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Title: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on October 28, 2017, 11:27:59 AM
The next season of Diablo will be upon us soon! I'm undecided which class I want to play at this point. Barbarian is calling my name, as I loved the old HOTA/IK build. I am tempted by Demon Hunter, but I have a pretty decent one in non-season. I'm also really intrigued by the Necromancer again - the pestilence set intrigued me when they first came out, and now that is one of the top GR builds in the game.

I love having so many great options, though!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on October 28, 2017, 12:12:14 PM
I agree Ray.  Lots of viable and fun options.  Every class has a couple of good builds to go with.  Which class to play will be a tough decision.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on October 29, 2017, 03:12:21 PM
I'll give the necro a shot in SC to get the sets
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 10, 2017, 07:56:10 AM
How did everyone progress last night? I got on a couple hours after the start, but I had quite a bit of luck on my side to start the season. After getting the Challenge Rift reward, I gambled a Bracers of Destruction on my 4th attempt. I spent the rest of my shards hoping for a Band of Might, but didn't end up getting one. After getting to level 40, I crafted a two-handed mace with -21 level requirements on the very first try! I didn't have to re-roll it at all.

I ended up calling it a night at 1:30am, after hitting level 64 or 65 - I was too tired, and I don't remember. I got paired up with a pretty good group of guys who knew what they were doing, which made for a good first night. Can't wait to play tonight, and start getting my set pieces.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 10, 2017, 05:29:20 PM
Started a crusader name Ssscorn.  Re-learning how to play.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 11, 2017, 01:08:26 PM
I managed about an hour and a half of play yesterday. Spent the first hour grinding my rebirthed DH on Hard and by the time I came back online later in the evening one of my EU flatmates was P260 and boosted me to 70 and helped me with a GR30 for a BotP..

Now I just need to put in some time ticking off seasonal achievements to start getting my set pieces.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 12, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Well I think I am figuring out the Crusader.  Almost done with Act II.  Playing on Torment and I am getting by pretty well (maybe a bit squishy though I have not died once yet).  Already level 45 which seems ridiculous.  Is there even such a thing as Normal, Nightmare, Hell?  If so why?  I think I am one normal given it is my first play through.  But there doesn't seem to be a need for such things.

At this point I main playing with a build around holy damage.  Given that I have damage spikes of over 75k I assume I am doing something right.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 12, 2017, 02:53:33 PM
Woah!! SSith is playing again!

First off, almost no one ever plays the campaign anymore except the rare situation like yourself playing a character for the first time, and myself now with the necro before I killed him.   As you say, being 45 in act 2 is very different to the terrible grind of the previous 4 linear difficulty settings.  This happened over 3 years ago https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/12671560/patch-201-now-live-2-25-2014

before level 70 just do whatever you want, after level 70 all your current gear will be trashed anyway. 

Good to have you back!

hopefully you are playing in the season, if not, do that!  You get a FULL set for finishing the 4th chapter you see here.  https://d3resource.com/journey/

You can do it relatively simple solo, or much faster with help which will be there if you want it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 12, 2017, 03:04:45 PM
I am thinking on finishing the regular play through since I have not seen Act V or what ever it is called.

This character is in the Season.  So eventually I will start working on finishing the achievements.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Pixie on November 12, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
Last night I started a necromancer named Aeris. Also kind of re-learning how to play.

I don't expect to get far or accomplish much since I'm way too casual for season play, but whatever. I'll have fun with it while it lasts. :D

I am running through the campaign since I haven't done it with necro, plus I really have a hard time playing a game without some sort of structure to it. Just playing on hard for now, but I'll probably bump it up soon.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 12, 2017, 05:52:40 PM
SSsithy.  I enjoyed Act V the first time I saw it, some some different types of environments, the story got moved along (yes it has faults of course).  New monsters etc are always interesting to learn what is fodder and what will challenge you.  Enjoy the big boss at the end, its the toughest fight in the campaign.

GG on the achievements ;)  Solid plan.

I might see you both in game with my level 6 necro.  In the past I would play a few hours at the start of a season and rush to 70.  I can't be bothered going too nuts at the moment
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 13, 2017, 05:59:42 AM
I'm looking at the Season rewards and wondering....why play seasonal?

Only reason is for MP it seems, the rewards are lackluster...

edit: I should clarify...the cosmetic rewards are fairly good (angelic wings, portrait), but I want banners and pets :(
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 13, 2017, 09:09:38 AM
Is there even such a thing as Normal, Nightmare, Hell?

