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General Category => The Argument Chamber => Topic started by: Timinator on April 05, 2017, 11:52:23 PM

Title: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on April 05, 2017, 11:52:23 PM
So, gas attack in Syria.  Use lots of words, condemn your predecessor, say "lines have been crossed" but you won't do anything about it.

Buck stops with you now.

Also Bannon out of the NSC is good.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: nanenj on April 06, 2017, 06:41:07 AM
It really won't be good until the angry orange troll is impeached.

Getting Bannon out of the NSC is a little like 'Well, now it's not -as- evil.'
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Ray Patean on April 06, 2017, 10:59:25 AM
Nunes is out as head of House Intelligence Committee. Seems like Trump cronies are getting out of positions of power, perhaps before some more damning evidence comes out? It'll be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on April 06, 2017, 01:35:18 PM


Also Bannon out of the NSC is good.

He's still going to the meetings.

He's just no longer on the principals committee.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on April 06, 2017, 02:29:15 PM
He is such an asshat.

Sorry but I think I mentioned that about 30 times in the last thread and I thought this thread was missing a dash of the obvious.

Bannon out is in theory good news.  But Trump is King Dickus of Window Dressing.  Meaning that the Bannon is still in the White House.  He still has the ear of the president.  And, as Syn notes, still attending the meetings.  All of the this to say that I doubt anything has really changed.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on April 06, 2017, 08:52:02 PM
So, gas attack in Syria.  Use lots of words, condemn your predecessor, say "lines have been crossed" but you won't do anything about it.

Buck stops with you now.

Well, he decided to shoot about sixty cruise missiles at a Syrian airbase. That's almost as expensive as ten of his weekend golf trips. What a bargain.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on April 06, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Well, they are the good guys, the ones they bombed are the bad guys.  How could it be more complex than that?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on April 07, 2017, 04:48:02 AM
Accurate satire
http://newsthump.com/2017/04/07/use-of-chemical-weapons-bad-enough-to-bomb-syria-but-not-bad-enough-take-in-refugees-confirms-trump/
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on April 07, 2017, 08:35:06 AM
Accurate satire
http://newsthump.com/2017/04/07/use-of-chemical-weapons-bad-enough-to-bomb-syria-but-not-bad-enough-take-in-refugees-confirms-trump/
I was thinking the same thing this week.  He was so outraged by the chemical attack on the babies, but he can't be bothered to let the babies come to our country as refugees.  Asshat.   ::)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: hurtlocker on April 12, 2017, 12:30:35 PM
I guess we really need to be careful that we don't bother poor Ivanka, or she will order an
air strike on your ass. 

How the fuck is this shoe salesman getting access to classified military planning?? The fact that
you have clearance DOES NOT mean you have a need to know, that's basic security 101.

Don't get me started on the son in law.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on April 12, 2017, 06:23:02 PM
don't worry, they might forget where you live before they launch the strike:

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“So what happens is, I said, we just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq—”
-trump, in an interview on foxnews today. (http://theslot.jezebel.com/trump-inaccurately-remembers-where-he-recently-launched-1794254147?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

or they'll call ahead to warn you it's going to happen (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-us-warned-the-russians-ahead-of-syria-missile-strikes-official.html) (russia would never tell syria what's about to happen, would they?),

or they'll simply fail to disable what they're shooting at (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/syrian-warplanes-take-air-base-bombed-us-tomahawks/).

otoh, their press secretary might say you're worse than hitler (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/us/politics/sean-spicer-hitler-gas-holocaust-center.html?_r=0), and that'll really sting.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 01, 2017, 06:16:26 PM
so my threshold for posting insane things this gibbering idiot says has risen, but here's this for your reading displeasure: Trump’s totally bizarre claim about avoiding the Civil War (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/01/trumps-totally-bizarre-claim-about-avoiding-the-civil-war/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.8627614f2b5c)

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 02, 2017, 07:47:37 AM
so my threshold for posting insane things this gibbering idiot says has risen, but here's this for your reading displeasure: Trump’s totally bizarre claim about avoiding the Civil War (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/01/trumps-totally-bizarre-claim-about-avoiding-the-civil-war/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.8627614f2b5c)



He might be the dumbest current world leader.  I'm not sure who could rival his idiocy.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on May 04, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
So how many Americans will lose their insurance, or can't afford it anymore soon?  Hopefully enough in the swing states for the 2018 bit, then the 2020 president election
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 04, 2017, 06:02:02 PM
So how many Americans will lose their insurance, or can't afford it anymore soon?

short answer, lots. CBO score is pending but the score on the previous iteration was something on the order of 10s of millions of people. probably a substantial underestimate based on what's been added on.

senate leadership announced that there're more or less starting from scratch (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/4/1658999/-Senate-already-telling-House-thanks-but-no-thanks-on-Trumpcare), anyway. they also announced they're looking for 51 votes, so presumably they're looking to pass something through reconciliation. trump called on them to trash the filibuster if necessary, but mcconnell claims that's not going to happen. who knows if he backtracks on that.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 07, 2017, 07:18:44 PM
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David Frum‏Verified account
@davidfrum

Going to be awkward at 5/25 Nato summit when Merkel, May, & Macron have to switch to non-classified topics when the US president joins them

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 09, 2017, 07:55:30 PM
per the NYT:

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Mr. Comey was addressing a group of F.B.I. employees in Los Angeles when a television in the background flashed the news that he had been fired.

In response, Mr. Comey laughed, saying he thought it was a fairly funny prank.

Then his staff started scurrying around in the background and told Mr. Comey that he should step into a nearby office.

Mr. Comey stopped addressing the group. He proceeded to shake hands with the employees he had been speaking to. Then he stepped into a side office, where he confirmed that he had been fired. At that point, he had not heard from the White House.

Shortly thereafter, a letter from Mr. Trump was delivered to the F.B.I.’s headquarters, just seven blocks from the White House.

