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Title: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 18, 2018, 07:55:31 PM
No idea how long it will last, but right now I'm having fun goofing around in 1.07 with a sorc. Hopefully I'll get to run some racks eventually.  :P

Anyone remember much about 1.07?

I'd love to run some 1.09 and 1.10 (at least) if I can find a good version switcher. Need to track down some sort of ATMA, too.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on January 19, 2018, 12:24:39 AM
Gg Dave.

Some faqs around. Cold mastery breaks immunity. Static field doesnít stop!  Full purple bug. No min level for the ancients reward!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on January 19, 2018, 06:42:49 AM
OMG!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Sssith on January 19, 2018, 04:31:13 PM
Sounds good.  Maybe you will finally finish off that HC Trapper that you were too scared to continue.

:P
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on January 19, 2018, 04:47:00 PM
If you don't mind some cheese, there is a bugged crafting formula in 1.07 that can give you up to 35 mana points per kill (MPK bug).
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 20, 2018, 02:22:51 PM
Sounds good.  Maybe you will finally finish off that HC Trapper that you were too scared to continue.

:P

She got lonely after the rest of you louts got yourselves killed off.  :P
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 20, 2018, 02:26:47 PM
My might sorc Tempest is now level 10 and is working her way through the Jail in act 1. I really need the cube to help cut down on my overflowing stash!

Does anyone have a link to ATMA? And does it work in 1.07?

I finally got the version switcher fired up, but I'm going to try to hang in 1.07 for awhile.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on January 20, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
ATMA works with 1.07, but IIRC crafted items will cause major problems with it.

http://atma.incgamers.com/

Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Sssith on January 20, 2018, 05:20:33 PM
Impressive that it is still available and works on W10.  I am assuming it does.  Not sure I would want to install the version of .Net that it needs.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 21, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Thanks for the ATMA info! Andariel is dead and I have now made my way into act 2.

Which merc would you recommend for my sorc? I'm thinking Act 2 defensive, but I'd definitely love to hear some opinions.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 21, 2018, 07:17:55 PM
I switched my merc for an Act 2 defensive merc.

I finally rescued the Horadric Cube and dispatched Duriel (after dying many many times!) and have made my way to act 3. I believe I'm level 20 or 21, and so far the only legendary or set item I have found is the Arctic Belt.

Runes have thankfully started appearing, and I look forward to hopefully making a runeword or two before too terribly long.

Is it  safe to assume that once you socket an item with something, there is no way to retrieve the gem/jewel/rune? I think so, but I'm not positive.

Onward!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on January 21, 2018, 10:53:30 PM
This ainít d3 mate!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 25, 2018, 05:57:32 AM
The Flayer Dungeon proved to be quite challenging and I died far too many times. My tireless mercenary Razan is a killing machine, but sadly he is incapable of walking in a straight line and gets distracted at every possible opportunity.

Onward to Lower Kurast!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 25, 2018, 07:16:49 AM
ATMA works with 1.07, but IIRC crafted items will cause major problems with it.

http://atma.incgamers.com/

Any idea which version of ATMA I should use with 1.07?
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: GalaXyHaXz on January 25, 2018, 09:32:18 AM
Don't forget about rings with 35% LL!  :D

Hey, I made an update to ATMA (http://www.mediafire.com/file/kqihic7thjfcbob/ATMA_V_113.7z) and I recommend you use that. It fixes compatibility with 1.13. Also, if you are serious about 1.07, don't forget the updated drop calculator (http://www.mediafire.com/file/foxlf50ch91nu3b/d2-atma_dropfix.zip) as well. ATMA's drop calc for 1.07-1.08 was full of bugs but most are fixed now.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on January 27, 2018, 07:16:59 AM
Don't forget about rings with 35% LL!  :D

Hey, I made an update to ATMA (http://www.mediafire.com/file/kqihic7thjfcbob/ATMA_V_113.7z) and I recommend you use that. It fixes compatibility with 1.13. Also, if you are serious about 1.07, don't forget the updated drop calculator (http://www.mediafire.com/file/foxlf50ch91nu3b/d2-atma_dropfix.zip) as well. ATMA's drop calc for 1.07-1.08 was full of bugs but most are fixed now.

