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Title: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on October 28, 2017, 11:27:59 AM
The next season of Diablo will be upon us soon! I'm undecided which class I want to play at this point. Barbarian is calling my name, as I loved the old HOTA/IK build. I am tempted by Demon Hunter, but I have a pretty decent one in non-season. I'm also really intrigued by the Necromancer again - the pestilence set intrigued me when they first came out, and now that is one of the top GR builds in the game.

I love having so many great options, though!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on October 28, 2017, 12:12:14 PM
I agree Ray.  Lots of viable and fun options.  Every class has a couple of good builds to go with.  Which class to play will be a tough decision.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on October 29, 2017, 03:12:21 PM
I'll give the necro a shot in SC to get the sets
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 10, 2017, 07:56:10 AM
How did everyone progress last night? I got on a couple hours after the start, but I had quite a bit of luck on my side to start the season. After getting the Challenge Rift reward, I gambled a Bracers of Destruction on my 4th attempt. I spent the rest of my shards hoping for a Band of Might, but didn't end up getting one. After getting to level 40, I crafted a two-handed mace with -21 level requirements on the very first try! I didn't have to re-roll it at all.

I ended up calling it a night at 1:30am, after hitting level 64 or 65 - I was too tired, and I don't remember. I got paired up with a pretty good group of guys who knew what they were doing, which made for a good first night. Can't wait to play tonight, and start getting my set pieces.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 10, 2017, 05:29:20 PM
Started a crusader name Ssscorn.  Re-learning how to play.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 11, 2017, 01:08:26 PM
I managed about an hour and a half of play yesterday. Spent the first hour grinding my rebirthed DH on Hard and by the time I came back online later in the evening one of my EU flatmates was P260 and boosted me to 70 and helped me with a GR30 for a BotP..

Now I just need to put in some time ticking off seasonal achievements to start getting my set pieces.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 12, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Well I think I am figuring out the Crusader.  Almost done with Act II.  Playing on Torment and I am getting by pretty well (maybe a bit squishy though I have not died once yet).  Already level 45 which seems ridiculous.  Is there even such a thing as Normal, Nightmare, Hell?  If so why?  I think I am one normal given it is my first play through.  But there doesn't seem to be a need for such things.

At this point I main playing with a build around holy damage.  Given that I have damage spikes of over 75k I assume I am doing something right.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 12, 2017, 02:53:33 PM
Woah!! SSith is playing again!

First off, almost no one ever plays the campaign anymore except the rare situation like yourself playing a character for the first time, and myself now with the necro before I killed him.   As you say, being 45 in act 2 is very different to the terrible grind of the previous 4 linear difficulty settings.  This happened over 3 years ago https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/12671560/patch-201-now-live-2-25-2014

before level 70 just do whatever you want, after level 70 all your current gear will be trashed anyway. 

Good to have you back!

hopefully you are playing in the season, if not, do that!  You get a FULL set for finishing the 4th chapter you see here.  https://d3resource.com/journey/

You can do it relatively simple solo, or much faster with help which will be there if you want it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 12, 2017, 03:04:45 PM
I am thinking on finishing the regular play through since I have not seen Act V or what ever it is called.

This character is in the Season.  So eventually I will start working on finishing the achievements.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Pixie on November 12, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
Last night I started a necromancer named Aeris. Also kind of re-learning how to play.

I don't expect to get far or accomplish much since I'm way too casual for season play, but whatever. I'll have fun with it while it lasts. :D

I am running through the campaign since I haven't done it with necro, plus I really have a hard time playing a game without some sort of structure to it. Just playing on hard for now, but I'll probably bump it up soon.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 12, 2017, 05:52:40 PM
SSsithy.  I enjoyed Act V the first time I saw it, some some different types of environments, the story got moved along (yes it has faults of course).  New monsters etc are always interesting to learn what is fodder and what will challenge you.  Enjoy the big boss at the end, its the toughest fight in the campaign.

GG on the achievements ;)  Solid plan.

I might see you both in game with my level 6 necro.  In the past I would play a few hours at the start of a season and rush to 70.  I can't be bothered going too nuts at the moment
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 13, 2017, 05:59:42 AM
I'm looking at the Season rewards and wondering....why play seasonal?

Only reason is for MP it seems, the rewards are lackluster...

edit: I should clarify...the cosmetic rewards are fairly good (angelic wings, portrait), but I want banners and pets :(
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 13, 2017, 09:09:38 AM
Is there even such a thing as Normal, Nightmare, Hell?

Nope, there is no more Normal, Nightmare, Hell, and Inferno difficulties.  There are difficulties you set at the start of a game session and that range from Normal, Hard, Expert, Master, and Torments (1 thru 13).  You can change these at anytime so you aren't locked into one.  Most of the good items only drop in torment difficulties, so if you can handle T1 or higher, stay there.  The game now is basically about getting to lvl 70, doing bouties, rifts, and greater rifts.  It is so much better than 5 yrs ago.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 13, 2017, 12:12:03 PM
I'm looking at the Season rewards and wondering....why play seasonal?

Only reason is for MP it seems, the rewards are lackluster...

edit: I should clarify...the cosmetic rewards are fairly good (angelic wings, portrait), but I want banners and pets :(

I do it mainly for the fresh start. The stash tab rewards were nice, but I've been capped out on those for a while now. I've been trying to play characters that I haven't played in a while, just to keep it fresh and different.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM
I play seasonal for the fresh start.  With billions in gold and thousands of crafting materials and gems, not to mention Paragon Points and Gems of Ease, it's too easy to start a character and be Level 70 in like half an hour.

I like the challenge of starting with nothing.  I like learning how to play the game again, or at least play that class again.  And when Legendaries drop that I otherwise wouldn't even look at twice, but which are the best thing I have for that slot, I check them out.  Some skill I never use now does an extra 400% damage or something?  Okay, I'll try it out.

Given the choice, I tend not to wander from the safe, comfortable stuff I'm familiar with.  So in a twisted kind of way, I like not having the choice, and I end up doing a bunch of stuff I wouldn't have otherwise done.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 13, 2017, 02:32:47 PM
I'm playing a hardcore wizard to start this season.  Going Vyr's for now, but not sure how long I'll stick with that.  Eventually I want to use a non-archon build, like a Tal Rasha channeling build or something using energy twister, the twisted sword, and ranslor's folly bracers.  I just need to round up all the gear first.  It's always fun at the start of the season with everything being new again.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 13, 2017, 03:37:06 PM
For me, one of the main reasons as well as the "Fresh start" which doesnt' last that long is getting a full set basically for free.  Especially as old gear is made redundant.

There are some who focus on non season.  But the bulk seems to be in season if you want to play with someone (you do).  99% of the time, playing with others is always a good thing
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 13, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
Damn you guys and your sound reasoning
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 13, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Back from your holidays now melch melch?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 13, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
playing an IK barb so far this season. currently trying to get over that feeling you get when you spend all your crafting mats trying to improve a mediocre piece of gear and then an ancient version drops on the very next rift. also had two of the same unique mace drop from a single chest yesterday. take that, Sssith. :P
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 13, 2017, 05:00:28 PM
I'm having some good RNG so far this season. I got a few hours of play in yesterday, and got from P80 to just over P300. By the time I was done I had found a couple decent ancient set pieces, two Furnaces (one Ancient), an ancient Gavel of Judgement, a Little Rogue, two Slanderers, a BK Warrior Blood and then crafted a BK Solemn Vow on my first attempt!

I'm running an IK6/R4 build to speed to rifts, but I can't wait to try out the Istvan HotA build!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Pixie on November 13, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Apparently the game really wants me to have two of every unique it gives me.

"Oh, Leoric's Crown. Neat."
"Huh. Another one. I guess Leoric mass produced these..."
"Goldwrap... And another Goldwrap..."
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 13, 2017, 05:30:36 PM
Back from your holidays now melch melch?

Yes Timmeh, decided to focus on my HC characters off-season though.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 14, 2017, 07:18:27 AM
At lower levels, there are only certain legendaries that drop.  Leoric's crown is one of them.  It is a good low level helm to use since putting a ruby in it will really help you level up.  I wore a lvl 18 version of it until I was in my 60s leveling up my seasonal character.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on November 14, 2017, 10:22:28 PM
Some changes I have noticed with this patch/season; 1) the smart drops seems to be a lower percentage than before, I get more
non class drops 2). there seems to be an increased number of goblins, almost one on every rift 3). new monsters with new powers
4). The new buffs seem to make your toon very powerful, very fast. no waiting for an ancient.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 16, 2017, 10:27:50 AM
Well I am in Act V.  So far I have only had one death and that was me being careless.  I finished Act IV at level 70 and Paragon 2.  I haven't used my paragon points yet.  I assume you can reassign them as you change your build around?

Any quick pointers as to what to do with the Mystic?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 16, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Yes, you can reassign paragon points at any time.

The Mystic is extremely important.  The most basic thing to do early on is to add a socket to a weapon.  You can reroll one property on any item though, so it's great for taking a not so great piece of gear and making it very good.  You need a forgotten soul and a deaths breath to change the property on a legendary or set item.  She also can transmog gear to look different if you like that kind of thing. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 16, 2017, 02:35:53 PM
I guess I could see transmogging a helm.  While some are good I hate the look of some of the helms.

Good to know about the socket.  I have vague memories of people wishing they could add a socket to a unique or kickass rare.  The changing of the attribute seems odd.  You get to choose which attribute you want to reroll?  So if you get a really good item with an important bad roll you can try to fix it?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 16, 2017, 02:47:06 PM
You get to choose which attribute you want to reroll?  So if you get a really good item with an important bad roll you can try to fix it?

yes and yes. you can re-roll an attribute as often as you want, but once you've selected one attribute to change you can't modify anything else. for most items, the amount of gold needed increases with each roll. for non-seasonal gear you probably have enough gold that this will never be an issue, but starting out in a new season it can be a limiting factor. a few items (jewelry) require gems rather than gold and that cost doesn't escalate, but otherwise it's all the same.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 16, 2017, 02:51:03 PM
How long does a season last?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 16, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
variable but generally around 3 months, i think?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 16, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
also, for really good ancient weapons, better to use ramaladni's gizmo (a semi-rare drop but not terribly rare by the time you're able to run high torment rifts) to add a socket and use the mystic to add something else- you can roll the socket off for something else in those cases, if the item dropped with a socket already.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 16, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
I started my season slowly soloing in Hard with a rebirthed DH, but was able.to get a boost to 70 then got carried through 4 or 5 T13 rifts for SO and gear last night also scoring the all important Dawn. Now I need to work out what difficty I can hardly solo to finish off CH3 and 4.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 16, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
The others have handled most of your questions.  Enjoy Act V, then go to Adventure mode.  Press Shift and J at some point to see the Seasonal Journey. I'm guessing you just need to do 5 bounties and a Rift to finish chapter 1 now.    You don't get a reward for chapter 1, but you'll be close to finishing chapter 2 when you'll get TWO pieces of an end game set.  Next 2 chapters are 2 more pieces each. 