Mr. Comey’s day had begun in Florida, where he spoke to a group of police officers. He then flew to Los Angeles, where he was also scheduled to speak at a diversity meeting.

— Michael S. Schmidt

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 10, 2017, 09:21:09 AM
I just fired the guy who's heading the investigation into my campaign's ties Russia.  Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on May 10, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
I just fired the guy who's heading the investigation into my campaign's ties Russia.  Nothing to see here.

And he just hired legal council to handle this matter.
 ::)

Situation Normal All Fucked Up
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Reigns on May 10, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
Oh but didn't you hear?  He's been considering this since day one.  But he sportingly wanted to give old bean pole a 'change'
 ::)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on May 10, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
A fun read.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/9/15590962/donald-trump-thinks-exercise-will-kill-you
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 10, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Quote
Nate Silver‏Verified account
@NateSilver538

Betting markets have had the probability of Trump not finishing out his term rise to ~50% since the Comey firing. Was around 40% pre-Comey.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 11, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
"I have a certified letter. I'm not just saying that. It says I'm not involved in Russia." trump, today.

ok then.

he keeps this up, he's gonna get removed on medical grounds.

edit:
from the same interview today,
"When I decided to [fire Comey], I said to myself, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story."

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 12, 2017, 12:50:20 PM
He's mental.  No way this guy lasts a full term.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on May 12, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
I dunno. I'm not convinced the republican majority in Congress has the balls to do anything to get rid of him.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on May 12, 2017, 01:57:13 PM
Stephen Fry Explains Why Some People Believe Everything Donald Trump Says (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stephen-fry-explains-lies_us_591550ebe4b00f308cf4323c)

Very interesting from my POV.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 12, 2017, 07:52:27 PM
I dunno. I'm not convinced the republican majority in Congress has the balls to do anything to get rid of him.

+1. ryan is spineless.

if we can survive to 2018, things may change.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 15, 2017, 06:26:37 PM
Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2c67eb85528a).

oops.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 15, 2017, 07:10:33 PM
Lock him up!
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: narsica on May 16, 2017, 12:00:57 AM
http://www.lawfareblog.com/bombshell-initial-thoughts-washington-posts-game-changing-story (http://www.lawfareblog.com/bombshell-initial-thoughts-washington-posts-game-changing-story)

Pretty good thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 16, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news).

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Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. It was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of it to a Times reporter.

“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, according to the memo. “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”

Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey that Mr. Flynn had done nothing wrong, according to the memo.

Mr. Comey did not say anything to Mr. Trump about curtailing the investigation, only replying: “I agree he is a good guy.”

In a statement, the White House denied the version of events in the memo.

“While the president has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn,” the statement said. “The president has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations. This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey.”


Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Lego on May 16, 2017, 11:41:06 PM
Turns out he also asked Comey to imprison journalists. Trump is like a whole century's worth of scandals in a single day.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on May 17, 2017, 03:48:44 AM
It must upset him that Maduro is better at going full dictator while Trump still has checks and balances to slow him down.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 17, 2017, 07:17:27 AM
Everyday there is something new.  Amazing.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on May 17, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
Got Impeachment?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on May 17, 2017, 05:12:45 PM
Still not gonna happen. Not with a Republican majority led by Spineless Ryan. And even if the House does do it, the Senate needs a 2/3 majority to convict on it.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on May 17, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
Maybe so.  But I think we are heading toward a hearing.  It might have to wait until after the mid-terms.  If the general population gets pissed off enough it might proceed sooner.  People do all sorts of things to save their jobs.  The heat on the GOP is increasing.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 17, 2017, 06:15:23 PM
this increases the chance: Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Jazz on May 17, 2017, 07:07:55 PM
Appointed by W, so can't be attacked too heavily as partisan.  Inspired appointment.

Also, this:  https://www.c-span.org/video/?428495-2/representative-al-green-calls-trump-impeachment

I was worried the Dems would sit on their hands, rather than push for this and have the GOP defend why they won't go forward. 
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 18, 2017, 08:06:51 AM
What a great day yesterday was!  The Deputy AG did something I did not think he had the balls to do.  Bravo!
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on May 18, 2017, 10:59:44 AM
So Michael Flynn has decided he won't honor a Senate Intelligence committee subpoena for documents regarding Russia.

WTF? When did a subpoena become optional?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 18, 2017, 02:28:20 PM
So Michael Flynn has decided he won't honor a Senate Intelligence committee subpoena for documents regarding Russia.

WTF? When did a subpoena become optional?

it's optional if you don't mind going to jail. depends on whether senator burr is serious or not. betting that if burr isn't serious (who wants some easy money?), mueller will be.

thought this was interesting:

Report: Trump Told Flynn, Who Is Seeking Immunity to Testify Before Congress, to “Stay Strong” (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/18/trump_message_to_flynn_stay_strong.html)

think burr would do anything if trump told flynn not to testify? witness tampering ftw.

update: senator burr is now saying that flynn hasn't refused to cooperate; he simply has not yet responded to the subpoena. don't hold your breath on this one.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 19, 2017, 08:29:14 PM
the hits just keep coming...

Report: Trump Told Russians He Fired 'Nut Job' Comey Because Of Investigation (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/529171249/report-trump-told-russians-he-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170519)

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"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump told the Russian foreign minister and U.S. ambassador on May 10 during an Oval Office meeting, according to a transcript of the meeting read to The Times by a U.S. official. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

White House press secretary Sean Spicer did not dispute the account of the conversation to The Times and, in a statement to NPR, argued that the Russia investigation was harming U.S. foreign policy.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 20, 2017, 08:21:58 AM
But, but, "unfair", "witch hunt"...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 22, 2017, 08:30:24 AM
jesus christ, wilbur ross is dumbfounded that there was no one protesting trump in saudi arabia (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-model-society).

the epitome of civil society, SA is.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 25, 2017, 07:11:10 AM
Trump minion running for congress in Montana can't handle answering questions. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/25/fox-news-crew-watched-in-disbelief-as-gianforte-slammed-and-punched-reporter/?utm_term=.34b229f80e81)

The amazing thing is that the special election is today!  This guy is not fit to represent people.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on May 25, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
Sadly most people had already voted.  Now that asshat is going to be facing criminal charges, and he still might be elected.