Thanks on all counts! I could use some LL rings right about now! :D

Meph is down and I'm slowly winding my way through Act 4. I finally have Blizzard in my arsenal, but I'm still very much a glass cannon.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on February 03, 2018, 10:20:22 AM
Inspired by Dave, I've been playing a little D2 the past couple of days.  I've been doing Baal runs using my hammerdin, and found a griswold corona from an elite oblivion knight in WSK3!  The loot hunt in D2 never goes away it seems.   
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: syn on February 03, 2018, 11:52:48 AM
geez, you guys are making me think about reinstalling that thing.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on February 03, 2018, 12:38:36 PM
geez, you guys are making me think about reinstalling that thing.
Do it!  Other things I've found today:  Steel Pillar, Metalgrid, Stormlash, Mavina's Caster!!!!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on February 03, 2018, 01:28:36 PM
I did a few runs last night, nothing worth mentioning. Gg mn4nu on the lash! Also steel pillar is a missing grailer for me :p
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: dave in the basement on February 11, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
I've been doing some (a ton) of Pindle and Meph runs with my blizzard sorc. I don't remember much of what is considered good any more, but I did get Tal's Laquered Plate and an IK Stone Crusher, so those were cool. I also got Bartuc's for the 'sin I'm working on, so that was nice. :)
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on February 11, 2018, 05:14:24 PM
Dave!

Tal's armour is awesome, its 2nd to top TC, so rarer to drop.  It has lots of good benefits and the rest of the set isn't too hard to drop except the ammy.  IK Maul drops as often as Tyreals in D3!  I use them for Iron Golems in D2 :D

Bartucs is great for the middle stages of any sin!  Keep it up!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 10, 2018, 07:40:42 AM
I've been playing a sorceress on Battlenet off and on for awhile now.  Started from scratch, so it has really been challenging.  I forgot how difficult parts of this game can be if you are untwinked (normal Duriel).  I finally finished nightmare yesterday.  Not sure why I am doing this, as I don't plan to really get into D2 again, but it has been a fun distraction.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Darkness on April 10, 2018, 08:31:17 AM
I keep pondering revisiting the glory days of 1.09 but, I don't know if I could get my old disks to work.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 10, 2018, 11:05:39 AM
I keep pondering revisiting the glory days of 1.09 but, I don't know if I could get my old disks to work.
If you have the activation code, you can sign into your blizzard account and register the game with them.  Then you can download and install the game without the disks.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on April 10, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
Version switchers, no CD fixes help too. Can post links if you are keen
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Darkness on April 10, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
Version switchers, no CD fixes help too. Can post links if you are keen

Would be handy.

I do have a version of the game on the USB stick that came with the D3 collectors edition.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on April 10, 2018, 05:54:21 PM
That is after what you need, having most of the files is handy
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 19, 2018, 10:59:08 AM
I installed PlugY and started a new sorceress to try it out.  So far so good.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on April 19, 2018, 07:58:38 PM
I installed PlugY and started a new sorceress to try it out.  So far so good.

isn't that the one that will corrupt you, you grow hair on your palms, you go blind and it ruins your soul?  Or was that just overreaction?
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 20, 2018, 06:52:48 AM
I installed PlugY and started a new sorceress to try it out.  So far so good.

isn't that the one that will corrupt you, you grow hair on your palms, you go blind and it ruins your soul?  Or was that just overreaction?
It better be overreaction or else I'm screwed!  One thing I don't miss about D2 is having to do the same thing 3 different times.  At least D3 got that right.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on April 20, 2018, 09:06:52 AM
Eventually. Remember when you had to do it four times not three!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 20, 2018, 11:57:13 AM
Eventually. Remember when you had to do it four times not three!
The game was so hard back then doing it a fourth time wasn't really possible.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: lemming on April 20, 2018, 02:10:54 PM
PlugY's not kosher by SPF standards, for what it's worth.

I don't think I'd want to use it for inventory management anyway, since GoMule is so much more powerful.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 23, 2018, 09:47:11 AM
PlugY's not kosher by SPF standards, for what it's worth.

