time, minimum.  If you create a wall of fire to block your enemies path and then defeat them, be prepared to wait a long time before you can loot.
Already ran into a completely bugged quest that cannot be completed.  In Arhu's Failed Experiment, the commands do nothing, the dialogue triggers correctly saying it's disabled or weakened but it still instantly kills my party, this is apparently a known bug based on several guides.
The "running" speed is incredibly slow.
Fleeing a battle ONLY saves the ONE character, and NPCs you hire cannot flee.  Thus, fleeing any battle means every NPC dies permanently (until you level up so high you can crush the enemies surrounding their bodies).

So yeah, not exactly a fun time.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: sam_manzanza on September 27, 2017, 09:31:43 PM
Has anyone played Disgaea 5? Bought it for Switch last night for something to sink a bit of time into until I buy a PS4. I tend to skew more toward the items/loot aspects of RPGs, rather than story, so the weak story doesn't really concern me.

Never played a tactics RGP before, so not even sure how the gameplay works etc but had a look at a few videos and reviews and it looks pretty good.

Any feedback from you fine folks would be good!
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on September 27, 2017, 09:52:34 PM
Here's a list of things I've found so far that are bullshit in Div:OS1:
Combat is turn-based, but out of combat is REAL-TIME with NO PAUSING.  Meaning that if you have ANY status effects of any kind that might kill you, you have to NOT KILL ENEMIES in order to have a chance to heal them before the battle is over, because otherwise it's an automatic death (your character will take the damage on literally frame 1 once combat ends).

I don't think I follow. But this doesn't sound like anything I've experienced in Div2.

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Undead enemies are HEALED by Poison, generate Poison blotches on the ground which automatically heal themselves and all their buddies every turn, AND carry healing scrolls AND resurrection scrolls which ALSO work on undead, for whatever reason (yes, they constantly spam heals and resurrects on each other).

Div2, poison still heals undead. But regular healing does crazy damage to them. This also applies to undead in your party...

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There is no resting of any kind, whether through action, an inn, or otherwise.  You can only find or buy items to heal (or when you level).

Div2, as long as you have a bedroll in your backpack (which is an unlimited use item that you find in the very beginning), you can rest whenever you want for instant full healz.

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Even the weakest elemental spell changes the terrain for over 5 minutes in real time, minimum.  If you create a wall of fire to block your enemies path and then defeat them, be prepared to wait a long time before you can loot.

You... are supposed to use your own elements in conjunction with each other or to counter this stuff. You should always have someone with a Rain spell, which makes the aforementioned scenario barely even an inconvenience.

The interaction of elements is like 90% of the strategy of the game.

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Already ran into a completely bugged quest that cannot be completed.  In Arhu's Failed Experiment, the commands do nothing, the dialogue triggers correctly saying it's disabled or weakened but it still instantly kills my party, this is apparently a known bug based on several guides.

Not surprised.

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The "running" speed is incredibly slow.

Not a thing I've noted in Div2.

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Fleeing a battle ONLY saves the ONE character, and NPCs you hire cannot flee.  Thus, fleeing any battle means every NPC dies permanently (until you level up so high you can crush the enemies surrounding their bodies).

I don't believe this is the case in 2, either, but then I've never had to flee a battle...

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So yeah, not exactly a fun time.

Seriously. Drop 1 and play 2. It's so much better...
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on September 27, 2017, 11:24:10 PM
That's good to hear.  The DOT thing is regarding effects like Burning or Poison that do damage to you per turn (and early on it's like >25% of your life per tic).  While in battle everything is turn-based so if you have someone with an anti-poison or anti-burning ability you can use them to stop the damage, but once combat ends you immediately start taking the damage every 2-3 seconds, which can't be stopped (except by the save/load menu), so you have to scramble to heal before all your characters die, and the healing animations usually take so long that you take 1-2 tics more before the heal kicks in.  The elements thing I understand, but it's not an easy thing to cover all your bases within 1-2 hours of starting, especially when the tutorial forces you to use most or all of the water elemental stuff it gives you and neither of the default characters have any elemental magic, nor did the first 4 hirable NPCs I found (my options at the time were a Fighter, 2 Knights, 2 Rogues and a Ranger).  May have to restart entirely using only magic since that's what the game wanted me to do but didn't say... or just never play it again.  It's kinda similar to what happened in my first Dragon Age: Origins playthrough where I did the Mage's Tower last and tried to do all of the Deep Roads without a healer, the difference being I had plenty of time to learn how to play since that was much later on, and I actually cared about that story but don't care here.  I likely won't play 2 until it drops drastically in price (I only bought 1 because it dropped below $15).
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Godji on September 28, 2017, 07:28:15 AM
Has anyone played Disgaea 5? Bought it for Switch last night for something to sink a bit of time into until I buy a PS4. I tend to skew more toward the items/loot aspects of RPGs, rather than story, so the weak story doesn't really concern me.