Nope, there is no more Normal, Nightmare, Hell, and Inferno difficulties.  There are difficulties you set at the start of a game session and that range from Normal, Hard, Expert, Master, and Torments (1 thru 13).  You can change these at anytime so you aren't locked into one.  Most of the good items only drop in torment difficulties, so if you can handle T1 or higher, stay there.  The game now is basically about getting to lvl 70, doing bouties, rifts, and greater rifts.  It is so much better than 5 yrs ago.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 13, 2017, 12:12:03 PM
I'm looking at the Season rewards and wondering....why play seasonal?

Only reason is for MP it seems, the rewards are lackluster...

edit: I should clarify...the cosmetic rewards are fairly good (angelic wings, portrait), but I want banners and pets :(

I do it mainly for the fresh start. The stash tab rewards were nice, but I've been capped out on those for a while now. I've been trying to play characters that I haven't played in a while, just to keep it fresh and different.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM
I play seasonal for the fresh start.  With billions in gold and thousands of crafting materials and gems, not to mention Paragon Points and Gems of Ease, it's too easy to start a character and be Level 70 in like half an hour.

I like the challenge of starting with nothing.  I like learning how to play the game again, or at least play that class again.  And when Legendaries drop that I otherwise wouldn't even look at twice, but which are the best thing I have for that slot, I check them out.  Some skill I never use now does an extra 400% damage or something?  Okay, I'll try it out.

Given the choice, I tend not to wander from the safe, comfortable stuff I'm familiar with.  So in a twisted kind of way, I like not having the choice, and I end up doing a bunch of stuff I wouldn't have otherwise done.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 13, 2017, 02:32:47 PM
I'm playing a hardcore wizard to start this season.  Going Vyr's for now, but not sure how long I'll stick with that.  Eventually I want to use a non-archon build, like a Tal Rasha channeling build or something using energy twister, the twisted sword, and ranslor's folly bracers.  I just need to round up all the gear first.  It's always fun at the start of the season with everything being new again.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 13, 2017, 03:37:06 PM
For me, one of the main reasons as well as the "Fresh start" which doesnt' last that long is getting a full set basically for free.  Especially as old gear is made redundant.

There are some who focus on non season.  But the bulk seems to be in season if you want to play with someone (you do).  99% of the time, playing with others is always a good thing
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 13, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
Damn you guys and your sound reasoning
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 13, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Back from your holidays now melch melch?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 13, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
playing an IK barb so far this season. currently trying to get over that feeling you get when you spend all your crafting mats trying to improve a mediocre piece of gear and then an ancient version drops on the very next rift. also had two of the same unique mace drop from a single chest yesterday. take that, Sssith. :P
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 13, 2017, 05:00:28 PM
I'm having some good RNG so far this season. I got a few hours of play in yesterday, and got from P80 to just over P300. By the time I was done I had found a couple decent ancient set pieces, two Furnaces (one Ancient), an ancient Gavel of Judgement, a Little Rogue, two Slanderers, a BK Warrior Blood and then crafted a BK Solemn Vow on my first attempt!

I'm running an IK6/R4 build to speed to rifts, but I can't wait to try out the Istvan HotA build!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Pixie on November 13, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Apparently the game really wants me to have two of every unique it gives me.

"Oh, Leoric's Crown. Neat."
"Huh. Another one. I guess Leoric mass produced these..."
"Goldwrap... And another Goldwrap..."
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 13, 2017, 05:30:36 PM
Back from your holidays now melch melch?

Yes Timmeh, decided to focus on my HC characters off-season though.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 14, 2017, 07:18:27 AM
At lower levels, there are only certain legendaries that drop.  Leoric's crown is one of them.  It is a good low level helm to use since putting a ruby in it will really help you level up.  I wore a lvl 18 version of it until I was in my 60s leveling up my seasonal character.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on November 14, 2017, 10:22:28 PM
Some changes I have noticed with this patch/season; 1) the smart drops seems to be a lower percentage than before, I get more
non class drops 2). there seems to be an increased number of goblins, almost one on every rift 3). new monsters with new powers
4). The new buffs seem to make your toon very powerful, very fast. no waiting for an ancient.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 16, 2017, 10:27:50 AM
Well I am in Act V.  So far I have only had one death and that was me being careless.  I finished Act IV at level 70 and Paragon 2.  I haven't used my paragon points yet.  I assume you can reassign them as you change your build around?

Any quick pointers as to what to do with the Mystic?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 16, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Yes, you can reassign paragon points at any time.