Having 6 pieces of a set, even if the rest of your gear is average will give you a whole new world of power.  Did you/do you MP much?  I suggest get in a MP game and you'll get some quick paragons.  Getting up to paragon 200 won't take too long, this will let you max the first of your stats  Have you heard of the Icy-Veins site?  https://www.icy-veins.com/d3/crusader-builds  This will let you know what skills/gear to go for.   Until you have some gear, just get what is fun and works.  That site also tells you which mods to reroll with the Mystic.  Or I prefer the Supermatt app ;)

In terms of MP, DO IT!  you get rewarded with better everything for not being solo.  You won't be a burden being in a game, and you won't miss out on anything compared to our old D2 single player days.  You'll probably be invited into games before you ask anyway :P  You will do a normal rift (even if you aren't killing) and get a Greater Rift Token.  The stronger person might do a few of these, then its on to Greater Rifts (GRs).    the EXP and rewards are much better here. 


At some point, I'd suggest getting those other 2 level 60 characters and even if you craft some gear you might get upgrades.  Hit level 61 and all their existing stuff will be trashed quickly. Those legendaries they currently have, the newer versions have much better things on them. 

In some ways I envy you, you have a lot of potential fun in front of you!

Any quick pointers as to what to do with the Mystic?

Buy her a drink at least!! Don't let your wife find out you have a new NPC on the side.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 18, 2017, 02:17:28 PM
I've skipped running Nats set straight to Marauder (first non-Nat I completed) G45 down so o ward's and upwards.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 18, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
Well I finished the campaign.  So was that ending a nod to D4 or to the next expansion?

The game is so different than when I left.  I had over 300 hours on my Monk alone, lvl 60 P37.  I have around forty hours on my Crusader, lvl 70 P45 or so.  Just insane.  Overall I think this is a good thing, I don't really like the grind of normal, nightmare, and hell. 

At this point I am in chapter 3.  I just got my Kaine Cube (sp I am sure).  No clue what to do with it, I'm sure Zoltan has an idea or two.  I just did my first rift and got a stone for a greater rift.  Should I save those up?  Do people still farm hell fire rings?  What should I being aiming for at this point.  Right now I am mainly trying to complete Chapters in the Season.  When doing bounties and rifts do you recommend doing full clears?  Going as fast as possible?  Interesting that there are new areas that I have never seen in the campaign.

Once more into the fray.

edit: And yes I would MP with you fools.  Not that I really have a clue yet.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 19, 2017, 12:25:14 AM
The first three chapters were pretty easy.  The fourth doesn't look as easy.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 19, 2017, 01:18:52 AM
Next expansion? The expansion was 3.5 years ago.  We got the necro .. and one or 2 free bits.  There is almost no chance of more paid content to expand on D3.  This year had almost 0 coverage at Blizzcon.  Every other franchise is the new exciting thing.

Next step, join in some MP with whoever you see, tell them what you need in Chapter 3 .. they will help you tick stuff off the list! Onto more rewards. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 20, 2017, 07:20:45 AM
Well I finished the campaign.  So was that ending a nod to D4 or to the next expansion?

The game is so different than when I left.  I had over 300 hours on my Monk alone, lvl 60 P37.  I have around forty hours on my Crusader, lvl 70 P45 or so.  Just insane.  Overall I think this is a good thing, I don't really like the grind of normal, nightmare, and hell. 

At this point I am in chapter 3.  I just got my Kaine Cube (sp I am sure).  No clue what to do with it, I'm sure Zoltan has an idea or two.  I just did my first rift and got a stone for a greater rift.  Should I save those up?  Do people still farm hell fire rings?  What should I being aiming for at this point.  Right now I am mainly trying to complete Chapters in the Season.  When doing bounties and rifts do you recommend doing full clears?  Going as fast as possible?  Interesting that there are new areas that I have never seen in the campaign.

Once more into the fray.

edit: And yes I would MP with you fools.  Not that I really have a clue yet.

Congrats on finishing the campaign.  Now you can concentrate on Adventure Mode (Bounties, Rifts, Greater Rifts).  Also, donít forget to do the challenge rift on a weekly basis (below adventure mode on the game settings screen).  If you complete the challenge rift in time you will get a cache will crafting materials in it.  It is worthwhile to do every week.

Use the greater rift stones to run greater rifts and get legendary gems, then level those gems up.  Legendary gems are really powerful and can only be socketed into rings and amulets.  Most people donít do full clears when doing rifts or bounties.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on November 20, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Full clears if you're out to smell the flowers and enjoy some of the detail Blizz has packed into D3 and dial up the speed depending on how fast you want to progress.

There are several different ways to enjoy 'end game' D3 although you don't hear much about people's objectives like you did in D2. Some people concentrate on HC, others enjoy challenging higher Greater Rifts, working through different builds and character classes, collecting achievements and cosmetics or a combo platter of all of the above.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 20, 2017, 12:24:49 PM
That all sounds good.  Is there a set of the legendary stones that are considered to be optimal? 

I also had a weird drop of a spider (Charlotte I think) no clue what to do with it.  I did all the key wardens at T4.  That was pushing my character.  At this point I am unable to kill Urzeal (sp? Act V).

I figure I need to grid a bit to get my character more powerful.  Is there a way to target a set of Vampbraces?  I forget the name of them but they reduce the wrath cost of my of my hammers.

My other two goals to reduce the cooldown time of Akarat's Champion so I can have it up more often and to just up my dps.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on November 20, 2017, 12:50:36 PM
Full clears if you're out to smell the flowers and enjoy some of the detail Blizz has packed into D3 and dial up the speed depending on how fast you want to progress.

There are several different ways to enjoy 'end game' D3 although you don't hear much about people's objectives like you did in D2. Some people concentrate on HC, others enjoy challenging higher Greater Rifts, working through different builds and character classes, collecting achievements and cosmetics or a combo platter of all of the above.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 20, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
GG on the keywardens, you are right, at that point they are a bit of a challenge but as you found, you can get them. 

In terms of the Vambraces, you have 2 options to get set/legendary items outside of random drops or friends finding stuff and dropping it for you. 
1) Get a Rare version of the item, and there is a cube recipe to upgrade to legendary.  This is best for upgrading weapons due to good value for resources
2) You will be getting blood shards (another resource) spend those at an NPC called Kadala.  You gamble for an item type, you'll get either blue, yellow, green or gold!

Its just a matter of time and you'll get the gear you need to make your build nice and strong. Then you work on rerolling a thing, or finding stronger/ancient versions of your gear.

When you do have Best in Slot (BiS) gear, it doesn't mean you have the best, with the various types of attributes, let alone the rolls, you might have the best vambraces, but it had all the wrong mods.  Later you might get one with all the right ones and get a massive increase.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 20, 2017, 07:09:27 PM
I also had a weird drop of a spider (Charlotte I think) no clue what to do with it.

Charlotte is a pet.  They drop from Menagerist Goblins.  You right-click to add them to your collection, then you can pick one to follow you around and pick up gold for you.  In the bottom right-hand corner of your screen is an icon that looks like a hand mirror.  That accesses your Collection, which is your Pets, Wings, and other stuff that doesn't affect gameplay.  You can also click the Wardrobe near Myriam's place in town.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 20, 2017, 07:29:54 PM
to follow you around and pick up gold for you.

This is awesome and means you can focus on the killing and picking up big things
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 20, 2017, 11:25:13 PM
Sweet!

I have a little spider that picks up gold.  Nice.  Are they really efficient at it?

One task left for Chapter 4. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 20, 2017, 11:36:04 PM
They're pretty good at it.  They won't venture too far from you, but sometimes they surprise me by running ahead of me or off to the side, and farther than I would have thought they'd go.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on November 21, 2017, 08:11:22 AM
Sweet!

I have a little spider that picks up gold.  Nice.  Are they really efficient at it?

One task left for Chapter 4.

The two skull pets are the quickest that I have used for gold pick up.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 21, 2017, 08:54:37 AM
I figured that they all follow the same "gold-gathering" method, and the only difference is which pet you choose, for purely cosmetic reasons.  If they indeed have different speeds and efficiency levels, then this will require further research.  Time to play some D3.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 21, 2017, 09:41:29 AM
I basically got to the point of lvl70 P90 while being able to face tank everything.  I've being playing T4 and the big bosses now regularly plant me in the ground.

At some point I will probably need help from one of you to finish the last task of Chapter 4.  I figure at that point I will be able to complete the set and see if that gives me a corresponding boost.  The only negative of the set is that it kinda forces me to use Falling Sword which I don't love.  I guess I will figure it out.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 21, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Yeah, the sets are definitely meant to set you up with specific build.  Usually there's one or two skills that go completely nuts in terms of damage, or a big killer with a huge cooldown gets its cooldown chopped so you can use it a lot more, or something.  But if you don't use (or don't like) the skills that the set boosts, it doesn't do much for you.  It's by design, to try to get people to try builds that they might not otherwise play.  I'm doing a Barbarian this time, just because I haven't played one in a while, and at this point I have the set given to me plus two more already, so I'm trying them all out, just for grins.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 21, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
Sweet!

I have a little spider that picks up gold.  Nice.  Are they really efficient at it?

One task left for Chapter 4.