That's not how Disgaea really works. I do like tactical-RPGs, and Disgaea is a fantastic one, but it actually tends to be... too much. It's full of qualities, but there are IMO literally too many things to do and systems to explore, it's a game played in hundreds of hours, and I find it hard to find this kind of time now.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: sam_manzanza on September 28, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
Has anyone played Disgaea 5? Bought it for Switch last night for something to sink a bit of time into until I buy a PS4. I tend to skew more toward the items/loot aspects of RPGs, rather than story, so the weak story doesn't really concern me.

That's not how Disgaea really works. I do like tactical-RPGs, and Disgaea is a fantastic one, but it actually tends to be... too much. It's full of qualities, but there are IMO literally too many things to do and systems to explore, it's a game played in hundreds of hours, and I find it hard to find this kind of time now.
Everything you've said here is true... even after just 2 hours and only barely scratching the surface of some of the systems, I feel overwhelmed. For me, gameplay and story are always secondary to fiddling with items and skills etc, but it's fucking nuts how much there is to play with and the story is so bad/cheesy/kitschy that it's almost painful. Having never played a Disgaea title or any tactical RPG previously, diving into this is like deciding to go for your first mountain hike and starting with Everest.

In saying that, I still got up at 5.30 this morning and played for 45 minutes while I waited for my coffee to, uh, do it's thing, so I could go for a run without fear of crapping myself and am already thinking about playing tonight (12 hours away...), so it's at least got some sort of hold on my attention. I guess I will probably do what I do with all games which is sink all my free time into it for like a month or two and then burn out. If I get 100 hours play time out of it for $100, that's a hell of an ROI, so I'll be happy. I got less play time out of Zelda: BotW and still consider that one of the best gaming investments I ever made.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on October 09, 2017, 02:54:05 AM
Been trying to persevere in Div:OS1, got further than 90% of people who have played the game on PS4 (just got a mandatory story trophy that only 9% have earned), which is only like 70% the way through the game.  Combat has still had a lot of bullshit, but the rarity of loot seems to go up quite a bit after a certain point so I'm regularly finding Divine/Legendary items.  Unfortunately I will likely not play any further since I finally found the end of a voiced hireling NPCs sidequest, and find out that she betrays you based on decisions from 40+ hours ago (strictly based on my demeanor, not anything I did against her), and then puts me in an essentially impossible battle, so my only choice is to basically... never do that sidequest I guess?  I mean, I don't have much reason to keep playing anyway, since the story has not improved (although having Alix Wilton Reagan voice several characters AND do the narration has helped a lot).  Maybe time to start Yakuza Zero.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Melchior on October 13, 2017, 09:22:06 PM
Woo

Finished XCOM2!

Really great game. I don't often actually finish a game, but the this one totally grabbed me, as a lover of turn based strategy, sci-fi and explosions.

I want the DLC now...but USD$40 is a bit rich :(

Can anyone comment on the value of the DLC?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on October 14, 2017, 03:20:39 AM
I really liked Xcom2, and the expansion is meant to improve it hugely.  That said, I agree it is absurdly priced.  I am waiting for a deal on it as I don't believe it will hold that price that for long.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: narsica on October 23, 2017, 01:16:18 PM
Finished both Assassin's Creed Unity and Assassin's Creed Rogue. Of the two, I thought Rogue was infinitely better. Much more variety, story line was more compelling. Was fun to see the background to other AC games (especially AC3 which remains my favourite).

I was interested to play an AC game set in the French Revolution, but I thought they wasted a lot of the potential for the setting. The whole Assassin's Council thing was interesting, but ultimately wasted. And some of the gameplay mechanics were weird - Arno was basically Spiderman, scrambling up walls he shouldn't have been able to (even for an AC game!).

Now to go through my backlog and pick something new to play!
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Melchior on October 30, 2017, 11:38:22 PM
I really liked Xcom2, and the expansion is meant to improve it hugely.  That said, I agree it is absurdly priced.  I am waiting for a deal on it as I don't believe it will hold that price that for long.

Decided against buying the DLC (yet). But I have installed the mod A Better Advent, which adds a variety of different enemies and adds some difficulty; definitely recommend it.

Other than that I picked up Wolfenstein: The New Order and I am really enjoying the gameplay and setting. I find some of it underwhelming...like the dual wielding mecahnic, bleh.  Ovrall great game so far though.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on October 31, 2017, 03:40:43 AM
Started playing Yakuza 0, having not played any other game in the series.  The cutscenes can be a little long at times, but otherwise the story has been pretty great so far.  The main story has enough twists and turns that it's not obvious where it's going to go, and the side missions often have ridiculous setups or content (I've had to teach a dominatrix how to... be a dominatrix, pretend to be a boyfriend to get a nagging father to leave his daughter alone only to get hit on by the father, retrieve pants from a pants thief, etc.).  There are a bunch of mini-games as side content like a casino, karaoke, dancing, batting cages, mahjong, pool, darts, etc., so there's a lot to do even if it's not all original, and thankfully there are challenges for each that give you money or points towards global benefits. 
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Melchior on October 31, 2017, 06:32:09 PM
Couldn't see a game sales thread, do we still have one?