I don't think I'd want to use it for inventory management anyway, since GoMule is so much more powerful.
I don't care about the SPF.  I haven't visited there in years, but thanks for the info.  I agree inventory management is not as convenient as GoMule, but that's not why I'm using PlugY.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on April 30, 2018, 07:40:03 AM
Do you know you cannot even say "PlugY" at the SPF?  There was a brief hope that a breathe of fresh air was going to blow through, but it was snuffed out pretty quickly.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on April 30, 2018, 08:19:02 AM
So, PlugY is like "Voldemeort"?  ;)
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on April 30, 2018, 07:51:18 PM
So, PlugY is like "Voldemeort"?  ;)

Don't laugh, I refer to it as the "Voldemort program" on the SPF.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Darkness on May 01, 2018, 06:24:14 AM
So what's the deal with PlugY and the SPF? Is it an actually an issue the SPF have or is it that the website admin's don't like it?

I remember "back in the day" that Ron (Greybeard) went to the wall to defend the use of ATMA by the SPF, when behind the scenes the D2.net Admin and other Mods were discussing that it was a "duping" program and whether to ban its use. That ATMA is still accepted today I suspect is in part to Greybeard sticking to his guns on behalf of the community.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on May 01, 2018, 07:59:18 AM
The one thing I think that they might not like with PlugY is that you can reset skills anytime.  Other than that, after playing it for a couple weeks there really isn't much of a difference to me.  I actually had the diablo clone spawn in a game the other day, but my character was much too weak to make a dent in him.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on May 01, 2018, 06:28:55 PM
As far as I know it is a forum wide ban on all third party software that gives PlugY its bad name but there is a certain amount of hypocrisy in it.  The SPF has been allowed to develop and promote certain utilities (ATMA/GoMule, RWM/RRM, various version switchers, run counters) without hindrance but there seems to be an ideological objection to PlugY.  The funny thing was that you could use it if you were playing Median XL, but you were not allowed to mention the program by name; it promotes its use you see!!  The most resent schism at the SPF really brought these (and more) issues to a head.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Darkness on May 02, 2018, 05:55:25 AM
Now I'm confused as fuck.

There's a ban on third party software.
But, some third party software is allowed.

I...

Wut....?
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on May 02, 2018, 08:47:37 AM
Now I'm confused as fuck.

There's a ban on third party software.
But, some third party software is allowed.

I...

Wut....?
Yeah, I'm with you on this.  That makes no sense.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Sssith on May 02, 2018, 09:59:08 AM
I can't believe this is still discussed.  SPF was always crazy.

To me it was always clear cut. 

This issue is over a decade old.  The definition of insanity.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on May 02, 2018, 01:12:02 PM
I can't believe this is still discussed.  SPF was always crazy.

To me it was always clear cut. 
  • If you want a clean environment play self found.  Don't trade. 
  • If you want to trade understand that you can't guarantee you are not using a dup.
  • Trade with people you trust.  Which is why this forum and others, including SPF came about.
  • When you trade be open about what programs you use.
  • Check you self righteousness at the door.  <-- Where SPF fails

This issue is over a decade old.  The definition of insanity.
Good summary!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on May 03, 2018, 08:10:08 PM
Of course this forum is much quieter in D2 than 10 years or more ago, but as Ssssith said, we know this and dealt with it.  The SPF mainly views things as the last vestage of humanity stoping a zombie virus from killing off the last humans.

Some of the previous mods left without a goodbye (Hrus, Cattleya).  In the vacuum, Thyiad got the job.  Overall for a long time she did a pretty good job, there were some things I didn't personally agree with, but these things happen.  However in more recent times its gotten out of control.

She appeared to go a bit postal, and it appeared she had left forever.  There was a lot of shock, but also HOPE.  Hope that other mods who viewed and posted could do a few things. that CHANGE might be able to come by what the users want to do, what they want to talk about.  5 months later she is back, the Iron fist comes down and a big can of NOPE is opened up.

We learnt somewhere along the line she had been having a real rough time in real life and certain people had been working to kill her reputation online.  Naturally she was not in a good place.  Now these are horrible things and no one wants to go through this, or see anyone go through it.  Its not always obvious this is the reason behind people's behaviour online.

Back to stuff that happens in game, and as people learn more about doing stuff in game, and how that works.  People were finding new/exciting things!  They wanted to be able to talk about it, have screenshots, guides etc.  Thyiad on the other side didn't have time/energy to game and wasn't really in the mood for it.  It must have seemed like a lot of "this is why you can't have nice things"

For 5 months it appears the SPF was turning a corner, that there could be some consensus based discussion about why people choose to spend their free time on a hobby.  Instead it was basically, follow these rules or GTFO, and if you GTFO, there is NO where that will survive, or is a decent place.