The two skull pets are the quickest that I have used for gold pick up.

huh. i'm surprised there's a difference. assumed pet choice was cosmetic only.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 21, 2017, 03:44:05 PM
Good progress Sssithy!! What is your last task for chapter 4?  Having the 6 piece set bonus instead of 4 is normally a big increase.    Keep in mind there are normally 4 full sets, and there is normally at least one crap one.  So play your strong one until you start getting other crusader sets!  They will take a bit, but not too long and you'll have all 4 sets available.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 21, 2017, 07:15:44 PM
So the one that I am having trouble completing at this point is Urzael on T4.  At this point I don't make much of a dent on him.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on November 22, 2017, 07:29:24 AM
So the one that I am having trouble completing at this point is Urzael on T4.  At this point I don't make much of a dent on him.

Just ask and any of us can help you through him.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 22, 2017, 10:39:52 AM
Thanks!

So last night I hooked up with Obert's barb for about an hour.  Man was that eye opening.  Needless to say I finished chapter 4 without any difficulty.  He also took me down a Goblin hole, yes I forget what that was called.  Holy crap.  I went from 11 million to 34 million gold in five minutes.  In that hour I also leveled up 20 paragon levels.  Maybe at some point my crusader will be able to kill that fast.  Now I need to play around with equipment and get used to a new build.  With the completed set I should start using falling sword, so I need to figure out how to optimize that.  The easiest way is to get rid of Smite.  That means that I need to figure out how to improve my Wrath use, regeneration.  Also fun is the fact that I had some Hammer Jammers drop. 

(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/mc-hammer-02-435.jpg)

I imagine those are good for Hammerdins.  So I either need to extract the hammer skill via Kanai's cube or swap out the pants piece of the set.  I have the kanai skill that I can have one less set item and still have a complete set but I might be better off with the set pants and the Hammer Jammer skill in Kanai.  Like I said, a lot to optimize.

Question: With the infernal machine what should I be aiming for?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 22, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
Infernal machine, look for a friend who can take you in there!  Some of them ask for T1, the next chapter two of them are T10.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 22, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
Sssith, that was fun!  I'm glad I got to be the one to help out for a change.  I tried not to steal all the kills.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 24, 2017, 02:25:34 PM
Sssith, that was fun!  I'm glad I got to be the one to help out for a change.  I tried not to steal all the kills.

I noticed you let me kill stuff from time to time.  Already finished the Slayer Chapter and I am now leveling towards handling T10.  T7 was pretty straight forward after your help.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 25, 2017, 10:18:16 AM
It doesn't matter how many levels above the current game I am, those purple beams scare the hell out of me.  Any time I see Arcane Enchanted, I just kill them all as fast as I can.  Same with Molten usually.  Then a couple of times I remembered "Oh shit, I should really let Sssith do some killing since it's his game".
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 25, 2017, 11:34:17 AM
It doesn't matter how many levels above the current game I am, those purple beams scare the hell out of me.  Any time I see Arcane Enchanted, I just kill them all as fast as I can.  Same with Molten usually.  Then a couple of times I remembered "Oh shit, I should really let Sssith do some killing since it's his game".

lol

Well I am trying to get to be able to solo T10.  I can handle T9 but barely.

With the build that I am doing the goal is to keep Akhan's Champion always active.  As of yet I have not been able to even come close to that goal.

To master the set dungeon I have to cast Falling Sword three times in 15 seconds.  It has a ten second cool down.  o_O
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 25, 2017, 01:34:45 PM
There are items which reduce cooldown times by xx%, and probably some special item (or perhaps the set itself) that cuts the cooldown time way down.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 25, 2017, 03:59:59 PM
So I figured out the set dungeon.  There is an item that makes it possible.

Still digging around to figure how to get enough % cool down.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on November 26, 2017, 07:33:30 AM
So I figured out the set dungeon.  There is an item that makes it possible.

Still digging around to figure how to get enough % cool down.

A Vigilante Belt would add up to 8% CDR in a slot that otherwise can't have any.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 26, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
That is really good to know.  Honestly I think I need to have a different set to make it happen.  I am guessing Akkhan set given the name.  edit: I need 55% cooldown.  I am at 20 or so I think.

I also realize that I have a rare ring that I think, back in the day, would have been super special.  High crit chance/crit damage (https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sssith-1821/hero/95610180). Can't get a socket on it for a legendary gem.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 26, 2017, 12:44:56 PM
I got another playing session in with Obert.  While my character is no slouch I am way behind his.  Being able to sustain WW is pretty impressive.

In one greater rift I went up 10 levels.

At this point I am able to handle T10 for the most part.  And I have completed everything in the chapter except one, the leveling of gems to 45.  Obert helped me get the rift under 6 minutes at T10.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 26, 2017, 05:25:09 PM
gg Sssithy!  You'll be up to P400 not too far from now .  I see that rare ring does have double crit, but you can do better, you want a ring with a socket and cool mods.  Maybe start gambling for rings.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 26, 2017, 05:54:21 PM
use the rare->unique cube conversion recipe. you'll get something better pretty quickly.

edit: that being said, that is pretty good for a yellow ring. but there are so many special traits available on unique jewelry that it's hard to justify any rare ring. strongly rec re-rolling the damage for a socket, if you keep that thing.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 26, 2017, 07:31:43 PM
I assume that if I cube that ring that it will most likely become crap?

I have just about completed the Akkhan Set and with the Kanai trick I can equip it and get the full benefit.

I will probably try a different build to see how it plays.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 26, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
Sssith, go to the jeweller, he can just craft you a L70 yellow ring(s) to upgrade.

Make sure to read up on Akkhan builds.  The difference from having the 6 piece set bonus, and having best in slot everywhere is amazing.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on November 27, 2017, 08:14:20 AM
I got another playing session in with Obert.  While my character is no slouch I am way behind his.  Being able to sustain WW is pretty impressive.

In one greater rift I went up 10 levels.

The key to the Whirlwind thing is the set of blades Bul-Kathos's Solemn Vow and Bul-Kathos's Warrior's Blood.  If you're wielding both, it increases Fury generation by 15.  Whirlwind only costs 10, so it's "free" and you can actually gain Fury while whirling.  You also gain 45% attack speed and movement speed (I think I said 35% last night) so it's faster to just whirl everywhere, and you even top off your Fury while you're doing it.

I'd seen the set before, but never tried it, but since he's running the Wrath of the Wastes set, I had to at least check it out.  The full set bonus adds 3000% damage (no typo, that's 3000 percent) to Whirlwind.  So basically I Whirlwind everywhere and just wipe out everything.  Fun stuff.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 27, 2017, 11:04:06 AM
I did a GR 81 with my hardcore tals channeling wizard.  I did it in about 10 minutes, so I could probably go a little higher with my current gear.  That's the highest GR I've ever completed and it's with only a little over 600 paragon lvls and no Caldesan cube augment to any gear.  Lots of power creep in this patch.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 27, 2017, 11:18:46 AM
So I figured out that giving my follwer a unity when they have a can't die mod is a way to get 50% DR.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on November 27, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I did a GR 81 with my hardcore tals channeling wizard.  I did it in about 10 minutes, so I could probably go a little higher with my current gear.  That's the highest GR I've ever completed and it's with only a little over 600 paragon lvls and no Caldesan cube augment to any gear.  Lots of power creep in this patch.

congrats! in a similar place w/ my barb, agree about the creep.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 27, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
So I figured out that giving my follwer a unity when they have a can't die mod is a way to get 50% DR.
Yep, just make sure that you are also wearing a unity, or have it enabled in the jewelry slot in your cube.

congrats! in a similar place w/ my barb, agree about the creep.
Congrats to you as well!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 27, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Well, I completed a GR92 with my IK Barb the other day. I was doing well, staying well ahead of the timer for a while but caught a couple bad levels and died a handful of times which let the timer catch up to my progress. I am now starting to work on leveling gems to augment, because I'm probably capped at at a GR94 or 95. My goal is to hit a GR100 this season, so I should be able to with a few more upgrades and a bunch of augments. I do need an ancient Ancient's Fury shoulders and Bracers of the First Men still, as well.

I'm definitely enjoying the barb this season though!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 27, 2017, 07:41:38 PM
I'm not sure I can imagine getting to 100.  I'm a bit below 50 and that is tough as is.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on November 27, 2017, 08:12:16 PM
Congrats Ray!  You are getting into Cluck and Bob territory!  ;)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on November 27, 2017, 09:21:00 PM
Well done Ray! I've seen that Barb in action and it's a powerhouse.

I took a couple of swings at a 92 with my Impale DH. I missed the first time by 3 seconds and the 2nd time by 3 minutes. Everything was very hurty.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on November 28, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Don't blame me....
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 28, 2017, 07:57:18 PM
GG all.

I've been going along rather slowly - still sub-P400 and only on Ch5 I think.

Still, the Conquests are easy this season so not too stressed.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on November 28, 2017, 09:14:44 PM
Sooo say someone decided that need more stash space and don't have max tabs yet...

Which build is fastest/easiest to get the stash tab reward this season?

Would be softcore but with pretty limited MP time.

Also when does the season end?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 28, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Sooo say someone decided that need more stash space and don't have max tabs yet...

Which build is fastest/easiest to get the stash tab reward this season?

Would be softcore but with pretty limited MP time.

Also when does the season end?

The season only started a few weeks ago, so you have at least 8 weeks left I would say.

IMO the Conquests are pretty easy this season, so with the power creep in this patch you should manage with ease. SC is always less risky than HC... and you can enjoy more MP play - you're also probably more likely to find someone online to boost you early in the season too.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 29, 2017, 09:54:14 AM
Yeah...it seems ridiculously easy to get up to speed.  I started about two, or three, weeks ago and I have a Crusader with over 300 paragon levels.  I have two more chapters to complete and it is certainly getting tougher to do.  I really want to complete the next chapter as I get one more tab.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on November 29, 2017, 10:19:07 AM
Melch - I would suggest a barbarian. The gift set is IK, and a HotA Barb is very strong and easy to gear. The bracers can be gambled at level 1 and then cubed, and the Gavel of Judgement is 1 of only 5 or 6 two handed Mighty Weapons that can be rolled via the rare upgrade in the cube. GR70 is probably possible with no ancients and some pretty common gear.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on November 29, 2017, 12:38:26 PM
If Barb isn't to your liking, I would suggest that DH is powerful and versatile also and very capable of of completing the requirements for the stash tab.