Then there is Trump at a NATO meeting shoving a Prime Minister out of the way so he can be in the front row.

Then there is Trump vowing to plug the leaks and yet he is one of the main people leaking our secrets.

Then there are two NATO allies who no longer want to share intelligence with the US.

Then there...fuck I am tired of this shit.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 25, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
Sadly most people had already voted.  Now that asshat is going to be facing criminal charges, and he still might be elected.

Then there is Trump at a NATO meeting shoving a Prime Minister out of the way so he can be in the front row.

Then there is Trump vowing to plug the leaks and yet he is one of the main people leaking our secrets.

Then there are two NATO allies who no longer want to share intelligence with the US.

Then there...fuck I am tired of this shit.

+1 cookie given   
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Kasferatu on May 25, 2017, 02:06:27 PM
This made me chuckle: https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/867756328336343040 (https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/867756328336343040)

He's such a manchild.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 25, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
This made me chuckle: https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/867756328336343040 (https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/867756328336343040)

He's such a manchild.

looked like he tried to arm-wrestle macron when he finally shook his hand.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on May 25, 2017, 04:28:16 PM
Trump's goddamn grab-and-yank handshake is the weirdest fucking thing. I can't decide if it's some kind of power play, or he's just that completely lacking in social awareness, or if it's simple stupidity.

Trump and Macron in the handshake duel earlier was priceless though.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 25, 2017, 05:36:44 PM
Trump's goddamn grab-and-yank handshake is the weirdest fucking thing. I can't decide if it's some kind of power play, or he's just that completely lacking in social awareness, or if it's simple stupidity.

all of the above?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on May 25, 2017, 06:13:20 PM
I read something about it, they say body language experts read into about that he pulls them into his personal space showing physical strength, dominance and other things.  Basically a non verbal way to say, I'm a jerk and I'm going to get away with it.

In the past if anyone tried to do anything to counter it, he wouldn't do business or sue them.  Now he has the secret service to back him up lol
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 25, 2017, 07:03:27 PM
trudeau beat him at his game at their first meeting.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/the-handshake-trudeau-resists-trump-jerk-and-pull-1.3284460

it got an insane amount of attention when it happened.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: narsica on May 25, 2017, 11:23:54 PM
Our PM is handsome *and* strong, though.

(https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2016/04/02/trudeau-yoga-pose-stories-pose-their-own-threat-teitel/trudeau-yoga.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 26, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
this seems like kind of a big deal: Kushner Discussed Setting Up Secret Communications With Russia (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/26/530297344/report-kushner-discussed-setting-up-secret-communications-with-russia?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170526). what qualifies, these days...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Jazz on May 30, 2017, 08:23:21 AM
Trump's goddamn grab-and-yank handshake is the weirdest fucking thing. I can't decide if it's some kind of power play, or he's just that completely lacking in social awareness, or if it's simple stupidity.

Trump and Macron in the handshake duel earlier was priceless though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-handshake-emmanuel-macron-nato-psychology-a7762026.html
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on May 31, 2017, 06:06:26 AM
Covfefe
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on May 31, 2017, 08:00:45 AM
Covfefe
He is such a child.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Godji on May 31, 2017, 08:13:56 AM
Covfefe
He is such a child.

To be fair, seeing this make the news, and at a much louder volume than almost any real issue, is a major part of the problem. Of course his typos and crazy handshakes make him look silly, but who gives a f*** ? These aren't exactly the topics which should need addressing. Lunatic way to prioritize information and get diverted from actual, important topics.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on May 31, 2017, 03:58:50 PM
what, like Merkel saying that the EU can no longer count on the US? or that trump refuses to affirm NATO article 5 (the part that says an attack on one is an attack on all, the part that drew everyone to our defense after 9/11)? or the part about trump planning to withdraw from the paris climate agreement? meh, that's serious stuff that might actually require a few brain cells to rub together. way too hard. and, BOOOORING......

i agree with you completely. the dipshit tweets certainly distract. i can't wait until this ******* is history.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Kasferatu on June 01, 2017, 01:49:53 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40127326 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40127326)

Thanks for wrecking the planet for our children Trump, you cockwomble.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: sam_manzanza on June 01, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40127326 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40127326)

Thanks for wrecking the planet for our children Trump, you cockwomble.
Fuckin' appalling.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on June 01, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
I hope he lives long enough to see all his changes undone
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on June 01, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
We don't want other countries laughing at us anymore.


But ... but....

/sigh/
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Ray Patean on June 03, 2017, 08:10:28 PM
The covfefe B.S. is only a story because Spicer came out and said that the people who matter know what it meant.

If he said, "Oh, lol, it was just an obvious typo and he meant to say 'coverage ' but didn't realize it before hitting submit" then there would be no story. He made this into something it never should've gotten to, and he only has himself to blame.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on June 05, 2017, 02:57:31 PM
Maybe we need to ban all white males from entering into Florida now (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-sheriff-to-describe-multiple-shooting-in-orlando/2017/06/05/68f8325e-49f9-11e7-987c-42ab5745db2e_story.html?utm_term=.32faa9a39491#comments)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on June 05, 2017, 11:06:08 PM
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/93382262/birdflipping-welcome-for-us-secretary-of-state-rex-tillerson-in-new-zealand

We don't hate all Americans, but as seen in this thread the administration isn't popular outside of places that voted for trump.