Anyways, I'll post here for now:

Humble Jumbo Bundle 10 (https://www.humblebundle.com/jumbo-bundle-10) has Wasteland 2 at the $10 tier, for those interested. Considering getting it myself.

There is also Prototype 2, which I am not familiar with anyone played it?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: TheMikrobe on November 07, 2017, 06:33:59 AM
In a blast from the past I dug out my old CD of Quake III Arena and installed it - nearly 20 years old, but amazingly it runs on my modern computer! I played the crap out of Q3A back in the day and I'd recently started thinking about the purity of it as an FPS experience after playing ESO with its FPS-like qualities. I remember the graphics used to be too much for my machine, but now they look pretty rough and I had to run it in a small window. I still have my config and script files including the in-game achievements, so it was kind of fun to see all those.

My view and movement were pretty wild at first but I had some control by the end of the session and I got a couple of nice long-shot railgun kills. I was still really slow though and couldn't strafe run at all, let alone doing that while aiming, firing, hitting pick-ups, and monitoring life and ammo. And I was only playing the bots on the lowest two difficulty levels, I'd just get slaughtered on those Nightmare level maps I used to play on.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on November 07, 2017, 01:48:56 PM
did you play Team Arena too?  As you mentioned, you have the cdss, did you hear of Quake Live?  Basically Q3 that ran in a browser and was free for many years, they did some other updates on it, now its released as siomething you could buy http://store.steampowered.com/app/282440/Quake_Live/

Since I'd played the game while free I got auto put to the newer version.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: lemming on November 07, 2017, 02:26:40 PM
Quake Live is dead, but Quake Champions is playable right now.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on November 07, 2017, 03:59:32 PM
99.89% of games with MP are dead.  Of course anything older than 6 months that still has a community alive is special.

I remember RTB was quite skilled at the cool tricks you could do.  I miss that guy.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: sam_manzanza on November 07, 2017, 05:42:51 PM
99.89% of games with MP are dead.  Of course anything older than 6 months that still has a community alive is special.
What an oddly specific percentage...

I had to buy a new Switch and games since my old one got stolen a couple months back. Other than Disgaea (which I burnt out on without completing - zero story and hollow loot/character progression systems), I've been re-playing Zelda and messing around with Wonderboy 3 (which is awesome). I need a new RPG and have my eye on two which are out in about 3 weeks: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Battle Chasers: Nightwar.

Has anyone here played previous Xenoblade games or Battle Chasers on PS4? Worth getting?
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on November 07, 2017, 06:03:36 PM
73% of things on the internet are made up - Abraham Lincoln.

Also, was it really stolen, or did your defacto wife remove it from you?  Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb6MalVtago
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: TheMikrobe on November 07, 2017, 06:39:09 PM
did you play Team Arena too?  As you mentioned, you have the cdss, did you hear of Quake Live?  Basically Q3 that ran in a browser and was free for many years, they did some other updates on it, now its released as siomething you could buy http://store.steampowered.com/app/282440/Quake_Live/

I might have played TA a few times but not so I remember very much. I think I heard of Quake Live but probably wouldn't have been interested in it by then so I don't know any details.

I always had a crappy internet connection so properly getting into MP communities was hard, I'd log into games and just get wasted because I couldn't move. But I remember some great sessions with housemates and on the university network and Q3A still seems to me like a perfect game. Most of the base level designs and the weapon balance are outstanding.

I actually have a 3-pack of CDs with Quakes 1-3, not sure 1 or 2 would run without a lot of work but the Q1 disc plays in an audio CD player so you can listen to that cool NIN soundtrack. All games played to death in their time.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on November 07, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
I can tell you Quake1 runs fine on Win7/10.  Sometimes you will run a slightly newer EXE than what was on the CD, GLquake or something fancier and newer, "winquake" probably still works well.  Quake2 goes too, i have them on steam. and CD
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: TheMikrobe on November 08, 2017, 03:54:52 AM
Nice, I'll have to try it. I'd played a little bit of Doom 2 and maybe Duke Nukem 3D came earlier too, but the originals of Quake and Diablo are what I remember as my first proper gaming experiences.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on November 08, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
Last year I played The Final Doom (from Steam)  and actually finished those campaigns properly on Ultra Violence.  It was worth the effort and ran well.   Lots of older 90s things which previously were unable to find are popping up online which is cool.