Try to MP early to get to 70 and your set gifts as quickly as possible. That's the slowest part of the season to do solo.

If you're having trouble with any achievements, ask for help. Most folks are always ready to lend a hand.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on November 29, 2017, 02:36:38 PM
SSSith, you can always do the optional chapter 9, i've never bothered to do it for its silly cosmetic reward.   Maybe rebirth one of those low level other characters.  You can choose to either play them solo, get a boost to 70, craft gear to twink them.  Put in a jewel of ease so they can weild a level 70 item at level 1!  Lots of opportunities. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on November 29, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
Well I joined Ray and Cluck and it was pretty loltastic.  Especially when they took me on a T75 Rift.  My job was not dying.  I died twice.  And this is on a character were I have two free deaths before the real one hits.  We also did a couple puzzle rings?  I basically tripled my gold.

What do people do with all the uniques that they don't use?  My stash is full.  Do I pretty much get rid of anything that is not Ancient or super duper Ancient (I forget the term for these...Cluck or Ray found one of them on this run).

I am not use to have this many uniques or greens.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on November 30, 2017, 07:07:56 AM
Well I joined Ray and Cluck and it was pretty loltastic.  Especially when they took me on a T75 Rift.  My job was not dying.  I died twice.  And this is on a character were I have two free deaths before the real one hits.  We also did a couple puzzle rings?  I basically tripled my gold.

What do people do with all the uniques that they don't use?  My stash is full.  Do I pretty much get rid of anything that is not Ancient or super duper Ancient (I forget the term for these...Cluck or Ray found one of them on this run).

I am not use to have this many uniques or greens.

Some of them will go into the cube powers to have at your disposal.  Some legendaries are instant salvages.
Set pieces can be worth holding onto for sure (especially ancient/primal ones).  Most people hold onto pieces
for builds they enjoy running, in particular.  Keep in mind that completing Conqueror nets you a new stash tab
in each season.  The Necro pack gives two tabs and two extra character slots in addition to access to playing
the Necromancer.  Storing items can also be done in characters you are not actively using.  Eventually, though,
we all find that we must pare down some of what we have by salvaging unneeded or unwanted items at the
blacksmith.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on November 30, 2017, 08:58:52 AM
The Monk Sunwuko Wave of Light Build is pretty fun and fairly powerful.I did a 70 grift with all non-ancient gear
and level 25-30 gems. Its also moves super fast to gather DB's. This is my fourth level 70 grift toon in season 12,
so the buffs are working well.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on November 30, 2017, 08:25:33 PM
I got on a bit last night and just ran public rifts for materials and keys. Along the way I managed to gamble the two pieces of the UE set that I was missing so switched to EU build which is substantially more mobile than the Marauder.  I expect that will speed up my season...

The Monk Sunwuko Wave of Light Build is pretty fun and fairly powerful.I did a 70 grift with all non-ancient gear
and level 25-30 gems. Its also moves super fast to gather DB's. This is my fourth level 70 grift toon in season 12,
so the buffs are working well.

Good work!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 01, 2017, 12:21:32 PM
Well I joined Ray and Cluck and it was pretty loltastic.  Especially when they took me on a T75 Rift.  My job was not dying.  I died twice.  And this is on a character were I have two free deaths before the real one hits.  We also did a couple puzzle rings?  I basically tripled my gold.

What do people do with all the uniques that they don't use?  My stash is full.  Do I pretty much get rid of anything that is not Ancient or super duper Ancient (I forget the term for these...Cluck or Ray found one of them on this run).

I am not use to have this many uniques or greens.

MP is a fun way to get established quickly. Glad you had a fun time.

To add to what Bob said, a large number of legendarys are useless. I know this because my stash is full of items I'll likely never use...Having said that however, how you gear in D3 has changed a lot since release. In the beginning you had to grind like crazy to find gear. Then Blizz released the 'auction house' and it was a good way to get the items you needed but a lot of idiots - like me - spent more time on the auction house than actually playing the game. Blizz recognized this and ended the auction house. Now, I think it's fairly common knowledge that crafting items is the quickest way to get the basic items for a build.

The Horadric cube has several helpful recipes. One is 'upgrade a rare of any type to a legendary'. Very helpful and relatively cheap. You only need death breaths, arcane dust, veiled crystals and the white mat. So keep picking up stuff and salvaging at the blacksmith and these are accumulated fairly quickly. You can also change a set piece into another piece of the same set and you can change all attributes on a legendary by rerolling it in the cube.

You can also change a single attribute on any item by visiting Myriam. You can use a ton of forgotten souls here to get the exact attribute you want.

So crafting mats are really quite valuable these days. They can really move your game along and help you try out different builds in reasonable amounts of time.

Rule of thumb on what to keep: if it's not a set and not ancient, put it in the cube. If you already have one in the cube, salvage it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on December 01, 2017, 04:56:18 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. I did end up going with Barb, about level 22 now :)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 01, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
MP is a fun way to get established quickly. Glad you had a fun time.

To add to what Bob said, a large number of legendarys are useless. I know this because my stash is full of items I'll likely never use...Having said that however, how you gear in D3 has changed a lot since release. In the beginning you had to grind like crazy to find gear. Then Blizz released the 'auction house' and it was a good way to get the items you needed but a lot of idiots - like me - spent more time on the auction house than actually playing the game. Blizz recognized this and ended the auction house. Now, I think it's fairly common knowledge that crafting items is the quickest way to get the basic items for a build.

The Horadric cube has several helpful recipes. One is 'upgrade a rare of any type to a legendary'. Very helpful and relatively cheap. You only need death breaths, arcane dust, veiled crystals and the white mat. So keep picking up stuff and salvaging at the blacksmith and these are accumulated fairly quickly. You can also change a set piece into another piece of the same set and you can change all attributes on a legendary by rerolling it in the cube.

You can also change a single attribute on any item by visiting Myriam. You can use a ton of forgotten souls here to get the exact attribute you want.

So crafting mats are really quite valuable these days. They can really move your game along and help you try out different builds in reasonable amounts of time.

Rule of thumb on what to keep: if it's not a set and not ancient, put it in the cube. If you already have one in the cube, salvage it.

Good info...someone should sticky that shit.

I finished my switch over to Akkhan set.  Holy crap is it a smoother ride.  Just did a T60 solo, so I will be moving up to T13 now.  At this point I assume that it becomes more of a grind to improve on the gear?

For the record I am running a blessed shield build.  Pretty fun.  Much easier to manage than Hammers.

So I guess I have to complete some challenges.  Any pointers there?

Oh and I got a consumable drop that adds a socket to a weapon.  I am hopping that it adds a sockets instead of swapping on attribute for a socket?  In which case I should wait to use on some end game piece?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on December 01, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
MP is a fun way to get established quickly. Glad you had a fun time.

To add to what Bob said, a large number of legendarys are useless. I know this because my stash is full of items I'll likely never use...Having said that however, how you gear in D3 has changed a lot since release. In the beginning you had to grind like crazy to find gear. Then Blizz released the 'auction house' and it was a good way to get the items you needed but a lot of idiots - like me - spent more time on the auction house than actually playing the game. Blizz recognized this and ended the auction house. Now, I think it's fairly common knowledge that crafting items is the quickest way to get the basic items for a build.

The Horadric cube has several helpful recipes. One is 'upgrade a rare of any type to a legendary'. Very helpful and relatively cheap. You only need death breaths, arcane dust, veiled crystals and the white mat. So keep picking up stuff and salvaging at the blacksmith and these are accumulated fairly quickly. You can also change a set piece into another piece of the same set and you can change all attributes on a legendary by rerolling it in the cube.

You can also change a single attribute on any item by visiting Myriam. You can use a ton of forgotten souls here to get the exact attribute you want.

So crafting mats are really quite valuable these days. They can really move your game along and help you try out different builds in reasonable amounts of time.

Rule of thumb on what to keep: if it's not a set and not ancient, put it in the cube. If you already have one in the cube, salvage it.

Good info...someone should sticky that shit.

I finished my switch over to Akkhan set.  Holy crap is it a smoother ride.  Just did a T60 solo, so I will be moving up to T13 now.  At this point I assume that it becomes more of a grind to improve on the gear?

For the record I am running a blessed shield build.  Pretty fun.  Much easier to manage than Hammers.

So I guess I have to complete some challenges.  Any pointers there?

Oh and I got a consumable drop that adds a socket to a weapon.  I am hopping that it adds a sockets instead of swapping on attribute for a socket?  In which case I should wait to use on some end game piece?

Yes, it adds a socket and leaves your attributes alone (up to 1 socket per weapon is a maximum).
Use your Ramaladni's gift on a decent ancient for the build you want to run.  For set dungeons/challenges
youtube has plenty of videos.  For conquests, try 3 gems to rank 65 and get a DH to run you through the Cursed
Peat event in Act 5 to complete what you need for the Conqueror events and the tab.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on December 01, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
  For conquests, try 3 gems to rank 65 and get a DH to run you through the Cursed
Peat event in Act 5 to complete what you need for the Conqueror events and the tab.

the no-set item GR45 is reasonably easy this season as well, if you hate looking for the cursed peat as much as i do.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 01, 2017, 08:43:12 PM
Good info, thanks.  8)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on December 01, 2017, 11:43:28 PM
Thanks Orbert for boosting me about 40 levels! Nearly lvl70 now :)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 02, 2017, 12:47:21 AM
You're welcome.  Mrs. Orbert was a bit annoyed, since it was originally her game and I kinda crashed it.  I was surprised when you joined.  I didn't realize you could, since she's not in the clan.  Probably because I was in it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on December 02, 2017, 01:38:40 PM
Ah power-creep. Having managed a GR60 the other night dying only once and finishing in 5 minutes I thought I'd have a crack at GR70. Did a bit of hear tweaking and 7 minutes and 2 deaths later i had finished GR70 with my P400, no- Ancient weapon and still missing BiS gear DH... only set dungeon mastery remaining on Ch6.