The Mystic is extremely important.  The most basic thing to do early on is to add a socket to a weapon.  You can reroll one property on any item though, so it's great for taking a not so great piece of gear and making it very good.  You need a forgotten soul and a deaths breath to change the property on a legendary or set item.  She also can transmog gear to look different if you like that kind of thing. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 16, 2017, 02:35:53 PM
I guess I could see transmogging a helm.  While some are good I hate the look of some of the helms.

Good to know about the socket.  I have vague memories of people wishing they could add a socket to a unique or kickass rare.  The changing of the attribute seems odd.  You get to choose which attribute you want to reroll?  So if you get a really good item with an important bad roll you can try to fix it?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 16, 2017, 02:47:06 PM
You get to choose which attribute you want to reroll?  So if you get a really good item with an important bad roll you can try to fix it?

yes and yes. you can re-roll an attribute as often as you want, but once you've selected one attribute to change you can't modify anything else. for most items, the amount of gold needed increases with each roll. for non-seasonal gear you probably have enough gold that this will never be an issue, but starting out in a new season it can be a limiting factor. a few items (jewelry) require gems rather than gold and that cost doesn't escalate, but otherwise it's all the same.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 16, 2017, 02:51:03 PM
How long does a season last?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 16, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
variable but generally around 3 months, i think?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 16, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
also, for really good ancient weapons, better to use ramaladni's gizmo (a semi-rare drop but not terribly rare by the time you're able to run high torment rifts) to add a socket and use the mystic to add something else- you can roll the socket off for something else in those cases, if the item dropped with a socket already.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 16, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
I started my season slowly soloing in Hard with a rebirthed DH, but was able.to get a boost to 70 then got carried through 4 or 5 T13 rifts for SO and gear last night also scoring the all important Dawn. Now I need to work out what difficty I can hardly solo to finish off CH3 and 4.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 16, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
The others have handled most of your questions.  Enjoy Act V, then go to Adventure mode.  Press Shift and J at some point to see the Seasonal Journey. I'm guessing you just need to do 5 bounties and a Rift to finish chapter 1 now.    You don't get a reward for chapter 1, but you'll be close to finishing chapter 2 when you'll get TWO pieces of an end game set.  Next 2 chapters are 2 more pieces each. 

Having 6 pieces of a set, even if the rest of your gear is average will give you a whole new world of power.  Did you/do you MP much?  I suggest get in a MP game and you'll get some quick paragons.  Getting up to paragon 200 won't take too long, this will let you max the first of your stats  Have you heard of the Icy-Veins site?  https://www.icy-veins.com/d3/crusader-builds  This will let you know what skills/gear to go for.   Until you have some gear, just get what is fun and works.  That site also tells you which mods to reroll with the Mystic.  Or I prefer the Supermatt app ;)

In terms of MP, DO IT!  you get rewarded with better everything for not being solo.  You won't be a burden being in a game, and you won't miss out on anything compared to our old D2 single player days.  You'll probably be invited into games before you ask anyway :P  You will do a normal rift (even if you aren't killing) and get a Greater Rift Token.  The stronger person might do a few of these, then its on to Greater Rifts (GRs).    the EXP and rewards are much better here. 


At some point, I'd suggest getting those other 2 level 60 characters and even if you craft some gear you might get upgrades.  Hit level 61 and all their existing stuff will be trashed quickly. Those legendaries they currently have, the newer versions have much better things on them. 

In some ways I envy you, you have a lot of potential fun in front of you!

Any quick pointers as to what to do with the Mystic?

Buy her a drink at least!! Don't let your wife find out you have a new NPC on the side.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 18, 2017, 02:17:28 PM
I've skipped running Nats set straight to Marauder (first non-Nat I completed) G45 down so o ward's and upwards.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 18, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
Well I finished the campaign.  So was that ending a nod to D4 or to the next expansion?

The game is so different than when I left.  I had over 300 hours on my Monk alone, lvl 60 P37.  I have around forty hours on my Crusader, lvl 70 P45 or so.  Just insane.  Overall I think this is a good thing, I don't really like the grind of normal, nightmare, and hell. 

At this point I am in chapter 3.  I just got my Kaine Cube (sp I am sure).  No clue what to do with it, I'm sure Zoltan has an idea or two.  I just did my first rift and got a stone for a greater rift.  Should I save those up?  Do people still farm hell fire rings?  What should I being aiming for at this point.  Right now I am mainly trying to complete Chapters in the Season.  When doing bounties and rifts do you recommend doing full clears?  Going as fast as possible?  Interesting that there are new areas that I have never seen in the campaign.