Here are some examples:
Don't mention voldemort! https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/a-reminder-about-non-fam-mods.960596/

Straws breaking the camels back:
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/pre-lod-trading-no-longer-accepted.950867/

Basically a "screw you guys, I'm leaving"
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/not-the-spf-i-knew.950868/ 
That particular nugget of a locked thread spawned a different thread https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/the-spf-i-know.952249/  I got really annoyed that it was a very subjective view on how things were, and the only way to do things correctly.


These days Maxicek is now a mod, doing a fine job, is active, playing and contributing.  But the rules/right way to do things is still an issue for many.

Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on May 04, 2018, 07:14:24 PM
Great summary Tim. 

Do you know that the use of the -seed command has been outlawed at the SPF?  The funny thing was that when you looked at the SPF survey results (https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/spf-reform-survey.960392/) this is the only section where the recommendation was accepted, the rest just blew away like a morning mist.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: D2Addict on May 23, 2018, 08:30:56 PM
I couldn't ignore a D2 post. :) I happened to be messing a bit in 1.09 again recently. I never uninstalled it from an old computer. I still have ATMA and my stashes.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on May 24, 2018, 07:38:49 AM
Nice to see you around here D2A!

I found a HoZ yesterday, so my smiter has a nice shield now.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on May 26, 2018, 06:47:50 PM
Hi D2A.  Over the last five years or so I've taken short excursions into Diablo 3, Path of Exile and Grim Dawn but I haven't lost my passion for D2; 70 mat/pats and still going strong!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: D2Addict on May 28, 2018, 07:42:21 PM
Hi D2A.  Over the last five years or so I've taken short excursions into Diablo 3, Path of Exile and Grim Dawn but I haven't lost my passion for D2; 70 mat/pats and still going strong!
Good to see you both too. Maybe a MP game some day for old times sake? I am definitely out of practice.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: TheNix on May 31, 2018, 07:11:48 PM
Hi D2A.  Over the last five years or so I've taken short excursions into Diablo 3, Path of Exile and Grim Dawn but I haven't lost my passion for D2; 70 mat/pats and still going strong!
Good to see you both too. Maybe a MP game some day for old times sake? I am definitely out of practice.

I'll have to dig up my 1.09 characters and stashes.  I've not seen them for a while, but there on a flash-drive somewhere!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on September 20, 2018, 10:13:44 PM
I believe if I remember right, I did 8 patriarchs on 1.09, then 1 on 1.10, then quit D2 somewhere around 2008 or 2009.  After reinstalling the game last month having not had much else to play, I finally got another one:

Patriarch Strongjaw
Level 86
Strength 187 (238)
Dexterity 55 (100)
Vitality 258
Energy 10
HP: 1436 (2929)
Resists: 33/57/32/26
Defense: 15376 (with Merc and Shout, Concentrate boosts it more)
Skills: 20 Mace Mastery, 20 Whirlwind, 20 Battle Orders, 10 in Concentrate, 5 in Shout, 4 in Natural Resistance, 1 in various others
Gear: IK Maul (2 Shaels), IK Helm (2 PTopazs), IK Gloves, IK Belt, IK Boots, Steel Carapace, Dwarf Star, Safety Amulet (+1 Barb skills, all resist +13), Blood Ring (7% LL, +Life, 28 Poison Res), 2x 2-Shaeled Ali Babas on switch (for finishing bosses and for "hoark"ing)

Merc: Defiance - Pierre Tombale Couant, Guillame's Face, Skin of the Flayed One

My Paladin and Sorceress got to Hell first and did most of the farming for a while, but the Barb was just much tankier and got through the tougher parts of Act 5 much easier.  It's really all about the enemy spawns.  Just now I figured I'd see what the WSK had for me, and not only did it not have any Burning Souls, it had mostly Flayers which come in huge packs that can't really damage me due to the high base-DR from Steel Carapace and provide a huge amount of bodies to hoark (nothing good this run though besides a 5-socket Thresher, my MF has been relatively low throughout so I already have 4, 5, and 6 socket polearms, crystal swords, phase blades, etc., but no runes to make runewords with).  A WW Barb is also pretty awesome for getting through the ice caves which can be extremely hard in Hell, because there usually at least 2 of the 3 types of monsters do Cold damage, which slows down the WW movement but not the attack speed, letting me hit enemies several times more.  I've been doing various runs with him, focusing on the Ancient Tunnels mostly, finding decent stuff now and then (found a Tal Rasha's armor and a Stoneraven today).