In the beginning you had to grind like crazy to find gear. Then Blizz released the 'auction house' and it was a good way to get the items you needed but a lot of idiots - like me - spent more time on the auction house than actually playing the game. Blizz recognized this and ended the auction house. Now, I think it's fairly common knowledge that crafting items is the quickest way to get the basic items for a build.

That was through no fault of your own. Blizz got itemisation completely wrong early on the the extent that you could play for hours for no reward and even big name gear you found would have useless mods and be unusable. And sadly the most efficient way to get gear was to buy it in the AH. I also went through long periods where I would load the game only to spend all my time buying and flipping gear in the AH and not killing a single monster.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 02, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
Well I just completed GR70 Solo.  So I am pretty happy about that (even though I died once). I have also maxed out my cool down, I can keep Akarat's Champion always up.  At this point I am leveling gems pretty much.


Now that I have done a GR70 does that unlock Prime items?  Or is there something else I need to do?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on December 02, 2017, 06:39:40 PM
Well I just completed GR70 Solo.  So I am pretty happy about that (even though I died once). I have also maxed out my cool down, I can keep Akarat's Champion always up.  At this point I am leveling gems pretty much.

congrats!

Now that I have done a GR70 does that unlock Prime items?  Or is there something else I need to do?

it'll probably be a while till one drops, but you've done all you need to do.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 02, 2017, 08:45:19 PM
Wow, I didn't realize that.  I have some Demon Hunters who can run in their 60's, so 70 is probably doable.  I haven't played them since the last patch.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 02, 2017, 09:59:58 PM
Now this is just silly.  Apparently I managed a 70 at some point, because this just dropped:

(https://imgur.com/iJaItXK.jpg)

I've always liked that cloak, and wolves of course are the coolest of the DH pets, but if I'm gonna use my RRoG, there are always better choices.  Which is a shame, because this is a nice cloak.

I just had to laugh because it dropped in the first rift on my quest for 70, and it took a second to register because it completely caught me off guard.

My first Primal Ancient!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on December 03, 2017, 04:23:11 AM
Gg Orbert!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 03, 2017, 11:16:14 AM
I have completed all of chapter 8 minus killing archane queen and the two challenges.  I might have to pull someone in to help me with the queen as my boss killing is slow.  The blessed shield build shines in packs.  Not so much against a single boss.  Doing it under thirty seconds is proving to be tough.

I have also started a Barb, leveled up to 17 in about 30 minutes of play.  Not much left to do on the Crusader.  I mastered my second set dungeon.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 03, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
Happy to help when I'm on! If I see you, I'll pop in.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 07, 2017, 05:25:18 PM
Well I changed one of my skills to a more hurty one vs single monster and I was able to kill her in thirty.

I officially finished Conquerer with my Crusader.  Not sure there is much point to doing the Guardian.

At this point I thought I would level up my Barb to redo the different season chapters.  But that is not to be, once done the chapter is done for all characters.  I had my barb up to level 43 but I am not enjoying the rushing.  I feel like I don't really know the character and the skills this way.

Maybe I will switch to a HC character.  I have never done well in HC but maybe it would be more interesting.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on December 07, 2017, 05:46:58 PM
gg Ssithy!  You've done very well. 

You could do another character next season, but it could be some months away, or just take your time and learn things
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 08, 2017, 01:17:22 PM
So I am playing a HC Wizard.  Which should be interesting because I suck at HC.  I made it to level 20 and Skelly king is dead.  I am currently playing Expert but that might be pushing it.

I imagine that I should drop down to normal for some of the big bosses.

Any HC advice is welcome. :)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on December 08, 2017, 05:11:35 PM
So I am playing a HC Wizard.  Which should be interesting because I suck at HC.  I made it to level 20 and Skelly king is dead.  I am currently playing Expert but that might be pushing it.

I imagine that I should drop down to normal for some of the big bosses.

Any HC advice is welcome. :)

don't die ololol

Socket for life/res rather than dmg. I usually use the Esoteric gem for safety. Scale difficulty accordingly.
Always use the death-escaping passive of your class.

Rarely do you want to be on the 'edge' of your damage or survivablility, as a lag spike could be fatal. And dont forgot that pause only works in Single player, not multi (yeah I died doing that, forgot i was in MP as no one was in game with me).

Best advice: slow and steady. HC is way more of a grind for me.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 08, 2017, 07:45:04 PM
I enjoy HC.

Always err on the side of life. Feel like the situation is getting tough? Back off. A second pack moves in? Back off. Connection becomes sketchy? Pack it in and live to fight another day. Things can go from good to bad really quickly. Focus on toughness.

I like the health potion that allows you to walk through walls.

My hardcore motto: Run away!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 08, 2017, 10:47:19 PM
Well I am half way through Act II.  Level 42 or so.  Starting to get a sense of a Wizard.  Still going at Expert level.  Not too bad yet.  No real close calls.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 10, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Well I am up to level 65 and into Act V.  My build is surprisingly tanky.  I guess I could raise the difficulty but I think I will leave it on Expert until I finish Act V.  When I fought Diablo my health bar didn't really even move.  A pack of champions, with arcane and other good mods, does hurt.

Right I use Archon as a tool to go even more OP.  Though it seems as if people build up Archon stacks in the hundreds.  Not sure how that works yet as it runs out very quickly.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 10, 2017, 11:07:00 PM
Closing in on the end of the campaign.  In the pandemonium fortress at level 69.73.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 11, 2017, 08:35:43 PM
My build is surprisingly tanky.  I guess I could raise the difficulty but I think I will leave it on Expert until I finish Act V.

You don't know the number of times I thought just that. You never know when the perfect storm of damage and control impairing effects might come together.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on December 11, 2017, 08:46:46 PM
maltheal has the potential to hit disproportionately hard at any given difficultly level, imo. i'd be cautious about raising the difficulty until he's dead.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on December 12, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
maltheal has the potential to hit disproportionately hard at any given difficultly level, imo. i'd be cautious about raising the difficulty until he's dead.
Agreed.  Fight that muthafuka on Normal.  You can push it later on when you are geared properly.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 12, 2017, 09:57:30 AM
maltheal has the potential to hit disproportionately hard at any given difficultly level, imo. i'd be cautious about raising the difficulty until he's dead.
Agreed.  Fight that muthafuka on Normal.  You can push it later on when you are geared properly.

Will do.  No need to risk dying at this point.  On a business trip, so I won't be able to finish of the campaign until Friday I think.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on December 13, 2017, 04:24:13 PM
Malthael is a prick. I tend to skip the act 5 bounty in HC if he is part of it.

And, I too am fond of the burst through walls potion, really helps in a jam.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 14, 2017, 10:47:45 AM
Well I just dinged 70 with my HC Wiz.  I took people's advice and downgraded to normal and treated Malthael as my personal bitch.  He actually managed to ding me up a bit so probably a good thing to be careful with him.

So now onto Adventure Mode.  Any HC advice that is specific to that?  Do I dump all my points into Vit?  My experience on the defensive tab is that I should maximize resists first, then percent life, and then armor.  Not sure if that should be a different order for a Wiz.

Time to find me some gear. :)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on December 14, 2017, 12:53:59 PM
I split my paragons between Main Stat and Vit for hardcore, but I'm not sure how much the Vit really helps.  Toughness to me is more about % damage reduction obtained from gear, not Vit.  You can always try it both ways and change it if you don't like it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 14, 2017, 03:28:11 PM
Congrats! It's not simple to get a HC character to 70! Remember that main stat also gives you toughness :)

Int increases resists, but if you're ranged, I'd probably do resist all first or perhaps a combination.

So your next big goal is to work through the Torment levels and hopefully, get geared to run T13 without too much concern. Make sure to collect a back up set of gear, because at some point, you'll probably need it.

Pushing GRs becomes the real HC killer. You inevitably want to do 1 more level. 

Man has to know his limitations.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 17, 2017, 02:06:42 PM
My hard core Wiz is up to T61.  Moving a bit slowly and carefully.  Trying to gear up which is slow at this point (super fast compared to three years ago).  I got the first piece of Firebird Finery.  That has a cheat death bonus which seems really nice.  So I am working on getting that.  No clue if the set as a whole is worth it.  Might be fun to try and get all the pieces.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Supermatt on December 18, 2017, 05:10:26 AM
I'm nearing the end of my EU season - only the speed kill on Queen of Aranae and Augment left to do.

Then over to US for the first 4 chapters...
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on December 19, 2017, 02:13:38 PM
My hard core Wiz is up to T61.  Moving a bit slowly and carefully.  Trying to gear up which is slow at this point (super fast compared to three years ago).  I got the first piece of Firebird Finery.  That has a cheat death bonus which seems really nice.  So I am working on getting that.  No clue if the set as a whole is worth it.  Might be fun to try and get all the pieces.
The most common build using that set is pretty squishy.  However, you could do something with it different from a high GR pushing build that could be fun.  I did a GR in the mid 80s with a Tal Rasha channeling wizard that is tanky compared to the Firebird version.  Some people use just 2 pieces of the Firebird set in a build to get the cheat death bonus it provides.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 19, 2017, 03:51:11 PM
Squishy is not so good.  I just go two of the pieces so I am pretty happy about that.  Need to see if there is a way to get another set mostly complete that is complementary.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: dave in the basement on December 21, 2017, 10:50:12 AM
My HC necro is cruising through T7 at almost hilarious speeds, but she's also quite delicate. She is probably not long for this world.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 21, 2017, 11:38:25 AM
So my HC Wiz is up to P80 or so.  I am cruising at T2.  A bit squishy.  To be honest I am not loving the Wiz.

With the sale that is going on I grabbed the Necro pack.  I now started a HC Seasonal Necro in Europe.  I am playing Expert and I have had a couple of close calls as I am not killing fast enough.  Hopefully I catch up with this before something plants me in the ground.  Now that I am in Europe do we have a clan there?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 21, 2017, 12:15:37 PM
I don't think so.  I play on the Europe server sometimes, though I haven't recently because I got pissed off at it.  I had a Lady Necro doing pretty well there (finished Chapter Four, had the complete set, was working on collecting stuff and generally building the character) and when she got back from a Rift, she visited Orek, the Rift closed, and I figured all was cool.  I had to go to the bathroom, then right after that my wife asked me to help her with something.  I figured if I timed out and got disconnected, no biggie, since the game auto-saves every so often, and I've never had an issue with it before.