Once more into the fray.

edit: And yes I would MP with you fools.  Not that I really have a clue yet.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 19, 2017, 12:25:14 AM
The first three chapters were pretty easy.  The fourth doesn't look as easy.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 19, 2017, 01:18:52 AM
Next expansion? The expansion was 3.5 years ago.  We got the necro .. and one or 2 free bits.  There is almost no chance of more paid content to expand on D3.  This year had almost 0 coverage at Blizzcon.  Every other franchise is the new exciting thing.

Next step, join in some MP with whoever you see, tell them what you need in Chapter 3 .. they will help you tick stuff off the list! Onto more rewards. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 20, 2017, 07:20:45 AM
Well I finished the campaign.  So was that ending a nod to D4 or to the next expansion?

The game is so different than when I left.  I had over 300 hours on my Monk alone, lvl 60 P37.  I have around forty hours on my Crusader, lvl 70 P45 or so.  Just insane.  Overall I think this is a good thing, I don't really like the grind of normal, nightmare, and hell. 

At this point I am in chapter 3.  I just got my Kaine Cube (sp I am sure).  No clue what to do with it, I'm sure Zoltan has an idea or two.  I just did my first rift and got a stone for a greater rift.  Should I save those up?  Do people still farm hell fire rings?  What should I being aiming for at this point.  Right now I am mainly trying to complete Chapters in the Season.  When doing bounties and rifts do you recommend doing full clears?  Going as fast as possible?  Interesting that there are new areas that I have never seen in the campaign.

Once more into the fray.

edit: And yes I would MP with you fools.  Not that I really have a clue yet.

Congrats on finishing the campaign.  Now you can concentrate on Adventure Mode (Bounties, Rifts, Greater Rifts).  Also, donít forget to do the challenge rift on a weekly basis (below adventure mode on the game settings screen).  If you complete the challenge rift in time you will get a cache will crafting materials in it.  It is worthwhile to do every week.

Use the greater rift stones to run greater rifts and get legendary gems, then level those gems up.  Legendary gems are really powerful and can only be socketed into rings and amulets.  Most people donít do full clears when doing rifts or bounties.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on November 20, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Full clears if you're out to smell the flowers and enjoy some of the detail Blizz has packed into D3 and dial up the speed depending on how fast you want to progress.

There are several different ways to enjoy 'end game' D3 although you don't hear much about people's objectives like you did in D2. Some people concentrate on HC, others enjoy challenging higher Greater Rifts, working through different builds and character classes, collecting achievements and cosmetics or a combo platter of all of the above.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 20, 2017, 12:24:49 PM
That all sounds good.  Is there a set of the legendary stones that are considered to be optimal? 

I also had a weird drop of a spider (Charlotte I think) no clue what to do with it.  I did all the key wardens at T4.  That was pushing my character.  At this point I am unable to kill Urzeal (sp? Act V).

I figure I need to grid a bit to get my character more powerful.  Is there a way to target a set of Vampbraces?  I forget the name of them but they reduce the wrath cost of my of my hammers.

My other two goals to reduce the cooldown time of Akarat's Champion so I can have it up more often and to just up my dps.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on November 20, 2017, 12:50:36 PM
Full clears if you're out to smell the flowers and enjoy some of the detail Blizz has packed into D3 and dial up the speed depending on how fast you want to progress.

There are several different ways to enjoy 'end game' D3 although you don't hear much about people's objectives like you did in D2. Some people concentrate on HC, others enjoy challenging higher Greater Rifts, working through different builds and character classes, collecting achievements and cosmetics or a combo platter of all of the above.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 20, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
GG on the keywardens, you are right, at that point they are a bit of a challenge but as you found, you can get them. 

In terms of the Vambraces, you have 2 options to get set/legendary items outside of random drops or friends finding stuff and dropping it for you. 
1) Get a Rare version of the item, and there is a cube recipe to upgrade to legendary.  This is best for upgrading weapons due to good value for resources
2) You will be getting blood shards (another resource) spend those at an NPC called Kadala.  You gamble for an item type, you'll get either blue, yellow, green or gold!

Its just a matter of time and you'll get the gear you need to make your build nice and strong. Then you work on rerolling a thing, or finding stronger/ancient versions of your gear.

When you do have Best in Slot (BiS) gear, it doesn't mean you have the best, with the various types of attributes, let alone the rolls, you might have the best vambraces, but it had all the wrong mods.  Later you might get one with all the right ones and get a massive increase.