On a related note, I've been watching more Youtubers and streamers that play Diablo 2 (it seems to have been getting a lot more popular lately), and they pretty much all run PlugY.  While the shared stash and summed up stat listing (tells you how much MF/FCR/FHR you have total so you don't have to do math manually) are generally fine, I kinda question the not-so-complete Uber quest inclusion that lets people farm for Annihilus charms and Hellfire Torches without much effort and at a much reduced difficulty.  For the sake of your own enjoyment, you can pretty much do whatever you want, but some of the Youtubers put out all sorts of videos showing off their crazy damage on builds that would never work without 10 skill charms plus Hellfire plus Infinity Polearm merc or whatever (plus they use PlugY to instantly respec infinitely, using the same character for every video).  Things get a little shadier when showing off your hacked normally-ladder-only runewords with 20 optimized charms and such as though it was earned and offering that build as an example for new players (who can't use those runewords, or likely won't have that gear for months or years).  I watched about 5 different "Budget Build" videos from 5 different people and all of them included ridiculously rare stuff that I haven't found yet.  I mean, who really cares at this point, though I guess I just remember the integrity we tried to uphold in the SPF days, so people that are actually making money off of generally terrible advice and shadiness bugs me a bit (not all of the Youtubers/streamers are bad though).
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on October 09, 2018, 02:08:56 PM
About a month ago I found a Sur rune, which allowed me to cube a Ber rune.  I then had the runes to make the Infinity runeword, something I never did before in single player after all my time of playing this game.  I have spent the past month searching for the right base weapon to put it in.  I finally got lucky yesterday.  An unsocketed eth cryptic axe dropped in the ancient tunnels and I used the cube to socket it.  I was very happy that it got 4 sockets.  I've cubed probably 5 or 6 eth weapons (threshers mainly) trying to get 4 sockets, but I was always getting something besides 4.  I made the Infinity and it rolled pretty good with 321% damage mod.  I then cubed my 2 Gul runes into a Vex and made a Heart of the Oak runeword and got 38 reisists on that.  Now I have a decent lightning sorceress going.  I still need to find a 5 socket phase blade to make Grief in for my smiter.  Once I do that I can run the ubers for torches.

I've been playing D2 using the plugY mod for all of this since mid April of this year.  I've finished 1 character for each class.  In about 6 months I've found a lot of good stuff.  Still no hellfire torch yet though, and, surprisingly, I am still missing a number of unique items that I thought I'd have by now (Skulders Ire for one).  Yes, Max is right that the Ubers in PlugY are easier than on battlenet because they don't spawn minions, but I still think it will be fun to do on single player.  I've done it lots of times on Battlenet in the past, but never on SP.  D2 is still fun after all these years.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 09, 2018, 04:01:53 PM
LOL, I haven't found a Skullder's either  :'( ;D . I've been using the GoMule program to track my progress on items (68% of uniques, 84% of set items in about 2 months of play), which has helped quite a bit when I would otherwise waste space on a unique I have 3-4 of already.  A lot of my more recent drops have had terrible rolls on them, like a +1 skills Eschuta's Temper with 10/12 skills damage (rolls 1-3 for skills and 10-20 for damage), +3/3/3 skills on Wolfhowl with 8/8/15 stats (rolls 3-6 on skills, 8-15 on stats), +15 to resists Saracen's Chance (rolls 15-25), etc. 
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on October 11, 2018, 08:32:35 AM
I got my first single player torch last night!  It rolled +3 to sorceress skills and +16/+11 on stats and resists.  I was pretty happy with it being a sorc torch.  I have enough keys to get 3 more torches, so I will probably do that and hope for a paladin one.

Comparing the whole process of farming keys, getting the organs, and killing the ubers between single player using PlugY and on battlenet, I would have to say that the single player experience is slightly easier.  They are identical except for the uber Tristram fight.  The ubers don't spawn minions in single player, I'm not sure why.  That makes the fight against them a little easier.  When I have done this in the past on battlenet, the minions were more of an annoyance than an actual threat, but their absence does make it easier.