When I came back, sure enough I'd timed out, but when I re-connected and tried to start the character back up, I got some kind of error saying that the saved version was out of sync with the server or some shit.  I closed Diablo III and tried again, same error.  I completely closed out of the Blizzard app and tried again, same error.  So apparently it hadn't auto-saved, or maybe it didn't register the Rift properly or something.  One thing was for sure, it was not going to let me play this character anymore, so I deleted the character.  Now I don't feel like starting another Seasonal character because the new one won't get the free set.

So anyway, no, I don't think so.   :P
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 21, 2017, 12:57:17 PM
Wow...that sounds pretty shitty. 

Well ... let it be known that I am on Europe.  My Necro is going to kick everyone's ass.  Until she dies.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 21, 2017, 04:41:41 PM
Oh yeah, Hardcore.  I think if I start a Hardcore character, they get the set, since it's a separate database or whatever.

What's your battletag?  I'm Orbert#1313
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 21, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
There are a few forum members that have accounts on Europe including me. I use it mainly for my son since he likes starting characters and getting them to 70 but then loses interest.

I don't use it for HC because I think it's likely more prone to disconnects and spikes.

I never thought of opening a GO on Europe since we don't play much MP as it on the Americas.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 21, 2017, 05:03:39 PM
Sssith#1821.  Is my battle tag the same in the EU?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 21, 2017, 09:11:10 PM
I think that's how it works.  Mine's the same on EU and Americas.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 22, 2017, 10:07:30 AM
Yep.
US -- https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sssith-1821/hero/95610180
EU -- https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sssith-1821/hero/102911288

I know you people have my profile bookmarked so you can follow my amazing journey.  I wouldn't want to deny you that joy that is my European Vacation.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on December 22, 2017, 10:03:24 PM
Just had a "Griswold's Scribblings" drop? WTF?? I thought that stuff disappeared about 5 patches' ago.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on December 23, 2017, 03:56:39 PM
European Vacation
Griswold

Hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 24, 2017, 01:30:23 PM
Well the European Vacation continues to be a success.  I have hit P10 and I am about to go in a kill Malthael, I hope,  I have had a couple close calls.  I have noticed with my Necro that she will be shit stomping everything and I will get to a new area and I will be back to a struggle.  I have also noticed that I have been using a lot of two handed weapons.  Not sure what that is about but that has resulted in the most damage and survivability so far.  I guess it just comes down to the luck of the drop.  Right now I am enjoying my build but I notice that it is not a very popular build.  I am using Corpse Explosion and it seems nobody really uses that in end game.  Maybe it is just for leveling.

Onward and upward.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 24, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
Raised my difficulty to Master.  Did my first Nef Riff.  I proceed to get tripled teamed right out of the gate.  I managed to survive but it was close.  The combination of all the effects was nearly over whelming.  The rest of the rift I got doubled teamed three more times.  It was full of WTF.

I feel good for having survived.  Just the bounties to complete chapter 1.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 25, 2017, 07:39:39 PM
Well I have finished chapter three.  I now have some grinding to do in order to get myself up to GR20 and T4 stuff.  I remember T4 Urzael being really hard.  I am P40 at this point.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 26, 2017, 09:19:11 AM
I always consider that I'll need to be about P600 to be strong enough and have collected enough stuff to complete a season.

I would recommend doing the weekly challenge rift as the crafting mats received are really important in season.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 27, 2017, 03:40:08 PM
I started a Hardcore Seasonal Barb on Europe so Sssithy and I could multi, but we never seem to get our shit together.  Meanwhile Bruno the Barb made it to 70 and has some Paragon points now.  Since I've already used Haedrig's Gifts, he's gotta do it all himself in terms of equipment, too.  I thought that maybe because he's Hardcore, that the whole Season Journey stuff would be separate, but it's not.  Haedrig has made him some cheapo Set stuff from recipes to get him going.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on December 28, 2017, 05:47:20 PM
Working toward stash tab still.
I have done the GRs with six sets and the GR45 with no sets. Working on 3 gems at lvl55 now.

edit: I have the stash tab :)
Didn't realise I had so little left to do. Just needed one more gem upped 4 levels; to kill Aranae in 30 seconds; and reforge a legendary, which I apparently hadn't done yet :P

Probably won't do Guardian, reward looks lke a portrait fame and nothing else :( Hardest part would be gems to 70 though, as I have gotten half the others already.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on December 30, 2017, 11:49:41 AM
Lost 2 hardcore characters, one of them my wizard in a GR85. However, a nicely leveled gem of ease and lots of paragon levels makes for easy character replacement. Replacing the gear is the hard part. Started playing with the Jade Harvester for the first time ever and it is surprisingly fun. I don't think it will make a great hardcore build, but I will have a good time finding that out.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on December 30, 2017, 09:22:54 PM
Sorry Obert.  I am away right now.  Hopefully soon we can get together and kill hell's minions.  I think I am around P70.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on December 30, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Not a problem.  I actually think it's kinda funny, in a twisted sort of way.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on December 31, 2017, 03:38:17 PM
Lost 2 hardcore characters, one of them my wizard in a GR85. However, a nicely leveled gem of ease and lots of paragon levels makes for easy character replacement. Replacing the gear is the hard part. Started playing with the Jade Harvester for the first time ever and it is surprisingly fun. I don't think it will make a great hardcore build, but I will have a good time finding that out.

Sorry to hear mn4nu. GR 85 has to be pretty scary in HC.

Edit: congrats Melch!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 01, 2018, 04:28:32 PM
GR85...very impressive that you got that far.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 02, 2018, 08:35:03 PM
Public thanks to Mn4nu for the HC power level, even though I managed to get myself killed
by a worm mid way through the leveling. :-)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 02, 2018, 09:09:17 PM
You are welcome Hurtlocker!

Anyone try the new challenge rift for this week (crusader shield bash)?  This might be the worst one ever.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 03, 2018, 08:31:52 AM
I tried it, but it was so squishy I couldn't stay alive longer than 30 seconds. Some of those challenge builds are so obscure
that unless you have direct experience with the build its almost impossible to master. On the positive side the loot you get
is invaluable to a new build in season.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 03, 2018, 09:43:02 AM
I have yet to do a weekly challenge.  Maybe not this week I guess.

Turns out I am a dirty liar.  I was actually P50 not P70.  I leveled it a bit last night and I am up P58 or so.

Anyone doing the darkening of Tristram?  I found two pages (4 & 6).  Not exactly clear how I make this work but I am going to try and do this.  I imagine you people did before as this is the second time through.  Seems like a fun thing.  Is this something that I should avoid doing with my HC Necro?

At this point I have not really settled on a HC Necro build.  Not really happy with Corpse Explosion, but any time I do something different my killing speed slows down.  The Revives don't seem to cut it.  Lance seems to be geared for only a single target.  Devour doesn't seem to help with killing speed, more of a survival tactic.  Simulacrum has a two minute cool down.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on January 03, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Anyone try the new challenge rift for this week (crusader shield bash)?  This might be the worst one ever.

won't argue with that. definitely the worst of the few i've tried. spent less than a minute in this one and decided it wasn't worth it.

re the darkening of tristram: i think collecting the pages get you a portrait reward but they are not needed to enter the portal, which i don't think shows up until tomorrow. i don't think it's a particular risk for a HC necro. others can probably offer better necro advice than i can. most of the sets struck me as reasonably powerful, if not overly so; they buffed a couple other classes to make them comparable to the necro, iirc. also a lot of options for LoN builds, assuming you can gear enough ancient items.

Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on January 03, 2018, 03:48:03 PM
The D1 event.  I finished it all last year, it was fun, but I won't be going back again.  A high powered character could blast through things, see the content, get achievements. 

There is a special achievement (and fun) if you start a brand new level 1 character and go and do the event and kill diablo.   Try that if you have a character slot.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 03, 2018, 08:49:33 PM
So after about 8 or 10 tries I finally did the challenge rift.  The key is to get and keep up the 5 stacks for the Roland set bonus.  That gives you damage reduction.  Then pony to elites and big packs of normal monsters, bash a few times, shield glare them, and repeat.  What a horrible build.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 04, 2018, 09:56:25 AM
So I started a new hard core monk to do this.  I went to Old Tristram and before I got to the portal I had to kill a monster, and that popped me to level 2.  I wonder if I will get the achievement dealing with killing Diablo with a new character?

I got down to level 9 or so, before I had to stop.  Will the portal still be open when I return to the game?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on January 04, 2018, 01:20:12 PM
So I started a new hard core monk to do this.  I went to Old Tristram and before I got to the portal I had to kill a monster, and that popped me to level 2.  I wonder if I will get the achievement dealing with killing Diablo with a new character?

I got down to level 9 or so, before I had to stop.  Will the portal still be open when I return to the game?

I believe you need to do it from level 1 in a single game pass through to get the achievement.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 04, 2018, 01:46:31 PM
Weeellll shiiiit.

I need to verify that.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on January 04, 2018, 02:00:06 PM
its not too hard/long whatever it is. As you said, you already hit level 9 or 16, some of them aren't too big.  Just focus on finding the way down and not doing a full clear.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on January 05, 2018, 09:36:40 AM
So I got the mushroom, made the potion, got the note, did all that stuff in town (half remembering and half just clicking randomly on the dead townsfolk), got Wirt's Leg, and even went to the Abandoned Farmstead or whatever it is.  Lots of cows, but that's it.  Then I looked and saw that I have the Royal Calf already (Seasonal Characters can use your non-Seasonal Pets) so apparently whatever was supposed to happen didn't happen I guess.  Disappointing.

But overall, I still have to commend Blizzard on doing this, even if they didn't change anything this time around.  Obviously a fair amount of effort went into it, and I think I actually enjoyed it more this time.  Last time, I found it a bit hokey how they'd obviously used D3 tilesets to "approximate" the D1 sets.  This time, I found it interesting how well they'd actually done it and how much thought they'd put into it.  The Butcher scared the hell out of me, just as he did 20 years ago.  Halls of the Blind is still creepy and spooky.

