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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by syn on July 19, 2018, 07:11:27 AM »
it took a perfect storm to elect trump the first time. that's unlikely to be repeated.
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by Kasferatu on July 18, 2018, 01:21:14 PM »
I don't really have any great hope here and if anything, 2016 showed how divided the left in the US is. It is far far easier for the far right to rally around a candidate, especially when they just go mindlessly for soundbites over substance.

Rallying the political left behind a single candidate, especially when Bernie demonstrate both how "big" and divided the political "left" was, is going to be a huge challenge. Regardless that Hilary lost because of the failings of the EC, it seems pretty clear that the left won't, on principle, all rally behind a candidate just to defeat abhorrent opposition. I've not seen any signs this side of the pond that the Dems have learned any lessons from 2016 or have plans to appeal to the voters, especially younger voters, who Bernie appealed to.

I don't think a "project fear" vote for X candidate or we'll get Trump, is going to cut it.

At present, I fully expect Trump will get four more years.

These are my thoughts exactly.
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by Sssith on July 18, 2018, 10:01:02 AM »
At present, I fully expect Trump will get four more years.

Do you have any space in your cupboard under the stairs?  Can I move in if this happens?
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by Darkness on July 18, 2018, 08:45:00 AM »
I hope the Dems come up with a whole heap of great candidates, not just 2 possibilities.  I hope they pick someone with a real chance of getting there.  I also hope there are some other republications who put their name in (if they can) :P

I don't really have any great hope here and if anything, 2016 showed how divided the left in the US is. It is far far easier for the far right to rally around a candidate, especially when they just go mindlessly for soundbites over substance.

Rallying the political left behind a single candidate, especially when Bernie demonstrate both how "big" and divided the political "left" was, is going to be a huge challenge. Regardless that Hilary lost because of the failings of the EC, it seems pretty clear that the left won't, on principle, all rally behind a candidate just to defeat abhorrent opposition. I've not seen any signs this side of the pond that the Dems have learned any lessons from 2016 or have plans to appeal to the voters, especially younger voters, who Bernie appealed to.

I don't think a "project fear" vote for X candidate or we'll get Trump, is going to cut it.

At present, I fully expect Trump will get four more years.
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Gaming General / Re: General gaming chatter
« Last post by Godji on July 18, 2018, 07:06:55 AM »
I'w way down the Binding of Isaac's h... no, not falling for that one.
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by Timinator on July 17, 2018, 08:04:30 PM »
I hope the Dems come up with a whole heap of great candidates, not just 2 possibilities.  I hope they pick someone with a real chance of getting there.  I also hope there are some other republications who put their name in (if they can) :P
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by Sssith on July 17, 2018, 05:36:38 PM »
Just the boots?

I had a long disgusting diatribe written that I refrained from posting.  This response is the PG equivalent of that.  Nicely done.
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by Timinator on July 17, 2018, 04:38:39 PM »
I kinda hope the rest of the world lowers tariffs among each other so its much easier to work without the US.
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Gaming General / Re: General gaming chatter
« Last post by Kasferatu on July 17, 2018, 03:52:36 PM »
I'm waaay down the Slay the Spire hole.
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The Argument Chamber / Re: Trump continued
« Last post by syn on July 17, 2018, 03:48:59 PM »
ton of backlash on his comments at the presser. former CIA director brennan called it treasonous, former RNC chairman steele called it "what happens when an asset meets with his handler", former republican governor/bush cabinet member whitman called on trump to resign. of course, no one with any power to actually do something is willing to do anything or say anything beyond the meekest of rebukes. 

trump today said "he misspoke", when talking about why he would or wouldn't think russia was involved in election tampering, but he wouldn't answer when asked if he would condemn russian interference in the election.

Quote
"Oops, did I say WOULD? I meant wouldN'T.
...Didn't even realize it until I checked the transcript."

An actual excuse that someone in the WH thought would work


ya suppose he's aware that if he loses congressional support, they have everything they need to impeach him?
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