Conversely, the easiest part of the process on battlenet for a smiter (fighting Duriel to get Baal's eye) was the hardest part in single player.  On battlenet, it seemed like Duriel always spawned right next to the portal into his zone.  This meant that you did not have to search the area for him and fight the mobs inhabiting the zone, which made this fight very quick and easy.  This is a big deal because the zone spawns physical immune locust swarms that are a real pain in the ass for a smiter.  In the single player version, Duriel doesn't spawn in the same spot, so you have to search the area for him and deal with all those stupid locusts.  I actually had to give up on my first attempt in this area since I died in a huge swarm of those things, and had no way to get my body back.  I eventually respec'd to add 1 point to both zeal and conviction and use a lightsaber on switch to kill them.  It was a slow process, but it worked.  I am going to try to come up with another plan to deal with the locusts that could speed up the run in this zone.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 11, 2018, 02:27:53 PM
Yeah, at least from what I've read online the Ubers will summon minions with pretty much all immunities (Diablo summoning Pit Lords that are immune to literally everything but physical, Baal summoning Specters and Dark Lords that are immune to physical, etc.), which is why it was intended to require a diverse group of players.  Dealing with the bosses alone is a lot more simple, though it still requires a very strong or specialized build.

I think the game is taunting me for not using PlugY, since I got 3 Lo runes from various places in a 24-hr period after never having seen one in 17 years.  There are only 2 runewords that I can make with them, neither of them that great (well, Doom is decent, but it also requires a Cham), whereas there are 8 ladder-only runewords that use Lo that are ridiculously powerful like Grief, Fortitude, and Pride.  Could cube 2 of them to a Sur, which I might do for a Bramble for my Necro, although I'd have to respec some of his skills towards Poison to make use of that function.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on October 11, 2018, 02:57:36 PM
There are only 2 runewords that I can make with them, neither of them that great (well, Doom is decent, but it also requires a Cham), whereas there are 8 ladder-only runewords that use Lo that are ridiculously powerful like Grief, Fortitude, and Pride.  Could cube 2 of them to a Sur, which I might do for a Bramble for my Necro, although I'd have to respec some of his skills towards Poison to make use of that function.

You can do all these in SP ..  for some of the most recent ones you needed a small file to enable, eg spirit.   don't let "ladder only" put you off.  Hell even the SPF allows all the runewords


GG Mn4nu!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: syn on October 11, 2018, 03:14:30 PM
since I got 3 Lo runes from various places in a 24-hr period after never having seen one in 17 years. 

!!!

RNG god has smiled upon you.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 11, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
You can do all these in SP ..  for some of the most recent ones you needed a small file to enable, eg spirit.   don't let "ladder only" put you off.  Hell even the SPF allows all the runewords