Is there a bug in the Blood Stone set piece?  I found three of the red stone balls and placing each one on the altar opened a door, but there's still one door that's locked by some "unknown mechanism", but the map looks like I've done everything.  I can't find any more red balls, it looks like you could fit more onto the altar, and there's the one door that won't open (though you can just go around the other way).  What's up with that?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 05, 2018, 10:10:32 AM
The Butcher scared the hell out of me, just as he did 20 years ago.
The Butcher from D1 is probably the hardest thing for a fresh character to kill in the history of the Diablo franchise.  The dude was nearly impossible unless you trapped him on a stairway to the level below.  So many deaths to that guy back in the day. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 05, 2018, 11:41:14 AM

Is there a bug in the Blood Stone set piece?  I found three of the red stone balls and placing each one on the altar opened a door, but there's still one door that's locked by some "unknown mechanism", but the map looks like I've done everything.  I can't find any more red balls, it looks like you could fit more onto the altar, and there's the one door that won't open (though you can just go around the other way).  What's up with that?

That sounds similar to me, except that I discovered I could get around the locked door and get into that room from the other direction, so it didn't matter that the door didn't open.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on January 05, 2018, 01:07:01 PM
Oh yeah, you can go around the other way, but why is one of the doors "permanently locked"?  It doesn't seem different from any of the other special doors.  It just seems like there was supposed to be something else there.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 07, 2018, 11:55:23 PM
I mostly finished the Darkening of Tristram event on my main account.  It was fun enough.  I tried with two HC characters.  Both died before I did it softy.

My Euro Trash Necro just dinged P90.  I think I have settled on a build.  https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sssith-1821/hero/102911288  Not sure what set to go for, though I will soon, I hope, have Trangs.  I am doing P3 pretty safely if a bit slowly.  Just finished getting some better gear so I am hoping that becomes a little faster.  Closing in on Chapter 4 stuff.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 08, 2018, 03:37:48 PM
WTF?? Completed a level 57 grift with my HC Monk, got the credit for completing the grift and there was loot
on the ground and BAM I'm also dead??? How is that possible? It even said I killed the Grift guardian but then it killed
me?? Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on January 08, 2018, 04:29:17 PM
sorry HL. :(

aren't there a few RGs that can summon things that may survive after the RG is dead? stonesinger, for example. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on January 08, 2018, 04:29:40 PM
Some of the Rift Guardians have "minions" (or whatever you call them) which stick around after you kill the Guardian.  The rock dude has those little weird circle things that can cause damage, the Skeleton King summons skeletons, etc.  I've killed Rift Guardians and then had to kill those other things before I could talk to Urshi because they kept hitting me and closing the gem window.

Not to make light of your issue (R.I.P.) but I've kinda wondered if those things could actually kill you after you kill the RG.  I think this might be the answer.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 08, 2018, 07:06:29 PM
Sorry to hear Hurt. I have been killed by an RG after the RG death but it was SC and happened several seasons ago. I thought they had gotten it straightened out, but I guess not.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 08, 2018, 07:29:26 PM
Wow...that blows.  Sorry HL.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 08, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
The rift guardian was Vesalius, I'm not sure if that guy has minions or not? I have been one shot killed
in SC by that guy in the past, seems that balls of fire thing he does is pretty powerful. By the way, that guy
wasn't even in same screen, I hit and he hit me from a distance. The worst part is I just got an ancient
fist weapon, the one that gives you the extra sweeping wind stacks. How these guys do a 100+ grift in
HC is just astounding to me.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 09, 2018, 07:21:27 AM
RIP Hurtlocker.  That really is a crappy way to go.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 09, 2018, 10:44:44 AM
Most of those guys that do the 100+ GRs do a lot of things we aren't interested in doing to get there.

Nonetheless, it remains a solid achievement for those that don't use 3rd party programs or run an insane number of hours.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 10, 2018, 10:44:02 AM
Well I was getting tired of making slow progress so I pushed forward to see if I could finish Chapter 4 for my HC Necro.  Guessed what happened?

I made it. :P 

I know...you thought I died.  I came a bit close.  I am definitely punching above my weight class at this point.  The last achievement was doing the GR20 one.  My rift runs are all between 12-15 minutes.  I once finished the rift with under 30 seconds left.  A couple close calls but I never triggered the Final Service proc so I must be doing something right.

 
So I have the full Trag-Oul set.  Yeahies?!  The idea of doing a blood based build in HC just seems wrong.  My killing speed right now is abysmal (I actually fairly ok when I am just inundated with monsters).  So I need to change something up.  I guess I might as well go crazy and do a blood build.  Ultimately if anyone has advice on doing a blood build or how to boost my current build I would love to hear it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Melchior on January 12, 2018, 06:37:27 PM
So I have the full Trag-Oul set.  Yeahies?!  The idea of doing a blood based build in HC just seems wrong.  My killing speed right now is abysmal (I actually fairly ok when I am just inundated with monsters).  So I need to change something up.  I guess I might as well go crazy and do a blood build.  Ultimately if anyone has advice on doing a blood build or how to boost my current build I would love to hear it.
Had the same thoughts about that set with my HC necro. Not quite completed so haven't tried it.  I think it's a matter of learning how to play the build properly. because I was (am) awful at necro, but getting the hang of it, so the class is getting easier to play in general. Doesn't seem as intuitive as the other classes IMO. I find the sets...weird, except Rathma which suits my style, I read it was overpowered, but eh looks the most fun.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 12, 2018, 10:05:48 PM
Well I have been working on a blood nova build.  Pretty fun, but yes it is also a bit nerve wracking.  There are been a couple times where I spam it a bit too quickly.

At this point I am about P137.  T6 I think.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 14, 2018, 12:47:05 PM
I completed the Rathma set, and even the Jesseth set.  So I thought the game was telling me to switch back to a Pets based build.  I did that and almost promptly died.  I haven't analysed what is messed up with my set up but at this point my nova/lance build is way more capable.  I am now up to P160 and I can handle T6 comfortably if a bit slow.  Unsurprisingly I am needing upgrades to my rings and ammy. 
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 15, 2018, 11:51:26 AM
I am moving forward with Blood Nova and Trag-Oul.  I am now on T7 and P202.  Nice to cross the 200 mark.  I am slowly gearing myself up.  I just got the Gizzard legendary gem up to 25 ranks.  Should be interesting to see how much that helps.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 15, 2018, 07:28:37 PM
Good progress Geoff!

I finished the season journey today.  The last conquest I did for the 3 you need for guardian was kill all the bosses in under 20 minutes on torment 10.  It's pretty simple to do solo with any witch doctor build using the Manajuma's set.  Also, I did a GR80 with my hardcore jade harvester doc today!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 16, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
Well done mn4nu! 80 GR in HC is a real accomplishment!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 16, 2018, 11:06:13 PM
Impressive GR80 hard core.  I have fifty levels to catch up.  Not going to happen.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on January 17, 2018, 06:49:00 AM
Well done, mn4nu.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 17, 2018, 03:20:18 PM
Congrats Mn4nu!! Got another HC monk killed, by a disconnect this time. Really takes the fun out
of playing HC to be killed by something out of your control. I used to salvage stuff in HC if I already
has the piece but now I compile a complete extra set of gear as a backup.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 18, 2018, 09:16:18 AM
Thanks everyone.  I think Salem/Syn still is the one and only hardcore stud around here, with an impressively high GR (at least 85) with his barb this season.  That is certainly tough to do.

Sorry to hear about your monk Hurtlocker.  That really stinks.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 20, 2018, 05:37:15 PM
So I had a super productive day of D3.  I basically build the Staff of Herding for my european HC Necro.  I got really lucky with the gibbering gemstone as I got it on my second run.   I read stories of rage quitting after nothing coming up.  Maybe it has gotten easier to get?  Now that I have and I can go into Whimseyshire what I am looking to do there?  I did a run and nothing interesting happening.  I got to Whismeydale with my Crusader and I got a ton of good drops.  Nothing this time.

My HC Necro is now p300 and I am on T8.  Running it pretty well right now.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 20, 2018, 05:59:43 PM
Immortal monster?? I just got chased around a rift by a normal monster that wouldn't die.
It was capable of doing damage to me (this was HC) but no amount of damage would kill it.
There was no name above the monster, but it was one of those ranged attack dudes that
shoot a purple sphere. Has this happened to anyone else?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 20, 2018, 06:44:15 PM
lol...that sounds terrifying on HC.

That is a nope for me.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 20, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
My day of sublime D3 achievement continues.  I figured out how the cow and puzzle ring work.  Did them both with my Crusader on T13.  I crossed the 1 billion mark in gold.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on January 21, 2018, 12:13:11 PM
Immortal monster?? I just got chased around a rift by a normal monster that wouldn't die.
It was capable of doing damage to me (this was HC) but no amount of damage would kill it.
There was no name above the monster, but it was one of those ranged attack dudes that
shoot a purple sphere. Has this happened to anyone else?

It used to happen once in a while.  I haven't had it happen for a while, but it sounds like it can still happen.

Since you can't Town Portal or use the Waypoint Map to get away from it (you get hit, which interrupts the process), I can think of only two options:

1 - There's some bracers or shoulders or something that prevent your Town Portal from being interrupted.  Obviously this only helps if you happen to have them on or with you.

2 - Find an entrance/exit to or from the area you're in.  If you can pass through a doorway or portal to another area or level or whatever, it can't follow you.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on January 21, 2018, 02:40:21 PM
this has happened to me but not in a long time. i don't think getting hit stops waypoint use; otoh, anxiety-inducing to pull up the map when you're getting hit by anything in HC, and WPs are irrelevant in rifts...

edit: got gr86 this morning after a scare with some dervishes. can probably improve substantially with some build adjustment and a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 22, 2018, 12:33:22 PM
edit: got gr86 this morning after a scare with some dervishes. can probably improve substantially with some build adjustment and a bit of luck.
Very impressive!  I was able to knock out a GR85 with my jade doc over the weekend and broke into the top 300 on the season leaderboards. That's the highest GR I've ever done in hardcore.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 22, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Wow! Congrats mn4nu and Syn. 85 and 86 HC is pretty daunting.