Lol @ this "US media travelling with Tillerson were surprised by the number of people flipping the bird at Tillerson as his motorcade sped through town."
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Cluck Kent on June 06, 2017, 10:09:18 AM
Maybe we need to ban all white males from entering into Florida now (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-sheriff-to-describe-multiple-shooting-in-orlando/2017/06/05/68f8325e-49f9-11e7-987c-42ab5745db2e_story.html?utm_term=.32faa9a39491#comments)

Maybe we ban them from all states. Wasn't it the angry white male vote that the idiot elected?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on June 06, 2017, 02:32:38 PM
Maybe we need to ban all white males from entering into Florida now (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-sheriff-to-describe-multiple-shooting-in-orlando/2017/06/05/68f8325e-49f9-11e7-987c-42ab5745db2e_story.html?utm_term=.32faa9a39491#comments)

Maybe we ban them from all states. Wasn't it the angry white male vote that the idiot elected?

Partly. Partly it was millenials who couldn't be bothered and/or voted 3rd party because (to quote my kid and all his friends, for example) "I don't like either of the other two choices." Oh, and all the Green people that protest voted for Jill Stein... hope they're fucking happy with their choice now.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on June 06, 2017, 08:02:15 PM
ABC: Sessions Offered To Resign As AG While Trump Still Fuming Over His Recusal (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/abc-reports-sessions-offered-to-resign-trump)

ROFL


edit:
from CNN:
Quote
It's almost 9pm and WH still cannot say whether POTUS has confidence in his Attorney General. "No updates," a WH official said.

think sessions will be gone by the time comey testifies? :D



Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: narsica on June 06, 2017, 10:31:21 PM
I think point I think White House Staffers are so terrified of Trump going off script or changing his mind that I think you might well get the same answer if you asked Sean Spicer about whether Trump has confidence in him.

In fact, I think it would legitimately hilarious if the press just spent an entire briefing going through all Trump appointees and asking Spicer whether Donald Trump had confidence in them.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on June 13, 2017, 07:16:54 AM
it's sessions' turn in an open hearing today.

and then there's this (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections), which expands a bit on the intercept story last week.

edit: also, trial balloon (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Ruddy-Trump-Mueller-firing/2017/06/13/id/795649/) put out there for possibility of trump firing mueller. seems to be getting a a sour reaction, if you ignore the crazies.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Jazz on June 15, 2017, 10:28:24 AM
Maybe we need to ban all white males from entering into Florida now (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-sheriff-to-describe-multiple-shooting-in-orlando/2017/06/05/68f8325e-49f9-11e7-987c-42ab5745db2e_story.html?utm_term=.32faa9a39491#comments)

Maybe we ban them from all states. Wasn't it the angry white male vote that the idiot elected?

Partly. Partly it was millenials who couldn't be bothered and/or voted 3rd party because (to quote my kid and all his friends, for example) "I don't like either of the other two choices." Oh, and all the Green people that protest voted for Jill Stein... hope they're fucking happy with their choice now.

Let's not forget the voter suppression in key states.  https://www.thenation.com/article/the-gops-attack-on-voting-rights-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/

Or blame millenials and let the GOP off the hook for that.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on June 15, 2017, 05:18:23 PM
I think we can agree there were a number of factors at play.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on June 15, 2017, 08:07:39 PM
yesterday: WAPO story confirmed that Mueller's investigation has begun to look at trump specifically for obstruction of justice.
today: pence hired a personal attorney to deal with the investigation. guess pence didn't fall for it when trump's lawyer told white house officials that they didn't need to retain personal counsel...   

::)

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Jazz on June 16, 2017, 11:36:56 AM
I think we can agree there were a number of factors at play.

But some continue more than others, and are systemic.  https://www.democracynow.org/2017/6/15/greg_palast_how_racist_voter_suppression
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 02, 2017, 10:11:35 AM
Trump Tweets Video Of Himself Attacking Figure With CNN Logo Edited Over Face (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-tweets-video-attacking-cnn-logo-figure)

...

anything to distract from the shitshow in the senate, i guess.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on July 03, 2017, 08:48:53 AM
It's beyond surprising anymore.  Idiot child president does stupid stuff.  People bemoan it.  Others defend it.  Nothing changes.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 03, 2017, 03:47:59 PM
i think that religious troll in the other forum was sent by Trump to make him look better in comparison
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on July 03, 2017, 05:50:20 PM
i think that religious troll in the other forum was sent by Trump to make him look better in comparison
That dude is a Rascal Fool.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: TheMikrobe on July 04, 2017, 11:29:39 AM
http://newsthump.com/2017/07/04/america-now-british-again-after-trump-accidentally-repeals-1776-declaration-of-independence/
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 05, 2017, 04:11:21 PM
NPR Tweeted Declaration Of Independence, And Trump Supporters Flipped Out (https://www.yahoo.com/news/npr-tweeted-declaration-independence-trump-065239684.html)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Supermatt on July 11, 2017, 03:57:27 PM
What do people make of Trump Jr's  emailsabout the Russian meeting and Hillary dirt? Is this the torpedo that sinks the ship?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on July 11, 2017, 04:00:00 PM
He seemed like a doucher before.  Now he seems like an idiot doucher.  I hope it's a torpedo that sinks the ship.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on July 11, 2017, 04:28:05 PM
Junior gets convicted for treason. Senior gives him a presidential pardon. Nothing changes. :?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Supermatt on July 11, 2017, 05:04:41 PM
Junior gets convicted for treason. Senior gives him a presidential pardon. Nothing changes. :?

I wondered about that. There'd be an outcry surely!?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 11, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
More like all the ships around him sinking or being shot at while he shoots himself in the foot
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 11, 2017, 08:58:47 PM
Is this the torpedo that sinks the ship?

we could only be so lucky, but i doubt it.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 12, 2017, 05:42:47 AM
winning http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-10/how-chris-uhlmanns-g20-takedown-of-donald-trump-went-viral/8695144
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 13, 2017, 08:10:06 PM
so trump initially said he knew nothing about the meeting between junior and the others. now he says otherwise:

Quote
On Wednesday afternoon, Trump told Reuters that “No. That I didn’t know. Until a couple of days ago, when I heard about this. No I didn’t know about that,” referring to the meeting between Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort.