Although the most common methods would not work for me since I'm on a Mac (which requires version 1.14+ which is what added newer Mac OS support, most of the mods require 1.13 or lower), I probably wouldn't use them anyway.  I haven't needed the crutch, and I'm still surviving and finding items at a decent clip using the game "as is".
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 12, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
More finds this week: another Ethereal Reaper's Toll (my 2nd, 4th overall) 225%ED/12%LL, a Mav's Diadem, a Seraph's Hymn, a perfect Boneshade (+2/3/3/5/5 skills), a +2 bow/crossbow skill 20%IAS +14 Dex 3%LL set of gloves, 2x Jalal's Mane, 2x Alma Negra (both with +2 skills, although low +ED%), and a Kira's Guardian (+56 resists).
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on October 12, 2018, 04:01:55 PM
Nice finds!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on October 14, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
GG Maxbeedo.  I was thinking if this upcoming Diablo annoucement isn't rubbish maybe we move this thread into the current D3 forum and have a home of Diablo awesomeness to hype us up. 
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on October 16, 2018, 01:54:25 PM
I've been doing Countess, Summoner, and Nilithak runs for keys over the past few days.  I did 3 more uber runs and got a barbarian and 2 amazon torches.  I'm hoping I get a paladin torch next.  I also found another IK set armor while doing a random Pit run.  That's my 3rd one of those.  Still no Skulder's Ire, Arreats Face, or Homunculus, among other things.  That's RNG for you.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, I found some more noteworthy runes...1x Pul, 1x Um, 2x Mal, and 1x Sur.  That was my third Sur rune I've found in PlugY.  I used the other 2 to make a Ber.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 16, 2018, 02:27:21 PM
Nice finds!  Yeah, RNG is funny sometimes.  Haven't found either Titan's Revenge or Thunderstroke so I can't realistically make a good Javazon.  Still no Harlequin Crest, Skullder's Ire, Oculus, Stormshield, or Tal's Adjudication, so my Sorc gear is somewhat limited.  Oh, but out of the 18 unique amulets I've found, I now have THREE Seraph's Hymns.  I started doing Pindle runs the other night after having gone maybe a month since even thinking about them (mostly doing Baal/Meph/Tunnel runs with my Barb), and the FIRST run he drops Shadow Dancers, the SECOND run he drops Messerschmidt's Reaver (dropped another one about 60 runs later). 
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Sssith on October 16, 2018, 03:04:13 PM
Have the drops been improved.  I forget the rune hierarchy but I think my best was something like an Ist.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on October 16, 2018, 04:34:11 PM
More recent patches helped fine drop rates. Iíve even had ber drop. Back in old days I never even got um
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 16, 2018, 05:23:25 PM
Yeah, patch 1.13 back in 2010 boosted the rune drop rates by about 2.5x-4x, based on the drop calc numbers.  It's not a huge difference really, since that only brings down the odds of a random monster dropping a Ber rune for example from about 1 in 10 million to 1 in 4.4 millon (depending on the monster obviously), and a Zod went down from 1 in 60 million to 1 in 15 million.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: lemming on October 17, 2018, 04:57:21 AM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ocpnqdr73/runes.png)
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Sssith on October 17, 2018, 09:55:37 AM
That would make things more fun.  The runewords were a fun gimmick.

Looking at that list I think I had an Ist drop from the countess.  I know I had an Um drop.  The rest of my good runes came from give-aways.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on October 17, 2018, 02:05:32 PM
1.09 zod harder to drop than 1.07? Wow

I saw current ift in spf started on 07 zod
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on October 22, 2018, 10:59:37 AM
Just this morning doing some key runs I have found an Um, 2x Mal rune, and a Ber rune.  Countess dropped the Mals and ghosts in the arcane sanctuary dropped the Um and Ber.  I had the players setting on 5 too.  Crazy.

Yesterday I had a Gul rune drop when I popped an undefiled grave in the tower cellar lvl 3.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 26, 2018, 04:13:55 PM
Just had a pretty great GG Baal run with my Barb.  Baal himself dropped a Griffon's Eye (19/14, max is 20/15), and an Ethereal Harlequin Crest (my first... too bad about it being ethereal).  Before that, found my 3rd perfect 6-socket Superior Phase Blade (15% ED, +3AR), and a Tiara with +2 Druid Skills, 8% ML, 7% LL, All Resist +18, Fire Resist +19 (so 37 total), +9 minimum damage. 

Other recent drops: Grand Charm with +1 Necro Summoning Skills/+35 Life, a Gut Siphon, a 2nd Bul-Kathos's Tribal Guardian, a Nature's Peace, an Eaglehorn, a 2nd Kira's Guardian (+61 resists), and a 2nd Boneshade (this time 1 off from perfect, +2/3/3/5/4 skills).

Been trying to run NM Cows with my Necro to find the Cow set.  10 runs in, no luck on any of them, though of course it's also a decent area for lower uniques I might be missing.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on October 26, 2018, 05:12:34 PM
Gg max you could be going for a while at this rate!
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 29, 2018, 05:52:41 PM
Pindle was not dropping crap for 2-3 days, so I started running the Tunnels again with my Sorceress.  5 runs in, get a fairly high roll on a Death's Fathom (+27% Cold Damage, 35% Fire Res, 38% Light Res), and my first Stormshield.  My Sorc does use Blizzard as a backup spell, but she's primarily lightning, so I'm debating on if I should respec her or try to make a new dedicated Cold Sorc.  I think I have 4 Cold Skill Grand Charms, 1 for Fire, and none for Lightning so far, but Lightning is really good for certain areas, so I might keep her as she is using the Tal Rasha's set (now if I can only find the damn Amulet), and make a Cold Sorc using Death's Fathom, Stormshield, Snowclash, etc.