I still have a small list I'm looking for.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Kasferatu on November 08, 2017, 02:20:43 PM
99.89% of games with MP are dead.  Of course anything older than 6 months that still has a community alive is special.
What an oddly specific percentage...

I had to buy a new Switch and games since my old one got stolen a couple months back. Other than Disgaea (which I burnt out on without completing - zero story and hollow loot/character progression systems), I've been re-playing Zelda and messing around with Wonderboy 3 (which is awesome). I need a new RPG and have my eye on two which are out in about 3 weeks: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Battle Chasers: Nightwar.

Has anyone here played previous Xenoblade games or Battle Chasers on PS4? Worth getting?

I absolutely loved Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii.  It was a total JRPG though so if that isn't your bag then it's hard to recommend.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Timinator on November 08, 2017, 03:25:49 PM
I found out I have played and really enjoyed a Visual Novel style game in the past.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_Department_2192  It mixed a lot of dialogue between top down missions.  I see that game came out as freeware 10 years ago
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on November 08, 2017, 10:46:39 PM
Finished Yakuza 0 at around 130 hours played.  Game's got a lot of content, although the quality is somewhat imbalanced.  There are lots of really gripping dramatic moments early on, but they tail off by the end (or just get more predictable), and since it's a prequel to the rest of the series it was fairly clear how things would turn out.  Some of the mini-games are quite fun like the karaoke, the cabaret club, bowling, and pool, but then some are so hard (like the batting cages, or the scantily-clad-women cage fighting) or so dull (like fishing, or the weapon/gear searching) that getting 100% completion is not a fun prospect.  The game includes original arcade versions of Outrun, Space Harrier, FantasyZone and Super Hang-On, as well as using likenesses and videos of real-life Japanese models/idols for most of the female NPCs.  The tone is intentionally all over the place with the cutscenes and battles being especially brutal and serious, whereas the sidequests are crazy like bowling a turkey to win a chicken and then making it a manager of your businesses, or protecting Michael Jackson from zombies while he shoots a music video.  There's a mini-game for talking to women on the phone.  Heh, Japan.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on November 18, 2017, 02:57:07 PM
Elex: (http://store.steampowered.com/app/411300/)

What happens when a German game developer says "we should combine Fallout, Mass Effect, and Skyrim into one game."

It's pretty awesome. A bit janky but not as bad as previous Piranha Bytes games (Gothic, etc).

Axes, swords, plasma weapons, explosives, magic, psi powers, and chems all in one open-world RPG? Sign me up!

Worth checking out.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Sssith on November 18, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
Another game to add to wish list it seems.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: Pixie on November 18, 2017, 11:03:57 PM
I just played it for like 8 straight hours.

It's purty good.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on January 08, 2018, 04:46:05 PM
Just finished up Persona 5 last night.  Quite a ride.

Good:
Art Style - I'm not a huge fan of anime art in general, but the details they put into a lot of the characters and monsters make it clear they put a LOT of work into it.  Since the characters are "Phantom Thieves" it makes sense for their garb and animations to be flashy as hell.
UI - Every menu is meticulously crafted with custom art, and many of the stores have their own special music and animations.
Soundtrack - Mostly Jazz, R&B, with some Rock for boss battles, but the way they are used is what is excellent.
Tone - The game's primary theme of breaking chains/reforming society/helping others stays consistent throughout the story and is enhanced by the music, art style and transitions.

Bad:
Time Constraints - A little too strict, especially when 30-70% of your "days until deadline" are completely taking up by cutscenes that shouldn't logically take all day like they do.  There's a part of the story where you are no longer in school yet you still get the same amount of time per day to do things (basically you sleep until school would be out for no reason).
Final Area/Boss - As cliche as it gets for JRPGs lately. 
Mixed Character Development - Your party members are slowly introduced throughout the story, and thus you are extremely limited on time with some of the later ones to learn their personal stories.  Other than talking about the missions at hand, there are very few lines between your confidants with each other to add more depth to their relationships (as in many RPGs you are the "hub").
Dungeons - There are 2 types, ones that is randomly generated, and ones that are specially crafted.  Both are repetitive to a frustrating degree, though at least the crafted ones give you special set pieces and environmental puzzles.
Title: Re: General gaming chatter
Post by: maxbeedo on January 12, 2018, 12:37:49 AM
I might also mention that one of the love interests in Persona 5 is super smart, perceptive, friendly to everyone, uses martial arts, wears spiky Biker gear, rides a nuclear motorcycle that becomes a Transformer, has an ability called "Shadow Calculus", and asks you to take her to an arcade as a first date.  I mean, holy f***ing sh**.  8)  As she wants to become a police commissioner, and you sneak around in a mask and black cape, she's Barbara Gordon to your Batman.