The siren song of higher GRs can be memorising. Good luck chasing!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on January 24, 2018, 09:29:46 PM
got a 90 tonight. feel like i could probably get a few levels more. we shall see!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on January 25, 2018, 08:17:21 AM
The siren song of higher GRs can be memorising.

Which is very tough, because the layouts change every level. Memorizing them all takes quite a while.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 25, 2018, 09:16:28 AM
got a 90 tonight. feel like i could probably get a few levels more. we shall see!

Wow, congratulations!  A 90 in hardcore is a HUGE accomplishment!!!!   8)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 25, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
The siren song of higher GRs can be memorising.

Which is very tough, because the layouts change every level. Memorizing them all takes quite a while.

LOL, thank you speel check!

Congrats Syn, level 90!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 27, 2018, 06:46:04 AM
Season 12 is almost over.

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Season 12 will end on the following dates:

North America: Sunday, February 11 @ 5:00 p.m. PST
Europe: Sunday, February 11 @ 5:00 p.m. CET
Asia: Sunday, February 11 @ 5:00 p.m. KST

Season 13 will begin about two weeks afterward on the dates below:

North America: Friday, February 23 @ 5:00 p.m. PST
Europe: Friday, February 23 @ 5:00 p.m. CET
Asia: Friday, February 23 @ 5:00 p.m. KST
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 28, 2018, 03:40:06 PM
My Monk did a 91 grift, the highest I've ever done. That doesn't even get you into the top 1000 these days.  :)
It's fun to finally have gems in the mid 80's. The best part is my gear is far from great, so there is plenty of room to
improve!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on January 29, 2018, 09:17:40 AM
Congrats on the 91 Hurtlocker!!!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on January 29, 2018, 09:21:19 AM
Congratulations, Hurty.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on January 30, 2018, 09:49:58 PM
Nicely done HL!

Haven't had the time to play lately.  Not sure how much further I will get.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on January 31, 2018, 08:37:04 AM
Well, I finally got my gems to level 80 for augmenting and decided to push towards my goal of GR100. I had done a GR94 without augments on my HOTA Barb, so I figured it would be close. Sure enough, I finished the GR100! It took a few times to fish for a good Rift, but I did it in under 14 minutes - good enough for Rank 840-something on the leaderboard. It's my first time getting on a leaderboard, so that's fun!

Now I'll probably get back to my non-season Demon Hunter and maybe get a character to play higher level GRs with.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on January 31, 2018, 12:32:41 PM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on January 31, 2018, 12:55:18 PM
Congrats Ray!!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: SideSBob on January 31, 2018, 12:55:52 PM
Congratulations, Ray!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Cluck Kent on January 31, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
Grats Ray! Great accomplishment!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on February 01, 2018, 10:21:59 AM
Congrats Ray!!!  Awesome!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 03, 2018, 04:07:20 PM
Nice Ray!

Fired up my Necro again.  I have made it to T10, though it is a bit rough.  I might be pushing it to far.  Around P330 and GR 45 (might not be exact numbers).  I'll see if I can complete one more chapter before the end of the season.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on February 06, 2018, 12:48:26 PM
Ran a GR 70 with my WhirlyBarb last night, finally.  Most of his equipment isn't Ancient yet, so I'm thinking he could probably go a bit higher once I get a few upgrades in place.

The other night in Asia, my Lady Necromancer was running Bounties and generally minding her own business, and a green arch and portal suddenly appeared and said she was worthy to enter.  She'd just completed the Trag'Ouls set (via Haedrig's Gifts) so this was a nice surprise.  I hadn't even planned on running the set dungeon, hadn't bothered with the clue or anything, but I gave it a shot and completed it on the second try.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on February 06, 2018, 01:03:09 PM
Congrats Orbert!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on February 06, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 06, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
Well my Necro bit the dust.  I was having issues with Blood Rush for a bunch of runs.  It was like there was lag or it wouldn't trigger.  I should have quit at that point but didn't.  I killed a bunch of monsters that then exploded.  I tried blood rush out of it and I couldn't next thing I know my deeds will be remembered.  I didn't even see the Final Service trigger.

A bit bummed.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on February 06, 2018, 05:11:21 PM
Condolences.

I've had (softcore) Necros die a few times and I never saw Final Service either.  I thought maybe if it happens too fast, it doesn't trigger, but that would be a bug, presumably a known one.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on February 06, 2018, 07:01:57 PM
RIP Sssith.  I hate when you die due to some weird stuff happening, like lag.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 07, 2018, 10:56:17 AM
Condolences.

I've had (softcore) Necros die a few times and I never saw Final Service either.  I thought maybe if it happens too fast, it doesn't trigger, but that would be a bug, presumably a known one.

If this is accurate it kind of really sucks.  That not working as expected is a big deal.  Until that point I had seen Final Service trigger once.  Ah well, I was having fun with that character.

edit:  a quick google show that you and I are not the only ones who feel that Final Service is not working correctly.  Be careful HC Necros!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on February 07, 2018, 12:57:43 PM
condolences. had a similar thing happen to me last season. assumed it was lag...
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Ray Patean on February 09, 2018, 08:33:12 AM
I've lost all motivation to play the last few days, so the end of this season can't come soon enough. I'm not looking forward to the gear clean up/clear out after the season - I need more stash tabs!
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on February 09, 2018, 09:01:41 AM
I've lost all motivation to play the last few days, so the end of this season can't come soon enough. I'm not looking forward to the gear clean up/clear out after the season - I need more stash tabs!
This describes me as well.  I haven't played for over a week, except to do the challenge rift.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on February 11, 2018, 05:34:05 PM
got a couple gr93s with my barb. failed a couple 94s by 3-5 minutes. triggered nerves once or twice in those. that's probably gonna be it for the season. got a head start salvaging stuff in the stash. gonna be a pain making space/deciding what else to keep...
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Timinator on February 11, 2018, 05:38:14 PM
I've lost all motivation to play the last few days, so the end of this season can't come soon enough. I'm not looking forward to the gear clean up/clear out after the season - I need more stash tabs!
This describes me as well.  I haven't played for over a week, except to do the challenge rift.

I'm similar.  Matt bought me the Necro, (thanks buddy!).  I had a HC die, that was annoying, I got up to around chapter 5 and the first grind .. and motivation was a bit low.  I did the SC run of the campaign for achievements.  I have a few others I can get but haven't really got that spark.

I do need to get the necro sets.  Perhaps once the season ends and the gear mixes I can easily gear the necro. 

Other games  have been taking gaming time.

Btw, never tried a challenge rift yet, are they fun?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 11, 2018, 06:10:40 PM
I tried one challenge rift.  I found it to be full of WTF.  It reminded me of a McTar WTF Build.  Nonsensical gear and build choices.  I guess each has a 'right way' to play it but I did not find it fun.  Maybe I just need to get into the whole spirit of the adventure.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: hurtlocker on February 11, 2018, 06:32:01 PM
I agree with Sssith, the challenge rift are mostly irritating. The rewards are nice, but if I die within 30 seconds I just give up.
The real benefit of these challenge rifts is using the rewards in a new season.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 11, 2018, 07:18:06 PM
So my seasonal Cursader had 604 paragon levels.  My Monk had 222.

Now that the season is over my monk has 612 paragon levels.  So basically those 222 levels is the equivalent of 8 paragon levels once you are in the 600 range.

lol...I had visions of being close to 700 levels.  LOLtastic.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 11, 2018, 07:38:52 PM
Any advice for what to do with duplicate legendary gems?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on February 11, 2018, 08:48:32 PM
Level 'em up and use Caldesann's Despair.  Caldesann's Despair is a cube recipe that lets you add Vit or any mainstat to Ancient Legendary and Set items.  Next level of the grind is running higher and higher Grifts to level up the Legendary gems.  The higher the level of the gem, the more stat gets added to the item.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on February 11, 2018, 08:51:33 PM
In other news, Luther (Barbarian Reborn) ran a GR 72, which is an all-time Seasonal high for me.  Insanely fun WhirlyBarb.  I doubt I'm gonna beat that for a while.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 11, 2018, 10:17:54 PM
Nicely done.  And keep them...got it.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Sssith on February 13, 2018, 05:58:00 PM
Welp...I got my first Primal.  Krelm's Buff Bracers.  Yeah?

Still nice to see one.  What to do with it?  I assume give it to Griswold.  Is there another use?
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Orbert on February 13, 2018, 06:14:57 PM
Bummer.

Seriously though, there are a lot of items which are pretty useful in season or if you don't have anything else.  But if you've been playing long enough to start getting Primals, you almost certainly have something better in your Stash.  I use Krelm's Buff Belt on a lot of characters, though, so it's possible that the Set Bonus plus the cranked-up stats might be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on February 13, 2018, 08:52:25 PM
Salvage it for the 15 souls.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: syn on February 14, 2018, 08:14:38 AM
i know it's dumb but i haven't been able to bring myself to salvage the non-useful primals i've found (2 primal gladiator gauntlets?!? awesome). there might be *some* situation where that item becomes useful... and 15 souls is not much more than what you generally get from a rift run, maybe 2 if you're unlucky. not much better than just selling them for gold.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: mn4nu on February 14, 2018, 09:47:14 AM
I don't have a problem salvaging non-useful primals.  I have a problem salvaging other things that might be useful if I wanted to run a certain spec.  Take, for instance, a Blade of the Tribes barb weapon.  For some reason I think I'm going to run a leapquake barb sometime and decide to keep it. when I should just salvage it.  Or what about an ancient Starmetal Kukri?  Back in the day that was a bad-ass weapon, but not so much now.  Almost all witch doctor builds run with a Sacred Harvester, so I should probably salvage the Kukri.  Same for an ancient Dagger of Darts.  Tough choices to make.

I logged in last night to do the challenge rift and look at all the seasonal stuff in the mail.  I started going through it and getting rid of things, but there is so much stuff and not enough stash space.  We need access to some more stash tabs with 7 different types of characters.
Title: Re: Season 12
Post by: Reigns on February 14, 2018, 10:49:19 AM
I haven't played.  I keep trying, but every time I turn on my computer I wind up playing Civ 4
 ::)