Started some secondary characters now that I have some decent gear.  Kept finding nice Assassin gear that focused more on melee (Tiara with +2 skills, 8%LL, 7%ML, Amulet with +1 skills, 7% LL, 6%ML, all resists +19, etc.), and I have Bartuc's and 2 different claws with +2 skills/40% IAS.  I started a Holy Fire Chargeadin named "Gemfinder", whose job will be to essentially run low level areas letting fire kill hordes to grab chipped gems for... whatever reason I guess (mostly cubing runes I think).
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Melchior on October 30, 2018, 12:00:53 AM
You guys.....are making me feel the D2 itch again.

Y'all playing 800x600 or what?
I really can't play without higher res and the high res mod stopped working with 1.13 IIRC(?)
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 30, 2018, 01:43:09 AM
I am running zero mods on 1.14b, so yes, 800x600.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Timinator on October 30, 2018, 02:56:08 AM
Melchy. I hear d2 remastered will be announced on Saturday morning our time. It will do 1024x768
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: Melchior on October 30, 2018, 08:23:25 PM
Excellent.

Will that accept my old D2 serial? I should think so
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 31, 2018, 12:25:29 PM
I suspect if they do a D2 Remastered it would be a "new" product you have to pay for, much like Starcraft Remastered, but they might make the original free for download like they did for SC.

My Barb has been switching armors frequently the last few days.  I had been wearing a Steel Carapace as he was my only character with the strength to use it, but then he finally hoarked a Skullder's Ire (my 1st), which he obviously put on immediately.  Just a few minutes ago though, a boss group in the WSK finally dropped the Immortal King's Soul Cage, completing his IK set.  The debate then becomes do I keep using Skullder's for the MF (his primary purpose), or use IKSC thus freeing up several charm slots that were being held by resistance charms.  The tiebreaker might be the somewhat annoying "Freezes Target +2" that the gloves get with the complete set, making him shatter 90+% of corpses preventing me from hoarking at all.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on October 31, 2018, 01:08:26 PM
Max, big congrats on finding the Griffon's Eye and the Death's Fathom, both super rare items.  I'd respec to cold on the sorc and give the griffon's to a javazon.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on October 31, 2018, 02:26:06 PM
I definitely plan on using the Griffon's on a Javazon, I even have a 5/5 Lightning Rainbow Facet ready to go in it, but I'm also missing Titan's Revenge or Thunderstroke to really make one effective.  I have a few Demon's Arches and a Wraith Flight but neither are quite as good as the Amazon javelins.  My only Amazon right now is a Bowazon, which I could respec but I have all her gear set up already for Bows, so I'm basically waiting until I find a Titan's before starting another Zon.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on November 05, 2018, 07:36:21 PM
Nothing too crazy with drops over the weekend, though I did complete several sets.  Was missing the M'avina's bow, the Trang-Oul's wing, the Sazabi sword, and Aldur's armor and all dropped over the course of 2 days, so I'm only missing 10 set items total now (3 Cow King set, Tancred's Boots, Bul-Kathos Sacred Charge, Natalya's Mark, Griswold's Valor and Honor, Sander's Paragon, and Tal's Ammy).  Down to missing 80 uniques as well.

Respec-ed my Elemental Druid to a Wind Druid, who is at the end of Normal.  It's fun watching the lvl 28 Hurricane demolish Players 5+ monsters before they can get to me without even needing to use the wind skills, but that'll change obviously in parts of NM, though I may run Normal Cows with him for a few days since he just has to run to kill things to see if he can find at least 1 part of the Cow set.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: mn4nu on November 06, 2018, 08:16:07 AM
Wind Druid destroys things in NM too.  Make spirit in a crystal sword and you won't regret it.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on November 06, 2018, 12:02:02 PM
Can't use ladder-only runewords in SP without mods, which I won't use.
Title: Re: So I fired up D2 again
Post by: maxbeedo on November 13, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
Grail-finding has certainly slowed down quite a bit now that I'm under 80 items to find.  Found a Head Hunter's Glory, 3x Arioc's Needle (all with +2 skills :( ), and a few stray exceptionals I was missing, but otherwise the drops haven't been good at all.  Did 30 Baal runs in a row on Players 3 where he dropped no unique or set items with ~400%MF.   I'm also randomly up to 42 rare Templar Coats without finding a Guardian Angel for whatever reason.