Trump changed his tune later in the day, when he told reporters on Air Force One: “In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point,” referring to the meeting. (Reporters on the plane initially thought the conversation was off-the-record, but the President said otherwise on Thursday.)

goddam but they're a bunch of idiots.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 13, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
lulz (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/12/1680101/-Why-did-the-DOJ-abruptly-settle-Russian-money-laundering-case-with-attorney-at-center-of-collusion). move on, nothin to see here...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on July 14, 2017, 08:11:45 AM
NBC is reporting that there was another person in the meeting with Idiot Jr.  A former Russian agent.  Guess Idiot Jr. forgot about that.  Oh, but it's OK because Idiot Jr. is a "good boy".  This shit just keeps getting better.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-lawyer-brought-ex-soviet-counter-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-lawyer-brought-ex-soviet-counter-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851)

Syn's earlier statement is spot on.
goddam but they're a bunch of idiots.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: hurtlocker on July 14, 2017, 09:46:19 AM
I was a security manager (collateral duty) for over 20 years, we processed the requests
for security clearances. I find it outrageous that non-disclosure seems to be ok if you
"Amend" your input later, we never allowed that when I was processing clearances UNLESS
you had not signed the certification of the data yet. We have removed a clearance for
much less than this.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 16, 2017, 02:16:24 PM
Trump Lawyer Blames Secret Service For Not Preemptively Stopping Jr.’s Meeting (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-blames-secret-service)

 ???
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 26, 2017, 06:08:10 PM
The latest rubbish about banning trans people in the military won't do much help for him.  The people who will be happy would have voted for him anyway.  Its not going to get people to forget about the Russia business, or that his namesake is in big shit.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 26, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
no, but it distracts from the fact that the senate is 0-3 in voting for possible repeals of the ACA the past couple days.

1. repeal and replace with mcconnell's plan? nope, that plan sucks.
2. repeal and replace (with magical fairy dust 2 years from now)? not gonna happen.
3. repeal and don't replace with anything? nope, we don't like that either.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 26, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
i'm glad to hear they can't pass that.   They are turning a kidney stone into a basketball :D
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 27, 2017, 03:17:05 PM
best question from today's press conference:

Quote
"Was the president aware that he can't make policy changes via statements on Twitter?"

in the meantime:

Quote
In a letter to the military service chiefs, Gen. Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the policy on who is allowed to serve will not change until the White House sends the Defense Department a rules change and the secretary of defense issues new guidelines.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 27, 2017, 03:22:41 PM
and re the ACA repeal, the senate parliamentarian ruled that the next option (the "skinny repeal") doesn't qualify for reconciliation. so, it needs 60 to pass rather than 50, and it was a longshot to get to 50.

lulz



Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on July 27, 2017, 04:48:41 PM
best question from today's press conference:

Quote
"Was the president aware that he can't make policy changes via statements on Twitter?"

in the meantime:

Quote
In a letter to the military service chiefs, Gen. Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the policy on who is allowed to serve will not change until the White House sends the Defense Department a rules change and the secretary of defense issues new guidelines.

Yeah, but RE: Dunford's statement - all he means is "we can't act on a tweet, but sure as hell as soon as this comes down to the Sec/Defense in writing, we'll be right on top of this, boys! Full speed oppression ahead!"
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 27, 2017, 05:24:08 PM
perhaps. apparently mattis was not happy with the tweets.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 27, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
jesus, the new WH communications director is fitting in well...  (http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/anthony-scaramucci-called-me-to-unload-about-white-house-leakers-reince-priebus-and-steve-bannon/amp)

Quote
“I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own c**k,”

Quote
“Reince is a f**king paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac,”

edit:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFxjqj3XUAAoBH-.jpg)

he seems nice.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Cluck Kent on July 27, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Wow. How long til Trump has to fire this guy? Is he there already on the strength of that article?

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 27, 2017, 08:22:24 PM
You mean fire everyone but the new comms guy who is loyal and not a leaker
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 27, 2017, 08:39:08 PM
maybe he realized (or was told, more likely) he over-reached?

Quote
Anthony Scaramucci  ✔ @Scaramucci
I sometimes use colorful language. I will refrain in this arena but not give up the passionate fight for @realDonaldTrump's agenda. #MAGA
5:23 PM - Jul 27, 2017
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on July 27, 2017, 09:28:14 PM
He looks and sounds like a sleezeball that Trump would like and vice versa.

The end of Bannon wouldn't be a bad thing.  I'm guessing by the end of term the staff will be made up of Trump family.  At least those not in jail ;)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 28, 2017, 06:54:54 AM
huh, thought i saw that they needed 60 for the last repeal attempt but apparently that wasn't the case. regardless, it didn't get enough votes. mcconnell has a sad.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on July 28, 2017, 08:07:30 AM
McCain stunned them with the "No" vote to kill the last bill version.  People will applaud him, but he shouldn't have voted "Yes" to begin debate a couple days ago in the first place.  Especially after he made that speech about getting back to normal order and all that.  The entire process of this bill was anything but normal order, and he voted to begin debate anyway.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on July 28, 2017, 12:20:50 PM
I find this pretty amusing.  Sad...but amusing.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFx4-d6XUAAZJP8.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on July 28, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
McCain stunned them with the "No" vote to kill the last bill version.  People will applaud him, but he shouldn't have voted "Yes" to begin debate a couple days ago in the first place.  Especially after he made that speech about getting back to normal order and all that.  The entire process of this bill was anything but normal order, and he voted to begin debate anyway.

What bugs me is all the focus on McCain as the "hero" of defeating this. I think far, far more accolades should go to Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski who said all along exactly where they stood and never wavered.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 28, 2017, 08:08:17 PM
Priebus has been voted off the island. new CoS is John Kelly.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 28, 2017, 08:24:38 PM
What bugs me is all the focus on McCain as the "hero" of defeating this. I think far, far more accolades should go to Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski who said all along exactly where they stood and never wavered.

thought this was an interesting and plausible take on what happened:

Quote
t's important to note the 49-3 vote by the Senate Republicans is not a true indicator of who wanted to vote for or against the "skinny" healthcare repeal bill. Way more than 3 didn't want to vote on the bill at all and sure as hell didn't want it to pass, at least not with their names on it.

So McCain stepped in to join the two women [who] were stalwart NOs and be the fall guy so others in the party could be seen voting YES on a bill they never wanted to pass anyway. The disaster of a bill doesn't become law with their YES vote on it and they can point to the YES vote on the failed bill and say, "We tried" to the crazy, granny starving wingnut base.

McCain got to play the mavericky hero he always wanted to be and got to stick his thumb in Trump's eye as payback for Trump insulting him in the Primary.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on July 31, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
Wow. How long til Trump has to fire this guy? Is he there already on the strength of that article?

apparently the answer to that is yes. kelly fired him today. but don't worry, DJT tweeted "No WH chaos!"
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on August 01, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
White House is being run like any top private company would be run.  Just like a well-oiled machine. So glad we have a businessman running things.  He really knows how to get things done.  What a master!
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on August 01, 2017, 04:30:28 PM
I get it, this is how he is the "jobs president"  So many people get to experience the same job.

Did anyone see with the Russia thing, they were working out what PR spin to put on it, Trump overrules them all and says to lie about what the meeting was about.

Why couldn't he have been screwing things up like this in Oct/Nov 2016 :(
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 01, 2017, 04:31:33 PM
Why couldn't he have been screwing things up like this in Oct/Nov 2016 :(

He was. That's the sad part. People didn't (and still don't) care.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on August 03, 2017, 01:28:59 PM
Washington Post got the full (classified) transcripts of DT's calls to Pena Nieto and Turnbull from earlier this year.  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.674e6b45bb8a)

Quote
What is the thing with boats? Why do you discriminate against boats?

and Dt's very bad week continues...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on August 03, 2017, 05:49:30 PM
and it's only thursday...

Reports: Mueller Impanels Grand Jury In Federal Russia Probe (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wsj-reports-mueller-impanels-grand-jury-russia-probe)

also, new entry in urbandictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scaramucci)

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on August 04, 2017, 05:39:50 PM
...and the republican-led senate voted unanimously to block the republican president's ability to make recess appointments before they left for the august break.

LOLOLOL

so much winning.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 05, 2017, 01:57:09 PM
And now Trump's transgender military ban is in writing and should be headed to Mattis shortly.

http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/08/04/trumps-trans-military-ban-now-policy/

Quote
President Donald Trump may be on a 17- day vacation but his White House has been scrambling to hand him a “win” by the time he returns. Trump’s tweets last week announcing a ban on transgender individuals serving openly in the U.S. military was turned into a “guidance” policy for implementation that passed muster with the White House Counsel’s office Friday night. Approved by Trump, the new policy is expected to be now delivered into the hands of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who has been quiet on the issue with approximately 15,000 trans servicemembers under his command.

After his review, Mattis is expected to order a deliberate implementation by the Pentagon, which could take a period of time.

Though the policy—called “A Guidance Policy for Open Transgender Service Phase Out”—has not yet been made public, sources familiar with the planning said it would encourage early retirement, usher out any enlisted personnel after their contract is up, and would fire trans officers up for promotion. Basically, said a source, “the administration want to get rid of transgender servicemembers as fast as they can.”

No one yet knows what will happen to the servicemembers currently fighting in combat. The new policy does allow trans servicemembers to continue serving but apparently does not offer any protection from harassment or other efforts to get them to quit.

Fuck Trump. Just fuck this guy.

Interestingly, Mattis today issued a memorandum to all DoD personnel about ethics.
https://twitter.com/AaronMehta/status/893614050927562752/photo/1?

It... almost... reads like Mattis may be prepared to ignore the order. Seems unlikely as fuck, but maybe?  I mean, one is expected to disobey unethical or unlawful orders...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on August 15, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
Today has to be a new low.  The president is just a piece of shit.  That press conference today was awful.  What does this turd have to do to lose Republican support?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Silverthorn on August 16, 2017, 07:22:36 AM
Become less of a republican?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on August 16, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
IMO he is indefensible.  So amazingly sad to see this ass hat ruin the country.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on August 16, 2017, 03:58:37 PM
Lets hope whoever goes up against him in 2020 wins at least 49 states against him.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on August 16, 2017, 04:51:38 PM
dt disbanded his jobs panel group today, rather than face more CEO resignations (2 more quit today prior to his announcement). if only he was capable of being embarrassed...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on August 17, 2017, 08:53:36 AM
dt disbanded his jobs panel group today, rather than face more CEO resignations (2 more quit today prior to his announcement). if only he was capable of being embarrassed...
So much winning!

Dumb Donald is now tweeting that he's sad to see statues honoring confederate heroes of the civil war being removed.  I guess he likes honoring people who committed treason against our country.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 17, 2017, 04:26:33 PM
Meanwhile our fucking idiot tea party governor in Maine has made national news *again* by insisting that taking down Confederate statues is the same as taking down a 9/11 memorial.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on August 17, 2017, 07:10:16 PM
Meanwhile our fucking idiot tea party governor in Maine has made national news *again* by insisting that taking down Confederate statues is the same as taking down a 9/11 memorial.

So...that is your idiot.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on August 19, 2017, 10:53:33 AM
How does a state that elects Angus King and Susan Collins keep electing that guy?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 19, 2017, 03:43:03 PM
How does a state that elects Angus King and Susan Collins keep electing that guy?

Both times he's won it was a 3-way race against a democrat and an independent, so he's never won 50% of the vote. That said, Maine has a large redneck conservative population so, yeah.

Luckily, thanks to term limits, he's done next year. Of course, he's spewing crap about running for senate, but I don't think he could take Collins or King.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on August 19, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
How does a state that elects Angus King and Susan Collins keep electing that guy?

Both times he's won it was a 3-way race against a democrat and an independent, so he's never won 50% of the vote. That said, Maine has a large redneck conservative population so, yeah.

Luckily, thanks to term limits, he's done next year. Of course, he's spewing crap about running for senate, but I don't think he could take Collins or King.

isn't collins planning on running for governor? though i doubt lepage could win a race for an open senate seat, unless he lucked into another 3 way.

edit: from what i just read, if collins ran for governor and won, lepage would get to appoint a replacement (potentially himself) to serve the remaining 2 years of her senate term.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 19, 2017, 11:58:48 PM
I have heard mention of her running for gov, but I *think* she has nixed that?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on August 21, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
Did anyone else see the photo of Trump staring at the Eclipse with no eye protection (later in the same article saw one with him wearing some eye protection.

still lolz
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 21, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
Ehhh.... watch the video. He glances up for like 2 seconds (tops), kind of jokingly.

This one is just a chance for people to go "lol stupid"... which is annoying because there's already plenty of real reasons to call him stupid and making up new ones just obfuscates things.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on August 22, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
I'm sure he'll get plenty stupid tonight at his rally in Arizona.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on August 22, 2017, 07:32:05 PM
I saw an article that his lies etc have reached a count of 1000 now.  Normally 5 a day or so ..
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on August 23, 2017, 10:04:01 AM
It is tough to imagine that the crazy could become worse than it has been, but the last two weeks have been off the chart.  From Charlottesville and his racist ramblings, to the new 'strategy' (bring back mini-skirts) in Afghanistan, to his, literally, insane speech last night.

I had incredibly low expectations of his presidency, but this is worse than anything I imagined.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on August 23, 2017, 10:13:06 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-olbermann-trump-end-resign_us_599d0b73e4b0a296083ae352?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on August 23, 2017, 03:43:30 PM
Quote from: Ammendment XXV Section 4 of the US Consitution
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 23, 2017, 03:53:05 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-olbermann-trump-end-resign_us_599d0b73e4b0a296083ae352?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Fun, wishful thinking. Right along with this similar prediction (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-going-resign-soon-president-art-deal-ghostwriter-predicts-651873).

His ego is way too big to quit.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on August 23, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
was on a family vacation a few weeks ago; one of my brothers-in-law (a health insurance exec in PA) is convinced that trump will be re-elected by a substantial margin.  i think my BIL's letting his cynicism get the better of him, because i don't see how trump keeps this up, but i can't believe he was elected in the first place, so what do i know. the only good news about trump so far is that we haven't started a new war. also don't think he will resign. he'll be dragged out, kicking and screaming.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on August 23, 2017, 04:39:36 PM
Hopefully when it comes to your next election there won't be any wall, or the start of it. No healthcare repeal/reform, basically no major wins.  Just a series of rants and more people quitting.  This assumes it doesn't blow up before then.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: TheMikrobe on August 24, 2017, 04:24:20 AM
Ammendment XXV Section 4 of the US Consitution

I'm not sure that while Trump is conscious and able to speak that using the provisions in this amendment would work (and it would be a massive risk to try it without being certain). The "powers and duties of his office" aren't really defined and Trump could argue that he has been attempting to do what he was elected to do. The best way to get rid of him is surely impeachment.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on August 24, 2017, 10:39:46 AM
I mentioned it because it is being widely talked about.  While the short term implications make sense it is not good from a long term POV. 
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on August 29, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
And now Trump's transgender military ban is in writing and should be headed to Mattis shortly.

http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/08/04/trumps-trans-military-ban-now-policy/

Quote
President Donald Trump may be on a 17- day vacation but his White House has been scrambling to hand him a “win” by the time he returns. Trump’s tweets last week announcing a ban on transgender individuals serving openly in the U.S. military was turned into a “guidance” policy for implementation that passed muster with the White House Counsel’s office Friday night. Approved by Trump, the new policy is expected to be now delivered into the hands of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who has been quiet on the issue with approximately 15,000 trans servicemembers under his command.

After his review, Mattis is expected to order a deliberate implementation by the Pentagon, which could take a period of time.

Though the policy—called “A Guidance Policy for Open Transgender Service Phase Out”—has not yet been made public, sources familiar with the planning said it would encourage early retirement, usher out any enlisted personnel after their contract is up, and would fire trans officers up for promotion. Basically, said a source, “the administration want to get rid of transgender servicemembers as fast as they can.”

No one yet knows what will happen to the servicemembers currently fighting in combat. The new policy does allow trans servicemembers to continue serving but apparently does not offer any protection from harassment or other efforts to get them to quit.

Fuck Trump. Just fuck this guy.

Interestingly, Mattis today issued a memorandum to all DoD personnel about ethics.
https://twitter.com/AaronMehta/status/893614050927562752/photo/1?

It... almost... reads like Mattis may be prepared to ignore the order. Seems unlikely as fuck, but maybe?  I mean, one is expected to disobey unethical or unlawful orders...

Mattis sorta thumbed his nose at Trump a bit here. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/29/mattis-orders-pentagon-allow-transgender-troops-continue-serving-pending-study/614711001/) :D
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on September 17, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
looks like mattis is giving congress time to fix this.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/350974-transgender-troops-will-be-able-to-re-enlist-for-time-being-report

of course, that never goes wrong.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on September 19, 2017, 04:11:44 PM
Kelly (trumps's CoS), at the UN speech.  (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/this-photo-of-john-kelly-face-palming-during-trumps-warmongering-un-speech-means-we-are-all-doomed/)

(https://images.dailykos.com/images/450652/story_image/7e1bb7dd7a738cf89d892fb535e425fb-2.jpg?1505848828)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on September 19, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
How can that man stand to serve under the orange buffoon?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on September 19, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
maybe his life expectency won't be around for the next republican president
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on September 20, 2017, 11:22:37 AM
And Mel looks perpetually perplexed.

That speech was down right disturbing.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: TheMikrobe on September 21, 2017, 02:43:07 AM
Quote from: Donald J. Trump
The scourge of our planet today is a small group of rogue regimes that violate every principle on which the United Nations is based. They respect neither their own citizens nor the sovereign rights of their countries. If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph. When decent people and nations become bystanders to history, the forces of destruction only gather power and strength.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Reigns on September 22, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Donald J. Trump
The scourge of our planet today is a small group of rogue regimes that violate every principle on which the United Nations is based. They respect neither their own citizens nor the sovereign rights of their countries. If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph. When decent people and nations become bystanders to history, the forces of destruction only gather power and strength.


You know, I could have sworn that was the very argument being made to bring impeachment proceedings against Trump...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on September 25, 2017, 02:59:03 PM
I want to see  a picture of Kim from NK taking a knee watching some NFL.  Imagine Trumps reaction to that.  Doesn't even need to fire a missile
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Reigns on September 27, 2017, 03:19:41 PM
I want to see  a picture of Kim from NK taking a knee watching some NFL.  Imagine Trumps reaction to that.  Doesn't even need to fire a missile

Kim Jon Un is a psycho...
But that would be amazing.
 ;D ;D ;D

I'm totally stealing that and posting it on Facebook. 
EDIT: Which I did... but I went back and gave Timinator credit.   ;D
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on October 01, 2017, 05:12:00 PM
DJT, today on twitter:

Quote
I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man...

i'm sure Tillerson just loves being cut off at the knees.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on October 02, 2017, 08:16:53 PM
huckabee, when asked what DJT might do re gun control at today's press conference:

Quote
brought up violent crime in Chicago, a frequent talking point for the administration for a variety of issues. Trump has infamously threatened to send in federal agents to subdue the city.

“They have the strictest gun laws in the country, that certainly hasn’t helped there,” she said, adding: “I think we need to look at things that actually have that real impact.”

these freaking people....
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on October 03, 2017, 07:12:23 AM
When Trump talks about religion, scripture, thoughts/prayers, etc. does anyone really believe he gives a shit about that stuff?  It's so forced coming out of him.  Frankly, I don't think he gives a shit about anything except making money.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: TheMikrobe on October 03, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
The first publically atheist president? It seemed so obvious during the campaign that his advisors had made him find a church and dig out his childhood Bible.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on October 05, 2017, 01:57:41 PM
The first president to be called "a fucking moron" by his secretary of state at a pentagon meeting? laugh/snort...
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on October 10, 2017, 07:34:33 AM
What a pathetic little man.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/10/trump-proposes-iq-tests-face-off-with-tillerson-after-secretary-of-state-calls-him-a-moron/?utm_term=.f38ec2f1c30d (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/10/trump-proposes-iq-tests-face-off-with-tillerson-after-secretary-of-state-calls-him-a-moron/?utm_term=.f38ec2f1c30d)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on October 10, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
I think they should have a pipe off.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on October 10, 2017, 09:12:04 PM
onion worthy.

Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: mn4nu on October 11, 2017, 08:26:24 AM
He truly is a moron.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/trump-wanted-dramatic-increase-nuclear-arsenal-meeting-military-leaders-n809701 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/trump-wanted-dramatic-increase-nuclear-arsenal-meeting-military-leaders-n809701)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on October 11, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
A little freestyle rap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunHybOKIjU
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on October 13, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
trump today, talking about how awesome he is at hurricane relief: "I met with the president of the (US) Virgin Islands." uh, that's you, you F-ing moron.

in other news, over a dozen states have already announced intent to sue over the ACA subsidy cutoff he announced yesterday/this morning, and he's decertifying the iran agreement even though his own security team says iran is in compliance.

trifecta!
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: TheMikrobe on October 14, 2017, 02:57:12 AM
The Iran thing is such a fuck up. Everyone says they're in compliance, so he's also isolating the US from the other countries in the deal. Also North Korea can already look to Gaddafi and Saddam as reasons not to give up nukes, now after publicly saying back-channel discussions are a waste of time the USA has shown it can't be trusted be stick to whatever agreement might have been reached.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on October 24, 2017, 10:42:53 AM
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59ea28fd02a3104564c9ac02/master/w_380,c_limit/2017_10_30.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Cluck Kent on October 24, 2017, 07:56:59 PM
The evil clown. Nice.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Silverthorn on October 25, 2017, 12:59:27 AM
Maybe a bit too... Subtle?
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on October 30, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
indictment of former trump campaign manager on money laundering and conspiracy against the US? check.
indictment of a GOP superPAC manager and former trump campaign official, also on money laundering and conspiracy charges? check.
trump campaign aide confession regarding the solicitation of russian assistance and coordination with trump himself? check.

 ;D
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Sssith on October 30, 2017, 03:37:12 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-reactions-to-the-manafort-indictment-that-really-matter/

I found this to be an interesting read.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Pixie on November 05, 2017, 06:57:31 AM
This is fucking glorious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Uy0Uznw4E

The guy who made this deserves a cookie.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: syn on November 05, 2017, 07:11:28 AM
 ;D

yes it is, and yes he/she does.
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on November 05, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
its about 3 years until the next election and someone else wins!  Ok, so its not guaranteed but really hope it happens! Whoever wins, I hope they screw up his hand written note (tradition) and throw it in the bin
Title: Re: Trump continued
Post by: Timinator on November 15, 2017, 07:19:23 PM
i saw "major annoucement coming" i looked back later and there was a story about him drinking water during a speech.  A small story about what he talked about that wasn't as major as they made it sound to be.

Did Donny just have a "watergate" moment? Especially as he has picked on people for doing that exact same thing before?